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  • #11,461
  • Nov 2, 2014 7:38pm Nov 2, 2014 7:38pm
Quoting jimsterk
Hi Kiads and Zelo, You two go too fast, I have a lot of stuff to catch up. One thing I am worried is that the sample data(=n^2) is large and we need to work with (n+1) increasing or decreasing sequences. I think n=2 is not large enough. (I am not sure though) If we use n=3, we have cal <- function(tri, da){ trials = tri res <- numeric(4) for (j in 3:6){ # 3-open, 4-high, 5-low, 6-close success = 0 for (i in 1:trials){ data <- da x = data[(ii+9)),j] if ( ((x[1]<x[2] && x[2]<x[3] && x[3]<x[4]) || (x[1]>x[2] && x[2]>x[3] && x[3]>x[4])) || ((x[2]<x[3]...
Thank you Jimsterk, Zelo, Kiads, NorthTrader and all of you that contribute in this probability calculation, and of course to Eurusdd for his generosity in sharing this great concepts. I am trying to understand what you all wrote at the moment, will try to contribute later if i find it ...

I am realize that TrZ concept given by Eurusdd is very powerful. If i look at big enough TF, it seems EU will go lower, there is interesting tz/ In this case around 2425. May be i am wrong, but looking at Historical data at my MT4 platform, some pairs are still weak, including AU, NU and EU. They will go down before swing up, but it seems EU will swing higher. May be i am wrong mates, want to say that this is not a call mate ..... just sharing my thought.
Similarity can change your life !
  • #11,462
  • Edited 11:57pm Nov 2, 2014 10:40pm | Edited 11:57pm
Quoting jimsterk
It is pretty amazing if we use real data. trials = 250030 res <- numeric(4) for (j in 3:6){ # 3-open, 4-high, 5-low, 6-close success = 0 for (i in 1:trials){ x = data5[(ii+4)),j] if ( ((x[1]<x[2] && x[2]<x[3]) || (x[1]>x[2] && x[2]>x[3])) || ((x[1]<x[3] && x[3]<x[5]) || (x[1]>x[3] && x[3]>x[5])) || ((x[2]<x[3] && x[3]<x[4]) || (x[2]>x[3] && x[3]>x[4])) || ((x[3]<x[4] && x[4]<x[5]) || (x[3]>x[4] && x[4]>x[5])) ) { success = success + 1 } } res[j-2] <- success / trials } res result is: 5-min eurusd (sample data =250030) [1] 0.9106187 0.9312443 0.9326561...
Hi Jimsterk,
Thanks for the code, but as i tried it, i got err message: "Error: object 'data5' not found". How can i put the bars data from MT4 / NT to buffer "data5" ?
If i do it manually, i think it will time consume ....

Quote
data5<-c (o,h,l,c) .......

Thanks in advance.

Edit:
Does any one have used this (MT4 - R connection) ? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=260422
Or any othersimple example of using NT-R connection is also ok, thanks
Similarity can change your life !
  • #11,463
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:05pm Nov 2, 2014 11:05pm
I a only on the 10th page. Checking on the latest posts... It seems that the system has evolved very much. Are we still on the similarity system?
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  • #11,464
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:40pm Nov 2, 2014 11:40pm
Folks I've read this thread 2 times and am going in over key points as I try and evolve my trading methods to the ideas presented here so I hope I don't come across as someone trying to be spoon fed. Just to double check the following: there is no indi that shows the statistics of Mid bar TZ? I know about the TZ indi with the yellow/red default display of tz developing, but is there one that would show the probability of a hit within h bars for Mid bar zones? Thanks all and I apologize if this has been asked but I don't believe it has, I'm currently going through the attachments looking for what I described. Thanks everyone this thread is a real diamond
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  • #11,465
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:44pm Nov 2, 2014 11:44pm
Quoting Dabestone
I a only on the 10th page. Checking on the latest posts... It seems that the system has evolved very much. Are we still on the similarity system?
There are 2 concepts that are related each other: Similarity & TRZ (Transient Recurrent Zone). If we read the first post (#1) at the first page, we will find this :

For the theory of transient zones, go to http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...34603&page=286 (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=434603&page=286) => (page 286).

That is for transient recurrent zone concept.
If you are looking for Similarity concept, just read from page #1.

