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  • #11,201
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:21am Oct 29, 2014 7:21am
Quoting DavidRP
{quote} Please refute this " And why the high of the next bar can not be between 1.2222 and 1.2211? Imagine candle with the high at 1.2222 closes at 1.2215. Why the next candle (opening at 1.2215) can not have a high at 1.2220? "
I don't understand the maths at all.

But this is what I have been able to decipher - and I come to no conclusions, just feeding in the numbers:

Data:
Highs of 4 bars: 1.2344, 1.2566, 1.2211, 1.2222
Domain = [n sqred + 1]
Subsequence = [n + 1]

If we set n = 2 then
Domain = 2 squared + 1 = 5
Subsequence = 2 + 1 = 3

Reading this example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s%E2%80%93Szekeres_theorem)yields this experiment....
Increasing Subsequence:
1.2344, 1.2566
1.2211, 1.2222
that's 2 increasing subsequences, taking the given order

Decreasing Subsequence:
1.2566, 1.2211
1.2566, 1.2222
1.2344, 1.2222
1,2344, 1.2211
that's 4 decreasing subsequences, taking the given order
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #11,202
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:23am Oct 29, 2014 7:23am
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} I don't understand the maths at all. But this is what I have been able to decipher - and I come to no conclusions, just feeding in the numbers: Data: Highs of 4 bars: 1.2344, 1.2566, 1.2211, 1.2222 Domain = [n sqred + 1] Subsequence = [n + 1] If we set n = 2 then Domain = 2 squared + 1 = 5 Subsequence = 2 + 1 = 3 Reading this example (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erd%C5%91s%E2%80%93Szekeres_theorem)yields this experiment.... Increasing Subsequence: 1.2344, 1.2566 1.2211, 1.2222 that's 2 increasing subsequences, taking the given...
vlad take a look of my last post. it's clear the subsequence has not be sorted, so the last high can have many many values between the others values.
  • #11,203
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:24am Oct 29, 2014 7:24am
Quoting kprsa
{quote} If I don't get a heart attack today, I am there for you! k
I will restart your heart with Orid's tools if I have too Will I be needing more textbooks on math

Er what topic of math does this fall under exactly? You know like probabilities, linear algebra or something?
I want more brain power!
  • #11,204
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:26am Oct 29, 2014 7:26am
Quoting Eurusdd
{quote} I really do not get your problem. This example is for a the case where the sequence is listed and subsequence defined linearly on n. Lol. What is your stress. the application of the theorem or the special case i represented? That is why I stated the theorem in the form below so that sorting out is eliminated. {image}
Please Sir EURUSDD, for the shake of my signature bellow..
do you see in my example picture here,any of implementation of your mentioned theorem.. ?

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Thanks in advance for your plain English explanations
MTH
  • #11,205
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:26am Oct 29, 2014 7:26am
The real reason for submitting this is to find a probabilistic statement for a listed sequence where all sub-sequences in the statement are also listed.
If the probability is high enough, game on!!!
  • #11,206
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:31am Oct 29, 2014 7:31am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} I will restart your heart with Orid's tools if I have too Will I be needing more textbooks on math Er what topic of math does this fall under exactly? You know like probabilities, linear algebra or something?
CFD from what I'm gathering, it's a branch off the study of real numbers or Real Analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_analysis) which has a shitload of branches that I can hang myself from.
It's complex stuff that can be applied to computer science, graphics.... heck even a "Happy Ending" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Ending_problem)! For real! (no pun)

A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #11,207
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:33am Oct 29, 2014 7:33am
Quoting Eurusdd
The real reason for submitting this is to find a probabilistic statement for a listed sequence where all sub-sequences in the statement are also listed. If the probability is high enough, game on!!!
Fully agreed and understood!
Thanks!
k
  • #11,208
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:33am Oct 29, 2014 7:33am
Not all subsequences meet this condition, hence the probability is deduced
  • #11,209
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:37am Oct 29, 2014 7:37am
Quoting cfdtaleong
{quote} I will restart your heart with Orid's tools if I have too Will I be needing more textbooks on math Er what topic of math does this fall under exactly? You know like probabilities, linear algebra or something?
Haha, I can return the "favour" by recommend some mean books!
Yeah, probabilities!

