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  • #881
  • Edited Nov 8, 2014 3:47am Nov 7, 2014 2:49pm | Edited Nov 8, 2014 3:47am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Patron, There is no "best" here at the Sonic R. System thread. We all work to improve and we all have good and bad "events". Loeil was following his "hybrid" system wherein he focused on what he saw as larger TF volume clues as to whether the market was gaining bullish or bearish intent "in the background". He only considered volume on larger TFs as valid. His stated opinion was that lower TF volume was an undependable source of clues. Volume is a very important source of clues. Sometimes they stand out on the larger TFs and often the lower...
And this is the opinion of someone who could lose 5000 pips in one week. It's absurd. No trader consistently does that.
Please do not teach those things that do not benefit anyone.

When you enter this thread. Please, do it with all humility itself. Here, you can not threaten anyone, nor deport. Do not come here to fill your ego. That does not bring us anything.

When you come here, bring good things, as I did in your thread, since the greatest humility.
Do not come and wasting our time with your personal affairs.

Come and talk about FOREX and shares, and, above all, learn.
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  • #882
  • Edited Nov 8, 2014 3:39am Nov 7, 2014 3:04pm | Edited Nov 8, 2014 3:39am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Patron, There is no "best" here at the Sonic R. System thread. We all work to improve and we all have good and bad "events". Loeil was following his "hybrid" system wherein he focused on what he saw as larger TF volume clues as to whether the market was gaining bullish or bearish intent "in the background". He only considered volume on larger TFs as valid. His stated opinion was that lower TF volume was an undependable source of clues. Volume is a very important source of clues. Sometimes they stand out on the larger TFs...
When loeil triumphed with their trades, tah spoke of him as the example product system sonic goodness. It has been forgotten, now speaks of his "hybrid" system. What happens here?
When all went well, loeil was a "sonic -er" for you product better system of FF. Now he is a man who was passing by, with a hybrid system. What it sounds to me that? Who are you kidding?
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  • #883
  • Edited Nov 8, 2014 11:13am Nov 7, 2014 3:56pm | Edited Nov 8, 2014 11:13am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Patron, There is no "best" here at the Sonic R. System thread. We all work to improve and we all have good and bad "events". Loeil was following his "hybrid" system wherein he focused on what he saw as larger TF volume clues as to whether the market was gaining bullish or bearish intent "in the background". He only considered volume on larger TFs as valid. His stated opinion was that lower TF volume was an undependable source of clues. Volume is a very important source of clues. Sometimes they stand out on the larger TFs and often the lower...
Did you come here to tell me the method of trading loeil?
Or the use of volume?

You're wrong. You can not explain anything to the world of FOREX, because you are not a trader.

A trader never speak or act like you, from arrogance.
A trader is not sectarian but independent.
A trader does not baptize self, with no other finish "-er" name.
A trader does not threaten anyone, but he is kind and respectful.
A trader does not impose ideas, but shares.
A trader does not positive or negative discrimination; but listens.
A trader uses the market not making it up.
A trader respects their capital.
A trader assumes its responsibilities, will not yield to the ghosts (MMs or Robber Banks).
A trader makes money, do not play the lottery.

Etc etc etc ..

Sorry for my tone. Just trying to express, in their frequency so you understand me. Normally I would not express in this way.
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  • #884
  • Nov 7, 2014 7:05pm Nov 7, 2014 7:05pm
Quoting Patron
{quote}

A trader does not threaten anyone, but listens and respect.
A trader does not impose ideas, but shares.
A trader does not positive or negative discrimination; but listens.
A trader uses the market not making it up.
A trader respects their capital.
A trader assumes its responsibilities, will not yield to the "MMs".
A trader makes money, do not play the lottery.
The best qualities we can find in a TRUE TRADER..... So how many of us here are in this category?
  • #885
  • Nov 7, 2014 9:26pm Nov 7, 2014 9:26pm
this is great trhead..want to learn something about scalp
  • #886
  • Edited 1:37am Nov 8, 2014 1:27am | Edited 1:37am
Advance Development of DSS

This is my best view from my perspective to see our self and the market...and this is one of the best advance development here for DSS (Dynamic Scalp &Swing System)

Since I am focus on Forex Trading & the development of analysis with DSS ....then to sharing idea and listening others idea too in comfort place here...

The most key point and never ending process is "change" and in term market it is "dynamic". If i want to be successful trader i will follow all the way market move with confident, But i realize the market is not so"easy" to follow...there is a room for deviation -term in statistic --margin of error(wrong analysis/trapped the direction/drawdown etc).

