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  • #5,201
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:37am Nov 10, 2014 12:37am
Quoting nsn14
{quote} Yup, look like only way to sort out... however can you give me a quick guide what are the differences between Nihilist Ultra Trend v2 and Nihilist Holy Grail indi?
From my point of view holygrail is more powerful but is lagging . You get signal too late sometimes

Edit : Don't use it if you are trading lower TF then H4
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  • #5,202
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:54am Nov 10, 2014 12:54am
Quoting nsn14
Yup, look like only way to sort out... however can you give me a quick guide what are the differences between Nihilist Ultra Trend v2 and Nihilist Holy Grail indi?
Psshhhhh... Don't ask Ferru to do all the work for you.

I can assure you that he's already got enough on his plate.

If you are SERIOUS about trading, it is the VERY LEAST you can do for yourself.

Otherwise, GOODBYE, you will not be a successful trader, and I feel no shame in saying that.
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  • #5,203
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:58am Nov 10, 2014 12:58am
Quoting nsn14
{quote} Yup, look like only way to sort out... however can you give me a quick guide ...
The guide is the thread. Read it and you will find your own way according to your own trading style and risk.
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  • #5,204
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:59am Nov 10, 2014 12:59am
PS: Guess what? Are any of you really surprised that the indicator that is supposed to be the holy grail, is LAGGING?!?

That doesn't concern any of you?

Perhaps because..... that is not the only piece of the equation.....

And honestly, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that, either.
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  • #5,205
  • Nov 10, 2014 12:59am Nov 10, 2014 12:59am
Quoting smash1820
{quote} Psshhhhh... Don't ask Ferru to do all the work for you. I can assure you that he's already got enough on his plate. If you are SERIOUS about trading, it is the VERY LEAST you can do for yourself. Otherwise, GOODBYE, you will not be a successful trader, and I feel no shame in saying that.
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  • #5,206
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:00am Nov 10, 2014 1:00am
Quoting smash1820
... because..... that is not the only piece of the equation.....
Exactly ...
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  • #5,207
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:10am Nov 10, 2014 1:10am
Quoting kholid79
{quote} good morning stevepaat, I promised this last Friday. {image}

Hi kholid,

So you where making a prediction.

All I'm trying to point out, to you, is that you are better off having the power of the prevailing trend at your back.

You need to be aware, when taking a trade, wether you are with the over all trend or in a re-tracement of an higher TF.

Knowing this affects the profit target you can expect from a trade.
  • #5,208
  • Nov 10, 2014 1:20am Nov 10, 2014 1:20am
Quoting stevepatt
All I'm trying to point out to you is that you are better off having the power of the prevailing trend at your back. You need to be aware when taking a trade wether you are with the over all trend or in a re-tracement of an higher TF. Knowing this affects the profit target you can expect from a trade.
Oh my gosh, thank you so much for posting this.

It seems you are another voice of reason!!! Thank god.

I just spent about the last 2 days (or so it feels like) arguing against the title of this thread: Trend Is Your Enemy

I also posted here and HERE about my thoughts on the topic. And I would not say that I put it lightly...
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  • #5,209
  • Nov 10, 2014 2:04am Nov 10, 2014 2:04am
sofar i got great result from this thread.
thanks
  • #5,210
  • Nov 10, 2014 3:28am Nov 10, 2014 3:28am
CADJPY H4 Ultra Trend UTF1 and UTF2 confirm sell (NOT ADX for now)
TDI Daily reverse trend ?
  • #5,211
  • Nov 10, 2014 4:30am Nov 10, 2014 4:30am
Quoting smash1820
{quote} Oh my gosh, thank you so much for posting this. It seems you are another voice of reason!!! Thank god. I just spent about the last 2 days (or so it feels like) arguing against the title of this thread: Trend Is Your Enemy I also posted here and HERE about my thoughts on the topic. And I would not...

Hi smash,

Why fight the market?

It's a lot easier finding a Pullback, in an established trend, to look for PA to trade with the prevailing trend at your back than it is to find a level of virgin Demand/Supply strong enough to turn a running train.

