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  • #181
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:06am Oct 23, 2014 2:06am
for example you need to have a different tz application to ranging and trending market. yesterday eurusd got inot trending market. alot of guys trading in range mode
made losses. tz is in account blowing mode
  • #182
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:07am Oct 23, 2014 2:07am
Quoting MAM.Trader
if more then 1 knows it is not secret anymore didnt your daddy tell you........! {quote}
the principle is not the secret. the principle is out. which is fine as you can see from eurusdds post i left here
  • #183
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:09am Oct 23, 2014 2:09am
vlad i hope i am not taking the thread off point. i think we should move this discussion to the similarity thread. im no more posting advanced stuff here.
vlad pls carry on with your aim of starting the thread
  • #184
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:16am Oct 23, 2014 2:16am
Quoting Freefox
Great idea for a thread vlad - I've subscribed I may have created the "Transient Zones" indicator but I've not managed to have a eureka moment yet and work out how to gain an advantage using it in trading. Attached is the indicator again for convenience and saves people searching around for it. Plus here is the original post I made where I talk about some of the features of it and usage, etc. http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...19#post7686119 Looking forward to this thread has I've found it very difficult with...
Hi Freefox
I asked this on the main Similarity thread, but realised without tagging you, you may not get to see it....

Cheers
Jim

"Hi all
When we trade, we are most interested in what is going to happen to the right of this moment, not the left.
Is anyone else interested in the recurrence stats and the building of TZ/RZ when we ignore the left and only look right?
Could you make your Indi able to ignore the left altogether Kprsa (i.e. able to select 0 for left)?
Would Freefox and/or Sciurus make their Indi's h-left and h-right independent and settable to 0?
Thanks for your consideration"
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...76#post7817976
He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help. Abraham Lincoln
  • #185
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:38am Oct 23, 2014 2:38am
guys/gals (secret holders)
when you have secrets in your hand who do you think will add more here
your secrets are yours but when the case the others, information should be public
not very smart

-- last post --
Quoting ephisi
vlad i hope i am not taking the thread off point. i think we should move this discussion to the similarity thread. im no more posting advanced stuff here. vlad pls carry on with your aim of starting the thread
My Best Trade is Next Trade!
  • #186
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:40am Oct 23, 2014 2:40am
Quoting Jim4x
{quote} Hi Freefox I asked this on the main Similarity thread, but realised without tagging you, you may not get to see it.... Cheers Jim "Hi all When we trade, we are most interested in what is going to happen to the right of this moment, not the left. Is anyone else interested in the recurrence stats and the building of TZ/RZ when we ignore the left and only look right? Could you make your Indi able to ignore the left altogether Kprsa (i.e. able to select 0 for left)? Would Freefox and/or Sciurus make their Indi's h-left and h-right independent...
Hi My Friend, in my personal opinion technically we can create that kind indicator, but principally we can't do that. I believe almost anything we do always base on history or references or previous experiences. 'Visually' maybe we can hide the left side, but on calculation inside the indicator, could you imagine how difficult to start count without anything to look at..?

best regard
MTH
  • #187
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:41am Oct 23, 2014 2:41am
The Secret is there is no secret.
Principles don't have Secrets cos they reveal Universal Truths...until they are disproved.


Implementations are different. These are methods, recipes, implementations, steps, interpretations.
These can be secret. They represent someone's value.

