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  • #13,061
  • Nov 22, 2014 2:27pm Nov 22, 2014 2:27pm
Quoting FXMasterSK
{quote} Yeah I'm sure little returns when working with big capital is huge. And risk must be very small as well. I actually am reading Chan's book and it is really a good read, however looks like I need to learn some coding basics. I have heard that Python is a fairly easy language to get started with so I am definitely looking into that. In the future I will most likely be learning C and C++ as well. The future will definitely be technology based so learning programming could definitely help a lot. It's just stuff I do in my free time when I'm...
agree. programming knowledge is never unused even when you are not doing programming. it helps one to think analytically and logically.

i work at big financial company so it is well diversified. of the groups doing systematic trading, they are also in pretty much all asset classes. my team is in FX and futures. as a trader you are always learning new way to make money - and FX trading on personal level is a good diversifier as well though i cant do short term trading in personal account as per policies.

Good luck in your education. if you get good in that and want to move into professional side then you can eiither go to masters (financial engineering) and try for big places or start with smaller prop shops which are tough places but successful traders can do well there as well.
Think : Trade : Live Life
  • #13,062
  • Nov 22, 2014 3:06pm Nov 22, 2014 3:06pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} {quote} The thing I don't like about you personally, infinite, is that you provoke people with your careless words and then either block them as a senior member or threaten to block them. You also seem to be quite convinced that you know more mathematics/statistics than the people you are talking to, which is not necessarily correct. k

Do not know what to say other to re-read my statement carefully

I said, with other words, that some people here in the thread try to stop (I said block)...........


I was not me who took the words (wrong words) of EURUSDD as god-given.This fault have done others.

I think I have presented enough evidence and arguments here, that people with more knowledge about mathematics and statistics should be able to discuss or refute.

I was all ear the last days I spent here.........
  • #13,063
  • Nov 22, 2014 3:07pm Nov 22, 2014 3:07pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Hi kprsa, Hi kiads, I'm the one who suspended kiads. The reason is simple, Infinitus has not insulted kiad or anyone who defends the eurusdd ideas. He's discussing about the correctness/exactitude of the probabilities claimed by the pro recurrent/transient zone followers. If Infinitus is wrong, what one should do is to show him where he is mistaken, not insulting him as being sexually frustrated. The FF code of conduct is pretty clear on this. I'm sure that you understand that the arguments should not go personal if we want this place to...


  • #13,064
  • Nov 22, 2014 3:09pm Nov 22, 2014 3:09pm
Quoting PipitoGrillo
{quote} I don't see much of a gem either but the thread helped me reflecting. IMO transient and reccurent is just some fancy tag on common knowledge. Breakouts normaly fail and if they don't they often got tested, so succsessfull Breakouts and reversals = rare events. If you got a BO/rev it's unlikely that soon there will be another one because they normaly just fail. The market cycle is spike, channel, trading range, etc. If a trend ends price normaly pulls back to the channel begin. supply and demand meet again (price is 'cheap' enough again to...

can fully agree on that
  • #13,065
  • Nov 22, 2014 3:13pm Nov 22, 2014 3:13pm
Quoting tashkent
{quote} it is not secret my friend. there is no "secret" ingredient either. things i talk about are a lot deeper than most people can comprehend here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4vbPfLd6c0

  • #13,066
  • Edited Nov 23, 2014 1:21am Nov 22, 2014 3:24pm | Edited Nov 23, 2014 1:21am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Hi kprsa, Hi kiads, I'm the one who suspended kiads.
Quoting infinitus
{quote}
when i seen that i said to myself there is a 97% probability you were on his buddy list
  • #13,067
  • Nov 22, 2014 3:32pm Nov 22, 2014 3:32pm
Quoting infinitus
{quote} Do not know what to say other to re-read my statement carefully I said, with other words, that some people here in the thread try to stop (I said block)...........
OK, I must have misunderstood you then, I am sorry. But, please, be more careful with your words in the future.

k
  • #13,068
  • Nov 22, 2014 4:47pm Nov 22, 2014 4:47pm
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Hi kprsa, Hi kiads, I'm the one who suspended kiads. The reason is simple, Infinitus has not insulted kiad or anyone who defends the eurusdd ideas. He's discussing about the correctness/exactitude of the probabilities claimed by the pro recurrent/transient zone followers. If Infinitus is wrong, what one should do is to show him where he is mistaken, not insulting him as being sexually frustrated. The FF code of conduct is pretty clear on this. I'm sure that you understand that the arguments should not go personal if we want this place to...

Quoting infinitus
{quote} what a prick you are when this whole thread started, I questioned EURUSDD some serious questions and he set me on ignore. Is ignorance contagious? Why should I load an indicator? Why should I even develop one? Based on what? Flawed mathematics, random information, a thesis no one can agree on. So what, genious. Maybe we can discuss again, when you have done approximately as many productive postings here in FF than I have done over the course of the last years. 400 postings, 4 files (where is your indicator, if I may ask) and some...
So he hasn't insulted anyone?? You need your eyes checked

I tried to be polite and show him where he was wrong but he kept on regurgitating the same nonsense.
  • #13,069
  • Nov 22, 2014 5:57pm Nov 22, 2014 5:57pm
You need your eyes checked

Baillie, these days, I am unsure what can, and cant be said in the forum despite the FF code.