If anyone is into stopping runaway trains they had better be prepared to take a lot of losses before boarding the right train.
  • #5,212
  • Nov 10, 2014 5:33am Nov 10, 2014 5:33am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi smash, Why fight the market? It's a lot easier finding a Pullback, in an established trend, to look for PA to trade with the prevailing trend at your back than it is to find a level of virgin Demand/Supply strong enough to turn a running train. If anyone is into stopping runaway trains they had better be prepared to take a lot of losses before boarding the right train.

Hi Steve, thanks for your perspective, similar approach to me. Can you explain how you define your AL and AH, this is the challenge I have, especially when market begins to range.

Thanks

Louis
  • #5,213
  • Nov 10, 2014 5:42am Nov 10, 2014 5:42am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi smash, Why fight the market? It's a lot easier finding a Pullback, in an established trend, to look for PA to trade with the prevailing trend at your back than it is to find a level of virgin Demand/Supply strong enough to turn a running train. If anyone is into stopping runaway trains they had better be prepared to take a lot of losses before boarding the right train.
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  • #5,214
  • Nov 10, 2014 5:58am Nov 10, 2014 5:58am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi Purex, I hope the charts below will explain things better. {image}

I think i didn't get what you tried to say by posting this chart but then i remembered that 1.180 area was support and now is ressistance . Took a short @ 1.171 and short E/U @ 1.2483 .
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  • #5,215
  • Edited 7:26am Nov 10, 2014 7:08am | Edited 7:26am
Quoting louis2012
{quote} Hi Steve, thanks for your perspective, similar approach to me. Can you explain how you define your AL and AH, this is the challenge I have, especially when market begins to range. Thanks Louis

Hi louise and purec,

I hope the charts below will make things clearer.

If you are day trading, for example trading H1 TF, look to get into line with the trend of H4 or D1 TF.

If you use indicators to enter trades make sure the signals you take are in alinement with the higher TF trend.
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  • #5,216
  • Nov 10, 2014 7:29am Nov 10, 2014 7:29am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi louise and purec, I hope the charts below will make things clearer. If you are day trading, for example trading H1 TF, look to get into line with the trend of H4 or D1 TF. If you use indicators to enter trades make sure the signals you take are in alinement with the higher TF trend. {image} {image} {image}
Sorry to bother you steve . I want to know if i understood what you said

Please watch these pictures and tell me if i understood what you said and if i didn't please tell me what i did wrong

Have a nice day my friend .
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  • #5,217
  • Nov 10, 2014 7:34am Nov 10, 2014 7:34am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi louise and purec, I hope the charts below will make things clearer. If you are day trading, for example trading H1 TF, look to get into line with the trend of H4 or D1 TF. If you use indicators to enter trades make sure the signals you take are in alinement with the higher TF trend. {image} {image} {image}
Thank you Steve!
I got a clear esplication of what I have made until now istinctively. I am sure this will be very helpful for me.
  • #5,218
  • Nov 10, 2014 7:43am Nov 10, 2014 7:43am
Quoting Purec
{quote} Sorry to bother you steve . I want to know if i understood what you said Please watch these pictures and tell me if i understood what you said and if i didn't please tell me what i did wrong Have a nice day my friend . {image} {image}

Hi purec,

The MRAH you have highlighted, on EUR/USD, is correct.

This is the Weekly MRAH by using this, instead of the Daily MRAH, will prevent us getting into long trades too early.

On the GBP/USD D1 chart 5 and 6 are Pin Bars all the rest are correct.
  • #5,219
  • Nov 10, 2014 7:51am Nov 10, 2014 7:51am
Quoting andgui
{quote} Thank you Steve! I got a clear esplication of what I have made until now istinctively. I am sure this will be very helpful for me.

Hi andgui,

I'm glad you have found it useful.

Even if we use indicators, to get us into trades, by trading in the direction of the higher time frame trend and only taking the signals our indicators give us in the direction of the higher time frame trend we are putting the odds of success greatly in our favour.
  • #5,220
  • Nov 10, 2014 8:25am Nov 10, 2014 8:25am
Quoting stevepatt
{quote} Hi purec, The MRAH you have highlighted, on EUR/USD, is correct. This is the Weekly MRAH by using this, instead of the Daily MRAH, will prevent us getting into long trades too early. On the GBP/USD D1 chart 5 and 6 are Pin Bars all the rest are correct.
Hummmm

Candle 6 seems more like candle 7
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