Hope this helps.
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  • #11,466
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:48pm Nov 2, 2014 11:48pm
Quoting Rparm
Folks I've read this thread 2 times and am going in over key points as I try and evolve my trading methods to the ideas presented here so I hope I don't come across as someone trying to be spoon fed. Just to double check the following: there is no indi that shows the statistics of Mid bar TZ? I know about the TZ indi with the yellow/red default display of tz developing, but is there one that would show the probability of a hit within h bars for Mid bar zones? Thanks all and I apologize if this has been asked but I don't believe it has, I'm currently...
If you have coding experiences, just look for Kprsa's Recurrent Statistic code (you can find it at attachment top right area of each page). I think it will help you to get what you want.
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  • #11,467
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:52pm Nov 2, 2014 11:52pm
Quoting tomitom
{quote} Dear Dtlase, the circle is not K.... K is height of a bar... H is width of bar. for example h=8 means, there are 4 bars in the past and we are waiting 4 reccurrent or trainsient bars in the future...(4+4=8 bars=H)

Thank you tomitom,

This might be my first post but i have been following this thread as a guest from the beginning. I know my h. I just want to know if we can make the height of the fully formed h-TZ as our K, since the upper zone is the recurrent zone in the example.

Thank you all..
  • #11,468
  • Nov 2, 2014 11:54pm Nov 2, 2014 11:54pm
Quoting Kiads
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  • #11,469
  • Nov 3, 2014 12:03am Nov 3, 2014 12:03am
Quoting jackprobe
{quote} If you have coding experiences, just look for Kprsa's Recurrent Statistic code (you can find it at attachment top right area of each page). I think it will help you to get what you want.
Thanks for the help I completely forgot about that indi!
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  • #11,470
  • Nov 3, 2014 1:27am Nov 3, 2014 1:27am
For those that have subscribed to me, let me please apologize for some posts I have made. There is a thread here that is a number one widow maker between newbies and their money. Every time someone figures this out, I have to reply. Again, sorry.

Now back the topic. I would like to discuss "k".

To me, k is an array of prices just above and just below what the trader has defined as a PTZ. In other words, when a trader defines a PTZ on the left hand side, the right hand side continues to develop. If a trader has chosen a good h, then they can make pips every time they see that price has dipped below k. Because with the right h, the PTZ is going to be retested 9 out of 10 tries. Moreover, the retest will penetrate k.

The 64,000 dollar question is, what is k? How do we define k?

My theorem is that k is the array of prices that have been recurrent on the left hand side of h.

Another way to say this is that on the left hand side of h, price tried to penetrate the price point that we must have to define h, but failed to do so. But it did try.

That array of prices we can call k. I won't bother with a chart because I think what eurusdd is trying to do is move this group away from visual patterns per se, and onto statistical patterns. A price chart is a very crude way to express statistical patterns.

But if we have to use a price chart, we can look at wicks to define k. Everybody's k will be different because we are a global society.

I hope that someone got what I am trying to say, if not, it's gibberish, but I will still try to contribute.
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  • #11,471
  • Nov 3, 2014 3:21am Nov 3, 2014 3:21am
Quoting tomitom
{quote} for example h=8 means, there are 4 bars in the past and we are waiting 4 reccurrent or trainsient bars in the future...(4+4=8 bars=H)
Hi tomitom,

are you sure with h?

http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7678605#post7678605
  • #11,472
  • Nov 3, 2014 4:07am Nov 3, 2014 4:07am
Quoting hilavoku
{quote} Hi tomitom, are you sure with h? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=7678605#post7678605
Hi Hilavoku, this is the reason why some of people do not understand subject. Math Prepositions+Low english levels(for example me) = People WHO do not understand... About h, yes i am sure !!! Let me explain with a SIMPLE LANGUAGE:
1) You are stating your h from your indicator.
2) That means, you had a bar past (h/2) and you are waiting a future (h/2) (h/2+h/2 =your h). For example, there is an increasing trend and your h is 8. Assume that you lived 4 increased bar until touching up zone line and you saw a new bar(your everything, your main bar) where you saw a resistance and closed before line. Under this condition, you should assume that, you will live a reccurent zone(decrease) until completing your next 4 bars IF one of your 4 bars will not breach your zone. if it breaches, you will live transient zone.
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  • #11,473
  • Nov 3, 2014 4:21am Nov 3, 2014 4:21am
Quoting Kiads
{quote} One of the best 'Halloween theme chart' good job my friend... let me add some background... {image}
I like this theme mate very nice. Happy Halloween ....

Quoting jackprobe
{quote} Hi Jimsterk, Thanks for the code, but as i tried it, i got err message: "Error: object 'data5' not found". How can i put the bars data from MT4 / NT to buffer "data5" ? If i do it manually, i think it will time consume .... {quote} Thanks in advance. Edit: Does any one have used this (MT4 - R connection) ? http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?t=260422 Or any othersimple example of using NT-R connection is also ok, thanks
I think you need to know how to import csv file to R and do calculation with R. From MT4 or NT, there is a way to save bars data as csv. Just an idea mate.
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  • #11,474
  • Nov 3, 2014 4:36am Nov 3, 2014 4:36am
Thanks for the answer tomitom.