Some issue regarding the term of margin error will or might be saved by high leverage, good money management, good emotion handling, & factor X (luck)...all of them have been discuss a lot and valuable here in FF...

How big % of margin error is depend of our trading style (or situation-like aggressive or conservative, have limitation of FIFO rules or not)...so basically its our self game...and its could be change depend on ourself setting and willingness.

The best issue for me here is the right market analysis - right money management and right emotion...and how to handle when we have situation on margin of error situation (draw down/wrong & trapped)...if only i am the person fast satisfied i will just stand still in comfort zone with DSS scalp only (with discipline ---its more than enough to make money)....

This is the most hot issue every traders face everyday every minute...

If you all feel what i feel then i know you all agree to share the idea here or wherever place you like to share...OR you are the kind lazy person and selfishness that to follow in the "save range" take the every benefit-take free signal-take free analysis...and then take money from market... (its ok and right ...since its yours choice ...and no bother anyone....xo xo xo.... i am the kind person like that before )

As the DSS thread is to sharing idea in open minded situation...here is the progress i fell and i see now:
For Scalp to make money---Have covered very well (proven with example) with DSS OR have covered by Patron and other members with example and all their way like CT in 1M TF, using of RSI etc....if you like to asking we are will answer our best.

For Swing--we have tried all effort to analysis market and how to handle such unexpected situation. By all process its enrich our experience and our reference too...its quick way to learn...

So, i f you all want to join and feel the taste of quick learning ...once again take a action to share ...here or wherever you like....

We all know the statement in forex business "past data will not represent future result". I dont agree at some point..."Past data will represent our future account"....LOL.

One BOLT POINT i concern now....HOW IF I TOLD YOU (this is SONIC statement direct to me on GU pair several weeks ago on Sonic thread) that DSS trapped on free live signal for trade....or unnecessary "competition" with others...

Sharp point and sharp target and no "henky pengky" is my way.

Happy Reading & Happy Weekend All
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  • #887
  • Nov 8, 2014 1:39am Nov 8, 2014 1:39am
Quoting franktiger
this is great trhead..want to learn something about scalp

we will learning each other, no one perfect ...tq
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  • #888
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:12am Nov 8, 2014 3:12am
Quoting franktiger
this is great trhead..want to learn something about scalp
Welcome, franktiger! But it will cost you your 2 cents!
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  • #889
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:13am Nov 8, 2014 3:13am
Quoting sam30
Advance Development of DSS This is my best view from my perspective to see our self and the market...and this is one of the best advance development here for DSS (Dynamic Scalp &Swing System) Since I am focus on Forex Trading & the development of analysis with DSS ....then to sharing idea and listening others idea too in comfort place here... The most key point and never ending process is "change" and in term market it is "dynamic". If i want to be successful trader i will follow all the way market move with confident, But i realize...
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  • #890
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:25am Nov 8, 2014 3:25am
Quoting jimisan
{quote} The best qualities we can find in a TRUE TRADER..... So how many of us here are in this category?
Thanks for your support, jimisan.

Where were we? Ah yes .... Well my children are all married. Two of them are traders. I spent three years teaching them, (almost killed me trouble, lol).

And now. I'm waiting for the birth of a grandchild, for story reading, play with them, well ... live what is life calmly and peacefully.
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  • #891
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:42am Nov 8, 2014 3:42am
Quoting Patron
{quote} Thanks for your support, jimisan. Where were we? Ah yes .... Well my children are all married. Two of them are traders. I spent three years teaching them, (almost killed me trouble, lol). And now. I'm waiting for the birth of a grandchild, for story reading, play with them, well ... live what is life calmly and peacefully.
That's great that all your children are married. As for me.....only one got married and I've just become a grandafter forthnight ago..... Have to wait a couple more years for story telling and playing with her.....Hehehe.

Well, have a pleasant weekend and fun with your family..... Be happy always.....
  • #892
  • Nov 8, 2014 3:52am Nov 8, 2014 3:52am
Quoting jimisan
{quote} That's great that all your children are married. As for me.....only one got married and I've just become a grandafter forthnight ago..... Have to wait a couple more years for story telling and playing with her.....Hehehe. Well, have a pleasant weekend and fun with your family..... Be happy always.....
Four nights? That is wonderful. A Touch of Spice. Congrats!
Happy weekend.
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  • #893
  • Edited 5:34am Nov 8, 2014 5:08am | Edited 5:34am
Quoting traderathome
{quote} Patron, There is no "best" here at the Sonic R. System thread. We all work to improve and we all have good and bad "events". Loeil was following his "hybrid" system wherein he focused on what he saw as larger TF volume clues as to whether the market was gaining bullish or bearish intent "in the background". He only considered volume on larger TFs as valid. His stated opinion was that lower TF volume was an undependable source of clues. Volume is a very important source of clues. Sometimes...
¿TF?

