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  • #41
  • Nov 16, 2014 5:34pm Nov 16, 2014 5:34pm
Quoting Hurst
Just because someone sells a method does not mean its a scam. A lot of folks have good knowledge and make a profit, if they want to go commercial its a free world.
Agree

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  • #42
  • Nov 16, 2014 5:35pm Nov 16, 2014 5:35pm
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Search as much as you can, if you don't have better to do. I have nothing to hide man...instead, if i remind you were a red member times ago. Maybe there's a reason you have been downgraded But i don't wanna to transform this USEFUL thread in a word war with you. But be sure if you will call UNFAIRLY "scammer" a friend of mine, you will find me always here for you. Learn to WEIGHT the words, man... adults do it, usually.
Eitan is a scammer. Take that and do what you want with it.
You may be here and you may not. Let's see how long it takes the mod to find out what other names you have.
  • #43
  • Nov 16, 2014 5:38pm Nov 16, 2014 5:38pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Eitan is a scammer. Take that and do what you want with it.
Not more than you,man... not more than you.
  • #44
  • Nov 16, 2014 5:49pm Nov 16, 2014 5:49pm
We do not want this thread to become a shouting box but we want everyone's opinion...
Wrong or right everyone's opinion counts

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  • #45
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:02pm Nov 16, 2014 6:02pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Eitan has his people in here. He needs to invent another name that can write English.
If you wanna write in italian with perfect grammar you are welcome.
But for language deficits people can improve, with persistence and study...unfortunately other kinds of "deficits" that someone suffers, are not so easy to heal
  • #46
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:20pm Nov 16, 2014 6:20pm
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} If you wanna write in italian with perfect grammar you are welcome. But for language deficits people can improve, with persistence and study...unfortunately other kinds of "deficits" that someone suffers, are not so easy to heal
Like being a kiss ass?
Like calling these scum bags "Master"?
I think you've damaged your "Master" enough today. He needs to replace you with another shill.
  • #47
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:24pm Nov 16, 2014 6:24pm
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} No prob in serious FAIR debate. I can testify for Eitan by my side: good friend that shared good systems (at least 8-10) for free, for months and months (with free support there too). Now he decided to sell his last creation and then is simple for people that don't weight too much the words before shouting, to shout scam scam scam... ...but as far as i remind, the person that called it scammer here, just posted ONCE in one of his threads (Science MRI..now all his threads are under "commercial", but apart the last thread he started...
I'm not aware of any proof provided by eitan or anyone. Eitan managed to grow an account to 800% or something like that, but he did it without a stop loss and then went into massive DD on one trade. After that, he used the excuse of experimenting. Sooo... No proof that his claims are real. Now with his commercial product he refuses to provide proof.

For several months he's been building his reputation with incomplete systems that no one has proven, and now people take that as proof of his commercial claim?
  • #48
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:26pm Nov 16, 2014 6:26pm
Quoting Stinky
{quote} I'm not aware of any proof provided by eitan or anyone. Eitan managed to grow an account to 800% or something like that, but he did it without a stop loss and then went into massive DD on one trade. After that, he used the excuse of experimenting. Sooo... No proof that his claims are real. Now with his commercial product he refuses to provide proof. For several months he's been building his reputation with incomplete systems that no one has proven, and now people take that as proof of his commercial claim?

Thanks Stinky for the info

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  • #49
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:26pm Nov 16, 2014 6:26pm
Quoting Hurst
Just because someone sells a method does not mean its a scam. A lot of folks have good knowledge and make a profit, if they want to go commercial its a free world.
  • #50
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:30pm Nov 16, 2014 6:30pm
Quoting LITEchild
{quote} I agree. There is nothing fraudulent about selling your system or commercialising your methods, as long as you are open about it and your claims are verified as true. That is people actually get their monies worth and no one complains of being shortchanged. Full disclosure. Scam is when you are not forth coming with your intentions, and defraud people based on false claims without any recourse to refunds when those claims don't pan out. That was the problem iin the Eurusdd case. I think Eitan was different in that respect. Just my 2cents....
Eitan sells a system he claims has win percentages very close to 100% for 15 pips.
He also implies it is very profitable.
I can tell you there is no such system. If you have been trading very long, you know there isn't.

He started selling this system on the open forum. He should have been banned at that time. It was a flagrant violation of the forum rules.
Instead he was put into the Commercial forum by the moderator.
  • #51
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:32pm Nov 16, 2014 6:32pm
Quoting Stinky
{quote} I'm not aware of any proof provided by eitan or anyone. Eitan managed to grow an account to 800% or something like that, but he did it without a stop loss and then went into massive DD on one trade. After that, he used the excuse of experimenting. Sooo... No proof that his claims are real. Now with his commercial product he refuses to provide proof. For several months he's been building his reputation with incomplete systems that no one has proven, and now people take that as proof of his commercial claim?

^^^ this seems to be the story around here. Throw a few ideas around, no complete or successful systems, just ideas that look good on paper. When realize system wont make money or sustain probability long term, use the follower base to cash in. Either create a secret commercial system or ask people to fund you.

