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  • #161
  • Edited 10:42pm Nov 17, 2014 8:27pm | Edited 10:42pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Look Stinky, it is up to the buyer to decide if those claims are true. Eitan might also believe those claims are true based upon his BACKTESTS. And, truth be told we honestly do not know if the claims are true or not. We cannot know until 2024. You are asking the wrong questions.
Then eitan should definitely have a refund policy just in case his claims are wrong going into the future.

It makes sense to wait a few months for the proof. He should've had it ready before going commercial.
  • #162
  • Nov 17, 2014 8:45pm Nov 17, 2014 8:45pm
Quoting JoeNY
Just curious. Do you currently trade FX? I've read quite a few of your post. You're slightly on the bitter side. What's going on in your life Bro? {quote}
Hey Mate,yes I currently trade FX but in all honesty I am not successful although I do have my moments.I've had my account up 40% then down 40%,I've run at B/E for months on end but that elusive "trade for a living" situation has consistently eluded me.I don't need to be successful at trading FX, because I have another business, but I would love to be.If I come across as bitter then you are misinterpreting my realism.Let's face it the dream of sitting at home on your computer trading currencies for a living has a lot of appeal but the reality is otherwise.
  • #163
  • Nov 17, 2014 9:02pm Nov 17, 2014 9:02pm
PoundTrader is the biggest scammer on here he took 100k of my money
  • #164
  • Nov 17, 2014 9:08pm Nov 17, 2014 9:08pm
Quoting edge540
{quote} In seven years of being on here I have seen absolutely no evidence of a successful trader...I've seen countless BS artists and con men but that is all.
Just think for a second! Why would a successful trader who trades for a living come here and share his gold with strangers ? I mean seriously ! Some people are extremely naive.

All the systems you see around here either ; authors are looking for "input" themselves, meaning their systems are not finalized. Or, they they're looking to show a little here and there and then charge their "followers" for the rest. Both cases these systems are "losers" in the long run. A successful trader doesn't need to "sell" anything. If they're 'selling' then they're not making any money trading! Think people THINK!

I trade for a living. And I been trading last 10 yrs. I wouldn't share my systems or strategies not in million years. Why should I ? It's my livelihood. I worked very hard to get where I am right now. It took years of hard work and enough money to earn two BS degrees. Do you ask a surgeon to teach you how to operate on people ? Then why do you think you'll become a successful trader by reading internet forums ?

About your rant, yes! there are successful traders here. People like me, always test new ideas - demo new strategies etc. Why ? because I like what I do I like learning new things about the business. Otherwise I wound't be able to sit and do this 10hrs a day.
  • #165
  • Nov 17, 2014 9:09pm Nov 17, 2014 9:09pm
This is easier than me posting an example. Edge please download or use link 2 to view Phanti's PDF Trading Price II and go to page 24. That setup is all you will ever need. Forget about everything else and only look for that. The example is a long but reverse it also for shorts. Works and looks the same way. A clean chart, a horizontal line and that setup.... it's everywhere but only if you are looking for it. I repeat, only if you are looking for it. Only focus on the breakout part and forget about the other trades he mentions you can get out of it. Study that page, trade nothing else but that setup. Keep track of the time of day the setup works best/takes off best and make note of the range in pips you get in the time frame used. M15 offers more trades, larger times frames less trades but more pips. Give that a fair shot for a few months. Don't be greedy. Take your profit and work on your entry for tightest stop. It's been around since forever. Simple S&R but you have to be looking for it.

Sorry about this being off topic OP. I will leave now...

Quoting edge540
{quote} Hey Mate,yes I currently trade FX but in all honesty I am not successful although I do have my moments.I've had my account up 40% then down 40%,I've run at B/E for months on end but that elusive "trade for a living" situation has consistently eluded me.I don't need to be successful at trading FX, because I have another business, but I would love to be.If I come across as bitter then you are misinterpreting my realism.Let's face it the dream of sitting at home on your computer trading currencies for a living has a lot of appeal but the reality...
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  • #166
  • Nov 18, 2014 12:13am Nov 18, 2014 12:13am
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
{quote} GDR3k.....I went there and saw your posts and some other members posts....very very funny what would you do with $88.000.000.000....?? (no proof of scam....)
So it's $88 billion now?

Little wonder that Einstein described compounding as the eighth wonder of the world.
  • #167
  • Nov 18, 2014 1:21am Nov 18, 2014 1:21am
4xPIPAHOLIC,

Very nice thread. And you are doing good job handling the thread.

It serves good purpose for protecting novice or rookie forex traders. If someone is scammed or trying to scam and one provides proof for it than its actually very helpful towards FF community.

There is no mud slinging going on...It makes you wonder why some people wants to close down this thread.
If i am clean and somebody calls me scammer , i wont give rat's ass and certainly wont go on offensive. I will let them provide proof.
  • #168
  • Nov 18, 2014 1:56am Nov 18, 2014 1:56am
Its a good thread period

The information gets out for the community to see and come to their own conclusions. Anyone who is against this thread is pretty much saying FF is full of idiots who can't come to their own intelligent conclusions
  • #169
  • Nov 18, 2014 3:11am Nov 18, 2014 3:11am
Quoting PoundTrader
PoundTrader is the biggest scammer on here he took 100k of my money
Paranoid Schizophrenic = Not scammer.

