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  • #661
  • Nov 6, 2014 12:31pm Nov 6, 2014 12:31pm
Quoting vladutz112
{quote} this is your value?
Sorry, can't share these levels
Not about how much you win, but how much you loose
  • #662
  • Nov 6, 2014 12:32pm Nov 6, 2014 12:32pm
[quote=Ullen;7852659]{quote} Sorry, can't share these level
i don't want you to share just to say if i am right or wrong?
  • #663
  • Nov 6, 2014 12:33pm Nov 6, 2014 12:33pm
[quote=vladutz112;7852660]
Quoting Ullen
{quote} Sorry, can't share these level i don't want you to share just to say if i am right or wrong?
They are not my value no
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  • #664
  • Nov 6, 2014 12:39pm Nov 6, 2014 12:39pm
[quote=Ullen;7852663][quote=vladutz112;7852660]{quote} They are not my value no[/
check your pm
  • #665
  • Nov 6, 2014 3:50pm Nov 6, 2014 3:50pm
Hi everyone,It looks like he follows Sam Seiden method. Sam says to wait for a breakout and then trade it back to the break. Google his name. No mystery just how the market moves. BUT The op will probably say Sam who? He says I am here to teach you but you must be a detective. I am very skeptical. I hope I'm wrong. Trade well
Jesus my Lord
  • #666
  • Nov 7, 2014 11:18am Nov 7, 2014 11:18am
Quoting Mr D.
Hi everyone,It looks like he follows Sam Seiden method. Sam says to wait for a breakout and then trade it back to the break. Google his name. No mystery just how the market moves. BUT The op will probably say Sam who? He says I am here to teach you but you must be a detective. I am very skeptical. I hope I'm wrong. Trade well
Agreed.... just another crowdsourcer
  • #667
  • Nov 7, 2014 11:36am Nov 7, 2014 11:36am
Quoting Mr D.
Hi everyone,It looks like he follows Sam Seiden method. Sam says to wait for a breakout and then trade it back to the break. Google his name. No mystery just how the market moves. BUT The op will probably say Sam who? He says I am here to teach you but you must be a detective. I am very skeptical. I hope I'm wrong. Trade well
Nope, you're wrong..

Targets EUR/NZD:
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  • #668
  • Nov 7, 2014 11:58am Nov 7, 2014 11:58am
Quoting Ullen
{quote} Nope, you're wrong.. Targets EUR/NZD: {image}
Hallelujah, praise the lord!
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  • #669
  • Nov 7, 2014 5:42pm Nov 7, 2014 5:42pm
Hi Ullen,

Thanks for sharing your results with us, (very impressive by the way). You show that it can be done . If you don't mind, can you tell me the brokers you use for your charting and trading - if more than one. I find that some broker's demo accounts are better for charting, and then trading with a broker with good execution and regulation. For instance: I do my charting on ICMarkets demo, and trade live with Pepperstone.

All the best and keep up the awesome results!!
  • #670
  • Nov 8, 2014 10:34am Nov 8, 2014 10:34am
There are many ways of finding value when trading.

It doesnt have to be the real value, but it just need to predict moves in the market.

This one is a modified money flow indicator. I'm not using it, but it uses volume to determine current ''value''
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  • #671
  • Nov 8, 2014 11:55am Nov 8, 2014 11:55am
hi ullen,
thanks for all your contribution here. i learn lot of things from you. anyway , i hope one day trading people will know your trading method like me. eureka moment for me now. i like your style. all the best for that moment for people who following u.
  • #672
  • Edited 2:24pm Nov 8, 2014 2:02pm | Edited 2:24pm
Quoting demarko7
So, why creating this thread without the intention of sharing your method so other people can benefit from it ? What is this 'i am gonna let you people figure it out' Come on man, if you have something good share ti with the people and stop playing games Regards Demarko
demarko7,

These questions of yours are fair to ask, because if a person really wants to share, they share without reservations. A person who starts out as seemingly a sharing person, and follows up with repeated "...sorry, can't do..." and "...can't share..." is a person with something to hide. Think about this. The "sharing" can be genuine, or a gimmick. Genuine sharing is without reservations, so folks drawn in can best learn and possibly benefit. Gimmicky sharing is immediately - and rightfully so - subject to suspicious scrutiny, because the learning process is overtly being thwarted.

If your questions are ever answered to your satisfaction, great. If not, you might just consider this thread a waste of time, and move on.

The market makers are the ones that move prices. They know where the existing positions are at. They watch how pending orders form up. Then they decide which way to move price to create liquidity for themselves to either close for profit or build for future profit. Until they make their decision, they don't know how they are going to move price and neither does anyone else! Think on that, because apparently somebody here believes they can PREDICT the market successfully as a matter of course, and is suggesting it to others as a trading method! The fact is we cannot know how the MMs will move price, nor when trends will reverse. This thread is based on picking trend reversals by predicting tops/bottoms, not simply counter-trend trading. Every question here that has been directed to the starter of this thread in an attempt to learn how to do the "Predicting" has been responded to with an evasive answer.