Your show it, almost daily, that your use of the timeframes, is doubtful, throwing error.
I read where you use your own publications monthly TF vs TF M15 or M5 TF or TFM1 and viceveresa.

You do not have to blame. Nobody has taught you, or you did not learn that fractals can only relate to each other with higher or lower order IMMEDIATELY.

This does not mean you can not relate to M15 H1 or H4 in intraday trading, because TF is not an exact correspondence with fractals.
But common sense (or what should be the first rule of any system) makes it clear that the distance we see a fractal monthly TF, and we see a fractal TF M15 or smaller, is too large to be helpful to intraday trader. And there is not a correspondence immediately order them.

"Monthly TF" can relate, weekly or daily TF. Beyond that, I do not think there is a fractal immediate correspondence with other TFs.

So when you learn how to properly use the TF then argüyes with them.

But you call these things; "..... kitchen sinks!"

I make these clarifications from the greatest respect for the readers of this thread, are not lost and understand.

I do not know why it has come to my mind, the word "Inquisition"?
Yes those condemning everything they did not understand.
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  • #894
  • Nov 8, 2014 6:56am Nov 8, 2014 6:56am
Quoting sam30
despite play scalp for fuel equity...lol. SWING in action EU big picture....till end of year(monthly) 12730...is the king key level seing now....will only sell below that and buy above it level target @ yellow horizontal line {image}
One month ago...EU (short bias)
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  • #895
  • Edited 12:25pm Nov 8, 2014 12:03pm | Edited 12:25pm
Quoting Patron
{quote} AUDUSD Daily Finally, there was what you expected, the engulfing daily candle .. long... {image}
AUDUSD H4.

We have an engulfing on Daily timeframe. However, we see an "inverted hammer" on H4.
And if we continue down the time frame, perhaps most bearish signs arise (we are still inside the bearish channel).
I decided to leave a long trade, because of the possibility that the market exploited the weekend, breaking the channel to the north.
If it does not, I will adopt, in smaller timeframes, measures sufficient coverage to protect my capital (hedging).

Do not forget, this pair remains bearish. Therefore, any trade against the prevailing trend, it must be properly protected.
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  • #896
  • Edited 2:35pm Nov 9, 2014 4:27am | Edited 2:35pm
Quoting Patron
{quote} ¿TF? Your show it, almost daily, that your use of the timeframes, is doubtful, throwing error. I read where you use your own publications monthly TF vs TF M15 or M5 TF or TFM1 and viceveresa. You do not have to blame. Nobody has taught you, or you did not learn that fractals can only relate to each other with higher or lower order IMMEDIATELY. This does not mean you can not relate to M15 H1 or H4 in intraday trading, because TF is not an exact correspondence with fractals. But common sense (or what should be the first rule of any system)...
FRACTALS

For friends of this thread, understand in a way very simplified what I mean when I talk about the relationship between fractals of higher and lower
order, I'll leave here a very simple example that illustrate largely the idea or concept.

The image shows a simple fractal structure, similar to that of a plant, a tree, bronchi, a circulatory system, etc ...
Enormous liquidity markets (and the greatest of all is the FOREX) adopt this fractal nature.
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Fractals are interrelated from higher order to lower order immediately, and vice versa.

Thus we see in the picture, than blue areas are immediately connected to the green areas, and to areas of fuchsia.
We can also see that the blue areas are more remote, areas of yellow and brown, and therefore they receive less influence, and vice versa.

If we imagine that the areas of blue, green and fuchsia are the areas most frequented by trading intraday trader, it must move well between these
structures, to know where it is located.

Thus, the trader recognize trends and patterns in their right degree, and its relationship with fractals next higher order.

Trading platforms give us "timeframes". They do not give us "fractals". We use the "timeframe" as "pseudo-fractal" to approach the market.

But here is, again, the "common sense" or what should be the first rule of any system or strategy. And common sense will find a relationship between fractals and timeframes.

Sure we can talk more about this issue, which is useful for the trader. But let future situations take out this issue to light.
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  • #897
  • Edited 2:41pm Nov 9, 2014 6:02am | Edited 2:41pm
Quoting Patron
This double top, took over 40 days to resolve. It did not in 40 hours, no. That's why I always insist on the fractal nature of the market. To keep things in perspective, where we are. A trend that took over 40 days to form, does not change in 40 minutes, or 40 hours. That is common sense. {image}
Indicators

The candlestick, moving averages, oscillators, indicators are the best known.
Critics say the indicators are lagging tools.