  • #52
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:33pm Nov 16, 2014 6:33pm
Quoting Stinky
{quote} I'm not aware of any proof provided by eitan or anyone. Eitan managed to grow an account to 800% or something like that, but he did it without a stop loss and then went into massive DD on one trade. After that, he used the excuse of experimenting. Sooo... No proof that his claims are real. Now with his commercial product he refuses to provide proof. For several months he's been building his reputation with incomplete systems that no one has proven, and now people take that as proof of his commercial claim?
Not accurate Stinky .But hey at least you express your point of view with education, while other don't.
  • #53
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:35pm Nov 16, 2014 6:35pm
Quoting billbss
{quote} Eitan sells a system he claims has win percentages very close to 100% for 15 pips. He also implies it is very profitable. I can tell you there is no such system. If you have been trading very long, you know there isn't. He started selling this system on the open forum. He should have been banned at that time. It was a flagrant violation of the forum rules. Instead he was put into the Commercial forum by the moderator.
I agree. The claims do sound outrageous. My point is that NOONE has yet come forward to claim paying for it and not satisfied with the result AND his money was not refunded! If someone were to make those claims and back it up with proof, THAT WOULD BE PROOF OF FRAUD. That is what happened in the case of EURUSDD and I have the documents to prove it. In Eitans case I do not. And i know of noone (yet!) who does.
  • #54
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:36pm Nov 16, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting 4xPIPAHOLIC
Hello everyone! Just for fun, but serious I decided to open this thread so we can take scammers to court.
Jodi Arias ..........

Ask Travis for proof ........
  • #55
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:36pm Nov 16, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Not accurate Stinky .But hey at least you express your point of view with education, while other don't.
In what way is it not accurate?
  • #56
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:42pm Nov 16, 2014 6:42pm
Lets get one thing straight. Some people are simply full of shit! That doesn't make them frauds or scammers. Not yet anyway. But whenever there is proof a transaction has taken place, and the buyer is not satisfied with the product being as accurate as advertised(all rules being adhered to), and the seller subsequently REFUSES to give a refund, THAT is when being full of shit gets elevated to scammer status. So far most of the names being touted here as scammers are just idiots who are still at 'full of shit' level.
  • #57
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:48pm Nov 16, 2014 6:48pm
There is more than one way to run a scam.
I know at least two thread starters who demand email addresses before they will provide certain indicators. One stopped doing it after he was suspended for it. One of these people has posted here defending Eitan. I have long suspected they were connected.
Why do they want email addresses? What is their motive?
Forex is full of naive and gullible beginners. Email lists of these people are valuable and sell for top dollar to the professional jackals.
If you see this going on in a thread, report it.
  • #58
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:50pm Nov 16, 2014 6:50pm
Quoting billbss
There is more than one way to run a scam. I know at least two thread starters who demand email addresses before they will provide certain indicators. One stopped doing it after he was suspended for it. One of these people has posted here defending Eitan. I have long suspected they were connected. Why do they want email addresses? What is their motive? Forex is full of naive and gullible beginners. Email lists of these people are valuable and sell for top dollar to the professional jackals. If you see this going on in a thread, report it.
I agree.
  • #59
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:58pm Nov 16, 2014 6:58pm
Quoting Stinky
{quote} In what way is it not accurate?
1- his systems (free ones particularly) are always under development..i mean: Eitan (or anyone) can give Backtest results for his ideas/systems but of course the future is never ever guaranteed. He furnished free systems as much mechanical as possible (sometimes rules changes cause if a chance of improvement seen, ok, we go for it... otherwise it would be a Holy grail! his community very active...some developed his onw system using some of his ideas/systems) and never said "ok, punt your whole farm at every trade with this XYZ system of mine, cause it's infallible" ,on the contrary, he often warns people about MM, control of greed, etc...

2- "the proove" you search is all the free time Eitan spent for totally strangers. He gave away systems/ideas in exchange of nothing. If you wanna a perpetual trade explorer, sorry Eitan don't wanna this ...everyone have to take his own responsabilities for his own trading...take it or leave it. But from this to saying scam scam scam well, that is another story. Everybody is free not to follow him, but this don't give the right to call him scammer at all.

3- incomplete systems? Actually with the last developments (i talk about free systems) he gave templates, indicators (some even developed by Eitan people), mechanicals rules, tp & sl threshold, suggestion about days/hours to avoid.... Well...i don't know what more you can wanna by a system. Yes, i know...we all would like a Holy grail infallible..but i really doubt it exists
  • #60
  • Nov 16, 2014 6:59pm Nov 16, 2014 6:59pm
Quoting cariddi74
{quote} Hahaha...replacing damaged malfunctioning brain is more difficult,right?.... For 4xPIPAHOLIC: bro, this thread has already degenerated...i am sorry, i said i don't wanna to start word wars, but when my friends or me are provoked by mind disconnected people, i have hard time in not replying them for the rhymes. I suggest some kind of rules against slandering people and against people attacking among themselves here....but ASAP, cause if i were a mod, seeing this, i would delete the thread immediately... just my half cent. :nerd:
I agree with no names calling anyone calling names will be blocked but they are allowed to state there opinion about someone they do not trust and feel he is a scammer. If there is enough members that think he is we will put the vote out and the members will decide. This is what this thread is about, but no names calling. If someone is called names just please pm me and I will take care of that.
Let's have a nice clean debate.

Thanks
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