But EUSUSDD cleary states that when you choose a h you take the last h bars into consideration for your PTZ and also the next h bars into the future for possible confirmation.

EURUSDD:
The 5-transient prices are represented by the yellow/red zones. Very few of them.

The 5 means that within the bars where those prices occur, none of the next 5 bars, behind or in front of the bar in question, passed through those prices.


So I'm sure that we are looking h bars into the past and h bars into the future....

see you
hila


PS: now back into my dark corner learning stoch/BB similarity.
  • #11,475
  • Nov 3, 2014 5:33am Nov 3, 2014 5:33am
Quoting hilavoku
Thanks for the answer tomitom. But EUSUSDD cleary states that when you choose a h you take the last h bars into consideration for your PTZ and also the next h bars into the future for possible confirmation. EURUSDD: The 5-transient prices are represented by the yellow/red zones. Very few of them. The 5 means that within the bars where those prices occur, none of the next 5 bars, behind or in front of the bar in question, passed through those prices. So I'm sure that we are looking h bars into the past and h bars into the future.... see you hila...
Hila, under this condition, i wonder that, how will you find perfect h? Maybe you found and it fits 1 time,2 times... what about others? Many people telling it is secret, okay, but it is impossible to find perfect also correct h under this condition... If someone is thinking he/she found h, look at your charts, are you sure won't you change it when you got a loss on your account???
Thanks
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  • #11,476
  • Nov 3, 2014 7:17am Nov 3, 2014 7:17am
Hello.

Wanting to know if I'm right.

We can enter trades at the point marked? this in theory is "k"?
We should expect to see 24 candles if not cross up the TZ zone if the sail number 24 crossed the TZ area up and closed, it would be a clear signal to buy?

I await your reply, thanks!
Natalia.
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  • #11,477
  • Nov 3, 2014 7:19am Nov 3, 2014 7:19am
For those that still didn't get it for some reason, here's a live example from today on EURUSD:

1- Whoever thinks H is a secret is delusional and is living in fantasy land. I don't think the value of a correct H could be any clearer. It has been discussed here thousands of times for tens of different systems.
My H value for this example is 30 because on this particular chart (currency + TF) you need a minimum H=30 to satisfy the condition of 97% RZ vs. 3% TZ.

2- Extend the previously formed TZ with light blue Horizontal lines.

3- Wait for this area to be broken

4- Expect a revisit in the next H after the initial break

5- Go buy yourself a drink with the money you have made with this simple trade There are 10s of those trades everyday, please don't buy yourself a drink after each one & later accuse me of making you an alcoholic.

6- This is a powerful tool that can make you lots of profits, but the goal is to develop it. We are sharing so that u will share and test your ideas too to make this system better.

Best,
Jay
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  • #11,478
  • Nov 3, 2014 7:25am Nov 3, 2014 7:25am
Quoting FX-Jay
For those that still didn't get it for some reason, here's a live example from today on EURUSD: 1- Whoever thinks H is a secret is delusional and is living in fantasy land. I don't think the value of a correct H could be any clearer. It has been discussed here thousands of times for tens of different systems. My H value for this example is 30 because on this particular chart (currency + TF) you need a minimum H=30 to satisfy the condition of 97% RZ vs. 3% TZ. 2- Extend the previously formed TZ with light blue Horizontal lines. 3- Wait for this area...
Jeeez I award the Victoria Cross to FX Jay for his patience and strength in the face of great, ahem lets say stubboness. Regards Orid peter
  • #11,479
  • Nov 3, 2014 7:28am Nov 3, 2014 7:28am
Quoting FX-Jay
For those that still didn't get it for some reason, here's a live example from today on EURUSD: 1- Whoever thinks H is a secret is delusional and is living in fantasy land. I don't think the value of a correct H could be any clearer. It has been discussed here thousands of times for tens of different systems. My H value for this example is 30 because on this particular chart (currency + TF) you need a minimum H=30 to satisfy the condition of 97% RZ vs. 3% TZ. 2- Extend the previously formed TZ with light blue Horizontal lines. 3- Wait for this area...
Man, I really like your charts FX-Jay.
  • #11,480
  • Nov 3, 2014 7:29am Nov 3, 2014 7:29am
Quoting FX-Jay
For those that still didn't get it for some reason, here's a live example from today on EURUSD: 1- Whoever thinks H is a secret is delusional and is living in fantasy land. I don't think the value of a correct H could be any clearer. It has been discussed here thousands of times for tens of different systems. My H value for this example is 30 because on this particular chart (currency + TF) you need a minimum H=30 to satisfy the condition of 97% RZ vs. 3% TZ. 2- Extend the previously formed TZ with light blue Horizontal lines. 3- Wait for this area...
recently PhatoriGal brought this quote of Einstein to my attention, and it is applicable here

"If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough."
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