k
  • #11,210
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:41am Oct 29, 2014 7:41am
I will come back in the future with my findings. Thank you all.
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  • #11,211
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:41am Oct 29, 2014 7:41am
Quoting tomitom
{quote} I am allways winner.
I am sure you are. Now go back to beating up your wife. Don't you just love the Turks! Love em...
  • #11,212
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:44am Oct 29, 2014 7:44am
Quoting Kiads
{quote} Please Sir EURUSDD, for the shake of my signature bellow.. do you see in my example picture here,any of implementation of your mentioned theorem.. ? {image} Thanks in advance for your plain English explanations MTH

Pleaseeee.....

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MTH
  • #11,213
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:52am Oct 29, 2014 7:52am
Quoting MAM.Trader
without any calculation I have already/only 2 options in anytime up or down {quote}
absolutely irrelevant statement. it is not about "up or down". EURUSDD is talking about the SEQUENCE (and its theory) - the core of any trend.
do yourself a favor - be recurrent and you have 97% chance of getting what is explained to you.
As Above, So Below
  • #11,214
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:56am Oct 29, 2014 7:56am
if its %97 reccurent why dont go & make millions & spending your time here for funny applications
%97 go and dot it

Quoting tashkent
{quote} absolutely irrelevant statement. it is not about "up or down". EURUSDD is talking about the SEQUENCE (and its theory) - the core of any trend. do yourself a favor - be recurrent and you have 97% chance of getting what is explained to you.
My Best Trade is Next Trade!
  • #11,215
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:58am Oct 29, 2014 7:58am
Quoting MAM.Trader
if its %97 reccurent why dont go & make millions & spending your time here for funny applications %97 go and dot it {quote}


peace
As Above, So Below
  • #11,216
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:58am Oct 29, 2014 7:58am
in mt thread I have explained wht is the real probility
its not even %50 whats in your hand

now before that blow a new one show up

GOD bless you

Quoting MAM.Trader
if its %97 reccurent why dont go & make millions & spending your time here for funny applications %97 go and dot it {quote}
My Best Trade is Next Trade!
  • #11,217
  • Oct 29, 2014 7:59am Oct 29, 2014 7:59am
assume that I am stupid dummy
can you please explain what is so strong about it

please explain me
Quoting burnssss
Uffff, very powerful. I have no words.
My Best Trade is Next Trade!
  • #11,218
  • Oct 29, 2014 8:00am Oct 29, 2014 8:00am
Quoting tashkent
{quote} absolutely irrelevant statement. it is not about "up or down". EURUSDD is talking about the SEQUENCE (and its theory) - the core of any trend. do yourself a favor - be recurrent and you have 97% chance of getting what is explained to you.
Haha, like that. Leave them alone. When we find something substantial later on, they will come running back. I will work on that probability and get back to you.
  • #11,219
  • Oct 29, 2014 8:04am Oct 29, 2014 8:04am
Quoting MAM.Trader
assume that I am stupid dummy can you please explain what is so strong about it please explain me {quote}
Let him be. Full member of the house. consistent!
  • #11,220
  • Oct 29, 2014 8:05am Oct 29, 2014 8:05am
you are missleading people here
but they are tend to misslead so you do
no blame on you

nothing will show up fantastic. I guarantee you from today
its just a sequental theorem then can give you compare with the actual price action to give you probability
fair

quantative traders using hunders of smiliar algorithms to build up a money making one

GL

Quoting Eurusdd
{quote} Haha, like that. Leave them alone. When we find something substantial later on, they will come running back. I will work on that probability and get back to you.
My Best Trade is Next Trade!
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