I'll be careful here .......... it could be suggested that there are inconsistencies amongst seniors, and possibly even double standards.

I hope I don't get suspended for that
What you do is a reflection of you....what I do is a reflection of me.
  • #13,070
  • Nov 22, 2014 10:21pm Nov 22, 2014 10:21pm
where's the ignore BUTTON?
jeez last 20 or so pages were boring as hell
i guess i just added more to it
sorry
  • #13,071
  • Nov 22, 2014 11:41pm Nov 22, 2014 11:41pm
Quoting kprsa
{quote} OK, I must have misunderstood you then, I am sorry. But, please, be more careful with your words in the future. k

Maybe the following words do qualify to your all standard


A Dream Within a Dream
By Edgar Allan Poe (http://www.poetryfoundation.org/bio/edgar-allan-poe)


Take this kiss upon the brow!
And, in parting from you now,
Thus much let me avow —
You are not wrong, who deem
That my days have been a dream;
Yet if hope has flown away
In a night, or in a day,
In a vision, or in none,
Is it therefore the less gone?
All that we see or seem
Is but a dream within a dream.

I stand amid the roar
Of a surf-tormented shore,
And I hold within my hand
Grains of the golden sand —
How few! yet how they creep
Through my fingers to the deep,
While I weep — while I weep!
O God! Can I not grasp
Them with a tighter clasp?
O God! can I not save
One from the pitiless wave?
Is all that we see or seem
But a dream within a dream?


Bye.......
  • #13,072
  • Nov 23, 2014 1:32am Nov 23, 2014 1:32am
Quoting maximinus
{quote} Hi kprsa, Hi kiads, I'm the one who suspended kiads. The reason is simple, Infinitus has not insulted kiad or anyone who defends the eurusdd ideas. He's discussing about the correctness/exactitude of the probabilities claimed by the pro recurrent/transient zone followers. If Infinitus is wrong, what one should do is to show him where he is mistaken, not insulting him as being sexually frustrated. The FF code of conduct is pretty clear on this. I'm sure that you understand that the arguments should not go personal if we want this place to...
Hmmm, I'm not happy about Kiad's suspension, he's usually a pleasant, helpful, humble guy and is well-known for his funny pictures.

BUT... it takes balls to admit that you suspended someone and I also understand how you saw his post as a direct insult. Most times people get suspended on here they can only suspect who did it and don't know for sure because the senior member hides behind their anonymity. This happened last week with Baillie and Ullen, and it happens quite often on the eurusd thread. It creates bad feelings and I wish FF admin would so something about it, such as forcing the identity of the suspending member and the reason to be made public.

So, respect for admitting it, but sorry it happened to Kiads. Just my 2 cents.
You reap what you sow.
  • #13,073
  • Nov 23, 2014 1:40am Nov 23, 2014 1:40am
Quoting NorthTrader
{quote} Hmmm, I'm not happy about kiad's suspension, he's usually a pleasant, helpful, humble guy and is well-known for his funny pictures. BUT... it takes balls to admit that you suspended someone and I also understand how you saw his post as a direct insult. Most times people get suspended on here they can only suspect who did it and don't know for sure because the senior member hides behind their anonymity. This happened last week with Baillie and Ullen, and it happens quite often on the eurusd thread. It creates bad feelings and I wish FF admin...
I agree with this. If you suspend someone, have the courage to say who you are, and the reason. I should add that it should confirmed by FF admin.

Twee, I do hope you see this post.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #13,074
  • Nov 23, 2014 4:33am Nov 23, 2014 4:33am
Quoting NorthTrader
{quote} Hmmm, I'm not happy about Kiad's suspension, he's usually a pleasant, helpful, humble guy and is well-known for his funny pictures. BUT... it takes balls to admit that you suspended someone and I also understand how you saw his post as a direct insult. Most times people get suspended on here they can only suspect who did it and don't know for sure because the senior member hides behind their anonymity. This happened last week with Baillie and Ullen, and it happens quite often on the eurusd thread. It creates bad feelings and I wish FF admin...
Morning North,
I understand and share your concerns. I can only speak about my conduct. If I have any prerogative it should go hand in hand with responsibility. I think that I have exerced this prerogative with responsibility:
Suspending someone is equal to restricting someone's freedom of expression, so it should be done with caution.
Freedom of expression is not freedom to insult others and deviate the debate from the topic in discussion.
So I had to put in balance those two elements and I came to the conclusion that Kiad insulted another member who was discussing probabilities with a third member without giving any argument related to probabilities.