There is a big difference.
Saltwater got one aspect of the principle.
He was nowhere near a Secret Implementation....LITEChild showed this already.
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #188
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:46am Oct 23, 2014 2:46am
Sorry Vlad, I'll just make a brief response. There is some advice on "Similarity" to "Eurusdd" of what should be kept secret. Each of us must develop its own system based on your philosophy, and therefore keep secret what makes it different. I support this idea. I'll never share on a forum what should be secret. If we all had the same parameters and the same inputs then that system will be doomed to failure.
I hope people are aware also.
thank you very much
  • #189
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:54am Oct 23, 2014 2:54am
Quoting MAM.Trader
guys/gals (secret holders) when you have secrets in your hand who do you think will add more here your secrets are yours but when the case the others, information should be public not very smart -- last post -- {quote}
There are things shared here to make you think and learn for yourself. You dont get the philosophy. I quit
  • #190
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:57am Oct 23, 2014 2:57am
Quoting vlady1974
The Secret is there is no secret. Principles don't have Secrets cos they reveal Universal Truths...until they are disproved. Implementations are different. These are methods, recipes, implementations, steps, interpretations. These can be secret. They represent someone's value. There is a big difference. Saltwater got one aspect of the principle. He was nowhere near a Secret Implementation....LITEChild showed this already.
Great teacher! You always make it clear as usual. I wonder how you keep up with your day job. Lol
  • #191
  • Oct 23, 2014 2:58am Oct 23, 2014 2:58am
I believe all of you already know how to create trap effectively and that is how to make all of you believe only one thing in one time and in one direction.. to the trap of course..
  • #192
  • Oct 23, 2014 3:01am Oct 23, 2014 3:01am
Quoting burnssss
Sorry Vlad, I'll just make a brief response. There is some advice on "Similarity" to "Eurusdd" of what should be kept secret. Each of us must develop its own system based on your philosophy, and therefore keep secret what makes it different. I support this idea. I'll never share on a forum what should be secret. If we all had the same parameters and the same inputs then that system will be doomed to failure. I hope people are aware also. thank you very much
Exactly Burnsss!

This is why this thread doesn't have a How To or a Step By Step.
Ive just taken individual components and shared my thoughts on them.
How someone wants to put it together is their Secret.

But as Eurusdd said , the Freedom and Power of the Principles ( the components and their requisite phenomenon ) is at the heart of this Sacred Knowledge.... The Knowledge that an Individual can Express upon the Real World (ie. Trading)
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #193
  • Oct 23, 2014 3:04am Oct 23, 2014 3:04am
Here's a free Secret.
Not every UTZ has to be a failed retracement
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #194
  • Oct 23, 2014 3:08am Oct 23, 2014 3:08am
Quoting vlady1974
Here's a free Secret. Not every UTZ has to be a failed retracement
This post has to do with the lesson "eurusdd" yesterday. I'm not going to the mathematical development but with intrinsic message
  • #195
  • Oct 23, 2014 3:10am Oct 23, 2014 3:10am
I'm getting a lot of the TZs repaint! Why? Why? Why? So I figured its needs answering...

TZs need to and will repaint most of the time because price is predominately recurrent. I refer to them as Potential Transient Zones
I want more brain power!
  • #196
  • Oct 23, 2014 3:26am Oct 23, 2014 3:26am
Quoting vlady1974
Here's a free Secret. Not every UTZ has to be a failed retracement
Thank you for sharing. Trying to understand that. What do you mean with "failed" retracement. A failed retracement is not a retracement because price can only retrace along an impulse wave (swing). If a retracement fails, it means that price "retraced" to the swing high/low (starting point) or beyond.

Do you mean UTZ at retracement points can give some clues whether it is a true retracement or swing high/low retest?
the 3rd wave is the crowd's wave
  • #197
  • Oct 23, 2014 4:22am Oct 23, 2014 4:22am
Dear vlad and others,

I must say this similarity thread and this one are some kind of a journey, a bit like treasure hunting and very refreshing in the forex world.

Let say we take h=40, on H4 timeframe. I get a % of TZ around 3%, meaning that average we will have maximum 3 TZ in every 100 bars. Since a TZ would be confirmed after 40 bars, if no other TZ has started yet (within this last 40 bars), the probability of having at least one real TZ in the next 60 bar is increasing drastically .

I have the feeling it could help forecasting which prices are to be recurrent again, isn’t it ?

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  • #198
  • Oct 23, 2014 4:30am Oct 23, 2014 4:30am
And another one bites the dust...
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  • #199
  • Oct 23, 2014 4:32am Oct 23, 2014 4:32am
...and another. Just takes patience.
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  • #200
  • Edited 5:22am Oct 23, 2014 4:50am | Edited 5:22am
Hello here,

Sorry edit
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