Paranoid = Scammer

Funny how this thread is bringing out all of the paranoid.
  • #170
  • Nov 18, 2014 3:39am Nov 18, 2014 3:39am
Quoting LITEchild
EURUSDD is a serious contender! {image}
Hi Pipa,

posts like this pdf from FX-Jay are at least some kind of proof if not faked, most other postings are just
throwing shit onto another and they are just ""entertaining"" for a weekend but without any substance.
i would close this topic and thats my vote!
See you in the DIDI Topic

regards thodie
just do it
  • #171
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:31am Nov 18, 2014 6:31am
For you guys into this thread, eyeball this Cat. Possibly the early stages of evil about to unfold? They may be on the list in a year or so... Their 3rd post
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  • #172
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:39am Nov 18, 2014 6:39am
Quoting JoeNY
For you guys into this thread, eyeball this Cat. Possibly the early stages of evil about to unfold? They may be on the list in a year or so... Their 3rd post
Either that Joe, or the next victim? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post7847409

The only subscription ....
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  • #173
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:41am Nov 18, 2014 6:41am
Holy crap. Wait a second. Didn't he say he made 50 grand in FOrex just recently from a $200 account. Now he is asking Dancing Phil if he is still accepting students.

NOW I HAVE SEEN IT ALL!!!! The balls on these creeps.... It's an entire network of slime.....

Quoting albchr
{quote} Either that Joe, or the next victim? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...09#post7847409 The only subscription .... {image}
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  • #174
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:42am Nov 18, 2014 6:42am
Quoting JoeNY
Holy crap. Wait a second. Didn't he say he made 50 grand in FOrex just recently. Now he is asking Dancing Phil if he is still accepting student. NOW I HAVE SEEN IT ALL!!!! The balls on these creeps.... {quote}
ok smells like total crap now.
  • #175
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:44am Nov 18, 2014 6:44am
LOL...., I TODE YOU......

Quoting LuKa12
{quote} ok smells like total crap now.
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  • #176
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:47am Nov 18, 2014 6:47am
Quoting JoeNY
Holy crap. Wait a second. Didn't he say he made 50 grand in FOrex just recently from a $200 account. Now he is asking Dancing Phil if he is still accepting students. NOW I HAVE SEEN IT ALL!!!! The balls on these creeps.... It's an entire network of slime..... {quote}
Some of them stand right out ... eh? Gotta make you wonder. ... lol
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  • #177
  • Nov 18, 2014 6:48am Nov 18, 2014 6:48am
For real my Brotha....

Quoting albchr
{quote} Some of them stand right out ... eh? Gotta make you wonder. ... lol
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  • #178
  • Nov 18, 2014 7:18am Nov 18, 2014 7:18am
I would say 100% method in the offering reasons 50K he made trading, nice round number, I started with 200 no doubt catch all the newbies here and lastly the user name LUKA as any one knows is money.


Going to be a winner this one
  • #179
  • Nov 18, 2014 7:30am Nov 18, 2014 7:30am
For what it's worth, this thread should not be discontinued.
On the whole it can provide a platform for legitimate concerns, and places the burden of proof on the provider. I like this.

As far as legitimacy is concerned, I know some have raised the issue of the inability of commercial members to defend their position.
To me this is not a valid argument for the thread to be discontinued.

Let's clarify one point...commercial members have this status because they have a commercial interest in selling something. I'm not saying that this fact alone should mean that what they say cannot be trusted, but if they have any interest in building a strong customer base, they should be up to meeting the concerns of other members head on, and their reputation should speak for itself. It should not need to be defended by minions of its master/creator.

I find it a little disturbing the lengths some people will go to defend their preferred "guru." Regardless as to whether that member can, or cannot post in other forums. This should be irrelevant.
I don't know of any professional, in any industry who is concerned by a little badmouthing on various internet forums. Those professionals who can back up their claims simply do not concern themselves with meaningless chat room banter seeking to discredit their names.

I commend the attitude of Albchr who says simply "prove it or shut up!"
This is the correct attitude when faced with the type of personal attack expected in forums such as this.

Let the record speak for itself. Any professional worth his salt would not concern him/her self with meaningless accusations on internet forums.

Let this thread continue, and let's discuss with open minds all the potential meanings of the word "scam."

The term confidence trickster should be the most important in the world of FX. Those who claim big things with no backing for such claims.

"Past performance is no guarantee of future results" is the most frequently used disclaimer in the FX community....perhaps the definition of scammer should be extended to those offering paid services that in fact yield no positive results......

Just my thoughts......
Wealth comes from what you keep, not what you earn
  • #180
  • Nov 18, 2014 7:47am Nov 18, 2014 7:47am
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} You should close this thread. 1. The accused cannot defend themselves so there is no due process. 2. Under the strict definition of scam, there are only a handful. 3. It is not fitting of a member of your status in the community. Go back and look at the members who posted in this thread. They came because you have the potential to be taken seriously. The pen is indeed mightier than the sword. You have the power to hurt people, so be careful.

Perhaps you are taking this thread topic too seriously.

Chill out and enjoy having a dig at these exaggerated egos who have too much to say and ask for payment, scammers or not.

People who fall for their schemes are lazy. Everything is out there on the web to learn and make money.

The real work is working on yourself. If people want to continue believing otherwise then that's fine. I'll continue to enjoy having a dig at those scammers and those 'bucket mouths', in the hope that it educates those fools that easily fall for them.
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