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  • #11,101
  • Edited 1:43pm Oct 27, 2014 1:31pm | Edited 1:43pm
If you have a problem with k.
Use this simple strategy:
martingale.

Go small first, if your k is wrong, get it right the second time in a recurrent zone!

On most time frames, the actual k is not too large. so if your martingale strategy is good, you can recover within a recurrent zone!
  • #11,102
  • Oct 27, 2014 2:18pm Oct 27, 2014 2:18pm
Quoting Eurusdd
If you have a problem with k. Use this simple strategy: martingale. Go small first, if your k is wrong, get it right the second time in a recurrent zone! On most time frames, the actual k is not too large. so if your martingale strategy is good, you can recover within a recurrent zone!
Dear Eurusdd welcome back,

On the long run martingale is deadly.

Can't we focus on historical data of these three variables by playing "h" values to find optimal "k";
1- Approaching ~3% transient zone percentage
2- Mean width of transient zone (k)
3- Probability of transient zone equal or less then k

If transient zone is around 3% where k became smaller on mean with respect to alternative other h values and mean k value for this h covers large sum of (~90%) already occurred transient zone widths then we should be close to optimal h...

Ooops i hope i could told what i thought...
  • #11,103
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:13pm Oct 27, 2014 3:13pm
martingale is a logical option to recover loss and make profit if one knows HOW to use it. It can be a constant component of an invincible system. if one does not know how to use the martingale, he must avoid it at any cost because it will kill the account faster than anything. this is all part of a trade management, which is absolutely the most important part of the trading.
As Above, So Below
  • #11,104
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:13pm Oct 27, 2014 3:13pm
Quoting Almondeyed
{quote} Dear Eurusdd welcome back, On the long run martingale is deadly. Can't we focus on historical data of these three variables by playing "h" values to find optimal "k"; 1- Approaching ~3% transient zone percentage 2- Mean width of transient zone (k) 3- Probability of transient zone equal or less then k If transient zone is around 3% where k became smaller on mean with respect to alternative other h values and mean k value for this h covers large sum of (~90%) already occurred transient zone widths then we should be close to optimal h... ...
I believe I said "if your martingale strategy is good....."
  • #11,105
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:16pm Oct 27, 2014 3:16pm
Quoting Eurusdd
{quote} I believe I said "if your martingale strategy is good....."
since you are all on mathematics i wonder it's there a way to cover all the drawdown produced by a martingale strategy?sorry for my english
  • #11,106
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:17pm Oct 27, 2014 3:17pm
yes, if your martingale is good you will never lose, until you blow your account i guess
  • #11,107
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:28pm Oct 27, 2014 3:28pm
well. I will say nothing further. some of you believe that martingale means you don't use stop-loss.

suppose you want to risk $100. you can set up a martingale strategy and still risk only $100.
I will not comment on this again. It is like repeating yourself!
  • #11,108
  • Oct 27, 2014 3:30pm Oct 27, 2014 3:30pm
Quoting Eurusdd
well. I will say nothing further. some of you believe that martingale means you don't use stop-loss. suppose you want to risk $100. you can set up a martingale strategy and still risk only $100. I will not comment on this again. It is like repeating yourself!
now clear...sorry
  • #11,109
  • Oct 27, 2014 5:04pm Oct 27, 2014 5:04pm
Another way to see the concept:

For a significant (conditional) # of candles:

ATR in pts
M1: 1.7
M5: 4.2... ok, how about per minute: 0.84
M15: 5.9... ok, how about per minute: 0.39

Hey, that's weird... going up a tf has decreased relative movement per unit of time by almost half... what would need to occur for this to be true? And what about M1 - if we consider that the base tf, what is the relative incidence of recurrence? Can we use these ratios for anything?
  • #11,110
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:04am Oct 28, 2014 5:04am
There are layers upon layers of stuff here. Even if you think you understand it all, take a break and read once again.

k
  • #11,111
  • Oct 28, 2014 5:51am Oct 28, 2014 5:51am
Yepp. And is so demanding that I need to fight not to give up hope. I must disrupt continually reading the thread(s) and start only on understanding the concept so far and what has been given till now.
  • #11,112
  • Oct 28, 2014 7:43am Oct 28, 2014 7:43am
Really, this thread is very interesting... Usual support and resistance points are named as tz,k,h....etc...The more, if we ask someone about the system, answer is: look at threads... This answer is true because i only see support,resistance and pivot points, no more...
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  • #11,113
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:18am Oct 28, 2014 8:18am
Quoting tomitom
Really, this thread is very interesting... Usual support and resistance points are named as tz,k,h....etc...The more, if we ask someone about the system, answer is: look at threads... This answer is true because i only see support,resistance and pivot points, no more...
Seriously dude?
  • #11,114
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:21am Oct 28, 2014 8:21am
Quoting tomitom
Really, this thread is very interesting... Usual support and resistance points are named as tz,k,h....etc...The more, if we ask someone about the system, answer is: look at threads... This answer is true because i only see support,resistance and pivot points, no more...
follow the flow
  • #11,115
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:23am Oct 28, 2014 8:23am
Quoting Rahimseven
{quote} Seriously dude?
Yes DUDE
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  • #11,116
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:29am Oct 28, 2014 8:29am
Quoting Atihun
{quote}
No matter how much you know, your words worth only as much as the other per
  • #11,117
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:39am Oct 28, 2014 8:39am
The more, people started with cycle bars and later turned to tz-tr and now martingale strategy... Please DECIDE ... If you are talking about tz-tr. please tell me difference from pivots-support and resistance points. Oh sorry for asking, i have to read thread
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  • #11,118
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:44am Oct 28, 2014 8:44am
  •  Neio
  • Joined Oct 2012 | Status: Can't think outside?Enlarge the box | 688 Posts
Quoting tomitom
The more, people started with cycle bars and later turned to tz-tr and now martingale strategy... Please DECIDE ... If you are talking about tz-tr. please tell me difference from pivots-support and resistance points. Oh sorry for asking, i have to read thread
If you can't be bothered to take the time out to read and understand the thread then it is probably best that you just go on believing that we are talking about support/resistance and pivot points.
An expert is a man who has made all the mistakes which can be made
  • #11,119
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:48am Oct 28, 2014 8:48am
Quoting Neio
{quote} If you can't be bothered to take the time out to read and understand the thread then it is probably best that you just go on believing that we are talking about support/resistance and pivot points.
I am sorry if i bothered someone. I am allways winner, just wanted to help... Please do not loose too much Sorry again.
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  • #11,120
  • Oct 28, 2014 8:54am Oct 28, 2014 8:54am
Quoting Neio
{quote} If you can't be bothered to take the time out to read and understand the thread then it is probably best that you just go on believing that we are talking about support/resistance and pivot points.
One more, you are talking about a ZONE... Where to start and where to finish... UNKNOWN except God and MM. If you are looking whole Picture, you can start martingale strategy in ZONE if you have a GOOD MARGIN. Thats all. If you are thinking about seeing future, you should be a good friend with MMs if you can meet.
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