If you read the last pages you'll see that Infinitus was discussing probabilities with others and Kiad was not part of the discussion team. He entered the discussion with a first post full of sarcasm but without any argument related to the topic and a second post clearly insulting infinitus.
In which side the balance go for you ?
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #13,075
  • Nov 23, 2014 4:39am Nov 23, 2014 4:39am
Ok, now we have gone almost the full circle here. Lately there was a lot of trolling, bad humour, then various accusations and suspensions and discussions who did what.
I think it is high time to start discussing the similarity concept and its application to trading again here. Vlady's thread is more educational, and PiratePip's is imo unrealistic with its expectations towards participants, even though both contain many useful things.

k
  • #13,076
  • Edited 8:58pm Nov 23, 2014 5:12am | Edited 8:58pm
For anyone using Ninjatrader, I've just made a small enhancement to my TZBarAnalysis indicator, particularly useful for those using small h values. Details and V3 file are here (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7893406#post7893406).

Edit: Better upload the file to this thread too in case someone downloads the old version from the attachments page:
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip TZBarAnalysis_V3.zip   6 KB | 840 downloads
You reap what you sow.
  • #13,077
  • Nov 23, 2014 5:14am Nov 23, 2014 5:14am
Quoting Baillie
{quote} {quote} So he hasn't insulted anyone?? You need your eyes checked I tried to be polite and show him where he was wrong but he kept on regurgitating the same nonsense.
Hi Baillie,

I checked my eyes, so I read your post and infi's post, I'm sorry he has not violated any substantial rule of conduct, only formal rule of conduct by calling you what a prick as part of heated debate with you.

I'm sorry, I agree with infinitus. It is up to the one who advances a new proposition tho demonstrate the validity and not his critics to prove that it is false.
I'm not saying that eurusdd is wrong but it is up to him and his follower to prove that they are right. A trade explorer does not prove anything. Tell us which indicator should be download and give the code of that indicator in. txt format. I refuse to download any indicator if I can't study it and for this I need it in .txt format.
Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #13,078
  • Nov 23, 2014 5:51am Nov 23, 2014 5:51am
Quoting maximinus
If you read the last pages you'll see that Infinitus was discussing probabilities with others and Kiad was not part of the discussion team. He entered the discussion with a first post full of sarcasm but without any argument related to the topic and a second post clearly insulting infinitus. In which side the balance go for you ?
Thanks Max, but I'd rather not be drawn into this type of judgement. I'm probably biased because I've known Kiads and his writing style for much longer than Infinitus. My first impression was that Infinitus' initial response (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7892623#post7892623) to him was rude and aggressive. Kiads could be forgiven for spelling Roessler as Rossler because his actual name is Rössler (with an umlaut). Infinitus could have worded his response in a more friendly way if he'd tried. So I got the impression that Infinitus' response was more aggressive than Kiad's post, and this provoked Kiads to be more aggressive in turn. But what's done is done, so let's put it behind us and move on.

This thread had a great and positive atmosphere a few weeks ago and I really miss those days. If we're bothering to continue posting in it then we should, all of us, try to recreate that atmosphere and try to be nice to each other!
You reap what you sow.
  • #13,079
  • Nov 23, 2014 5:59am Nov 23, 2014 5:59am
Quoting NorthTrader
{quote} If we're bothering to continue posting in it then we should, all of us, try to recreate that atmosphere and try to be nice to each other!
I agree with you,

The important point is that no one should suspect that infinitus has suspended kiad. I'm the one responsible or guilty whatever Twee's decision.

Don't be smart. Be rich.
  • #13,080
  • Nov 23, 2014 6:20am Nov 23, 2014 6:20am
Quoting NorthTrader
{quote} Thanks Max, but I'd rather not be drawn into this type of judgement. I'm probably biased because I've known Kiads and his writing style for much longer than Infinitus. My first impression was that Infinitus' initial response (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7892623#post7892623) to him was rude and aggressive. Kiads could be forgiven for spelling Roessler as Rossler because his actual name is Rössler (with an umlaut). Infinitus could have worded his response in a more friendly way if he'd tried. So I got the impression...

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Lol.. I just learn this for 2 weeks from this thread, from my friend Vlady and from wikipedia with my limited knowledge and my bad English, then create my indicators.. base on Rossler and Quadric ...,

no wonder I really confuse when read this latest discussion.. something simple but wrap it with hi tech conversations..lol.
100 % probability is still probability.. that's it.
but in forex with only simple 2 options up or down, it should be more easier than poker...
MTH

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Quoting Kiads (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7892613#post7892613)
Ignored

so the guys name is actually Roessler

and what was your point, when I may ask?

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That was friendly enough in light how he behaved above and in a response he did earlier


Did not know that I was surrounded by such sensitive creatures.........


Double swear: that are my last words here


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btw.: here it is

 

  1. http://assets.forexfactory.net/nfs/c...ar259616_5.gif Kiads (http://www.forexfactory.com/kiads)
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Because I'm noob,

For all of you the great gentlemen who really smart in math and really know about market structure and always in profit.. bla..bla..bla..

Please.. please never download and use my stupid probabilities indicators that only base on 'coin toss' formula..lol.

I can't imagine, if someday you blame me if something wrong happen..to your account. But if that actually happen i can only suggest you to read my signature..


MTH

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