-tah
  • #673
  • Nov 8, 2014 2:55pm Nov 8, 2014 2:55pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote} demarko7, These questions of yours are fair to ask, because if a person really wants to share, they share without reservations. A person who starts out as seemingly a sharing person, and follows up with repeated "...sorry, can't do..." and "...can't share..." is a person with something to hide. Think about this. The "sharing" can be genuine, or a gimmick. Genuine sharing is without reservations, so folks drawn in can best learn and possibly benefit. Gimmicky sharing is immediately - and rightfully so - subject...
Fortunately, they are experienced guys that show the right path..Thank you tah!
  • #674
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:07pm Nov 8, 2014 3:07pm
Quoting traderathome
{quote}Gimmicky sharing
Higher self-esteem / creating superego might also be the cause for one to gimmicky share, in order to be more confident in trading. The market can be a very, very dark place if one allows his personal self to be influenced by it for a considerable amount. I still remember calling myself names in my head when a trade went wrong(thanks to my own stubbornness). The one thing that is frustrating at this point is the amount of utter crap regarding super account statements, and fancy theories floating around that one might not be able to grasp. I am glad this period is behind me.. Anyway, various behaviour of boosting ego/confidence should be taken for granted, it is normal behaviour when you realize how tough this business can be. Most associate gimmicky sharing with profit motives.. I think its more deep than that. But anyway, this is not a psychological forum and its not good to jump into assumptions so lets stay ontopic the remainder! Some of Ullens levels are the same as the ones i marked (maybe just a coincidence). Wondering how they will turn out. Keep it up!
  • #675
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:13pm Nov 8, 2014 3:13pm
Quoting demarko7
So, why creating this thread without the intention of sharing your method so other people can benefit from it ? What is this 'i am gonna let you people figure it out' Come on man, if you have something good share ti with the people and stop playing games Regards Demarko
The truth about people is that we may want to help others, but we don't want others to become better than us. We may say we worked hard to get to what we have, (and that maybe true), but it's the underlying instinct to preserve status that creates the excuse not to share too much. We are all animals underneath!
  • #676
  • Nov 8, 2014 5:46pm Nov 8, 2014 5:46pm
Quoting Ullen
Long time no see! A few words to start some new debate. One must find an edge in the market, and this is done with probability! This is the percentage of levels cleared today, and look at the current opportunity. These should be cleared with approx 99% probability today. Take care!
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Yes your levels were hit, all cleared.... but entry is vague, stop if any is vague. I see some value though. I will investigate further. With a good entry, those take profit areas were pretty good, like on that news spike. Of course before it spiked up it spiked down... But with a good entry on that chart, those levels for taking profit would be a big help.

Aloha.
  • #677
  • Nov 9, 2014 2:35am Nov 9, 2014 2:35am
hi fellows,

no one knows where will price go, but we can assume where will it go. try to find high probability levels. try to find out where it comes from. if your assumption is correct it will reach 99.99999999% comes to that level. my picture shows you the magnet power. think yourself . try to find out the edge of the magnet power. once the piece come to that orbit control you know where it will be settle. this is the secret.

hint: try to understand similarity system
  • #678
  • Nov 9, 2014 3:57am Nov 9, 2014 3:57am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} demarko7, These questions of yours are fair to ask, because if a person really wants to share, they share without reservations. A person who starts out as seemingly a sharing person, and follows up with repeated "...sorry, can't do..." and "...can't share..." is a person with something to hide. Think about this. The "sharing" can be genuine, or a gimmick. Genuine sharing is without reservations, so folks drawn in can best learn and possibly benefit. Gimmicky sharing is immediately - and rightfully so - subject to suspicious scrutiny, because...
I don't think you've read the first post in this thread.
Not about how much you win, but how much you loose
  • #679
  • Nov 9, 2014 3:59am Nov 9, 2014 3:59am
Quoting blueJ
{quote} this is how that turned out..... {image} Yes your levels were hit, all cleared.... but entry is vague, stop if any is vague. I see some value though. I will investigate further. With a good entry, those take profit areas were pretty good, like on that news spike. Of course before it spiked up it spiked down... But with a good entry on that chart, those levels for taking profit would be a big help. Aloha. {image}
Yes, one has to master the entry. When you do this, all you will see is
Not about how much you win, but how much you loose
  • #680
  • Nov 9, 2014 3:13pm Nov 9, 2014 3:13pm
hi ullen,

once again i thanks a lot for thinking myself to find how can defeat the forex trading. you pushed me to find this one. you are very intelegent one. now i am here for one conclution from the attached one. how would you manage this conditions. only with mm or somthing with different stac parameters or with ds.........
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