Sure, the speedometer of a car, is a lagging indicator, first certain speed is reached, and then, this is reflected in the speedometer. However, at the same time the speedometer passes us objectively decision making, because advise us our speeding, for example. And so, thanks to this "lagging" indicator, we decided to slow down.

So in reality, the indicators are not as "laggards" but give us objectivity, ahead of our subjectivity.

That said, I normally use Japanese candlestick, moving averages and RSI, allowing me to complete, at a glance, all information provided by S & R, trendlines, patterns, sessions, correlations between pairs, wave analysis, etc ...

The candlestick show the Price Action. Moving averages show the market condition, in their degree. The RSI in my case, I use it to compare the latest wave chart with the last wave of RSI.
Sometimes I need to do a recount, beyond the last wave. So to simplify the task (as I do with the RSI, for the last wave), use an indicator, "lagging" and "advanced" at a time, depending on how you use it.
This indicator is "AWESOME" (MACD is also useful, providing similar results).
A complete impulse wave, consists of about 144 candles in the same grade. So I look for the appropriate timeframe to these proportions, and put the awesome to help me to simplify counting waves.
The technique to compare peak wave with awesome highs or macd, the will see in specific cases if the analysis requires using.

Long ago, I programmed my own indicators. But I realized that it was not worth it, simply because the rest of the traders did not use them. It is best to use what others are using, if you want to understand them better, and that's more useful for trading, that programming complicated and sophisticated indicators that you'll use only. In my opinion, the sophisticated and complex indicators do have good use for robots. But man does not need them.
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  • #898
  • Nov 9, 2014 7:49am Nov 9, 2014 7:49am
Quoting Patron
{quote} Indicators The candlestick, moving averages, oscillators, indicators are the best known. Critics say the indicators are lagging tools. Sure, the speedometer of a car, is a lagging indicator, first certain speed is reached, and then, this is reflected in the speedometer. However, at thesame time the speedometer passes us objectively decision making, because advise us our speeding, for example. And so, thanks to this "lagging" indicator, we decided to slow down. So in reality, the indicators are not as "laggards" but give us objectivity, ahead...
Will hear your next valuable sharing and experience on how to use indi and tools...

in regards of all the followers here ... many thanks.
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  • #899
  • Nov 9, 2014 8:20am Nov 9, 2014 8:20am


I would like to share...about "Value Charts" and " Price Action"

Here is one of the source...please read and give us your opinion ...on how we find the right way and simple way to catch the term of "value charts" since we all well know "Price Action". Then to improve our trading....

Anyone could help please...is "value charts" no value at all OR its important but we dunno how to use it? ...or how to get the value chart indicators? ....Is it step-back or forward step

Thanks a lot.

PS: for temporary (this week)...i will be a lazy traders.. i have to learn something and....i will be just seeing free live signal here & all around in FF ...will follow if i like and get advantage from that ...effortless.
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  • #900
  • Nov 9, 2014 11:40am Nov 9, 2014 11:40am
Quoting Patron
{quote} Indicators The candlestick, moving averages, oscillators, indicators are the best known. Critics say the indicators are lagging tools. Sure, the speedometer of a car, is a lagging indicator, first certain speed is reached, and then, this is reflected in the speedometer. However, at thesame time the speedometer passes us objectively decision making, because advise us our speeding, for example. And so, thanks to this "lagging" indicator, we decided to slow down. So in reality, the indicators are not as "laggards" but give us objectivity, ahead...
Thanks Patron .
As you mentioned about resistance areas I did again went to different time periods and put resistance arias ( for Im not that professional I just focus on eurusd for now ) and your note is correct . Base on different approaches there are lags however knowing major resistances help for best accurate trading . Now with new vision I found that for change of trend in different time periods lesser time periods should be in same direction . For example now I see in m15 , m5 and m1 there will be a down move before rising because h4 and weekly are coming back from a resistance they heat before and base on my momentums H4 daily and weekly are now more in mood to go up so a little down and a long up is what I expected now . The experience you have with Awesome oscillator and RSI is same like what I have with momentum of course and things one can read from his method surly cannot be read by someone without that one experience for reasons does not need to be reminded for us again . One is good in this another is good in that .
Yeap ! As in mathematics you cant learn more advance formulas like integrating and logarithm here one cant ignore resistance/support lines . Now things are crystal clear for me thanks to all friends like you and my method is more mature and accurate , as I have to expect changes near resistances
When I called you genius I told you I know one when I see him , You may not be millionaire now but in few month or years WE will be mark my words
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