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  • #121
  • Oct 19, 2014 3:26pm Oct 19, 2014 3:26pm
Quoting Proximus
{quote} Yep it was a mistake, i`ve seen many conspiracy videos, and i dont see how Fuld the CEO of Lehman would be in a better position now, than as a CEO of Lehman. His salary was about 22 million $ , i`m sure it's wealth grow really good. And by the bankruptcy he lost like 50 million in stocks, plus a few other millions in his real estates. So the crisis really cut his wallet, he lost his job and became infamous, was it worth it?. And most of the other big CEO's on wallstreet also lost half of their net worth. Why would they be so stupid to lose...

I never said CEO was in it. - he might have been or not!

I think it was a set up starting with "rule" changes back in the 1990.
These rules were in place since the 1928!!!!!
- and these rules have all been put back in place now by the way.
if these rules had been in place it COULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED and that is a fact
I think when this was put in place - they did not know or care it would be Lehman as the trigger.
it could have been any of 10 other companies or likely 7 banks.

I really do not want to go down this road so this will be my last post on this.
but this is a fact
the top 1% of the top 1% in the world have had the greatest increase in wealth since 2008
in all of history and that is a fact .

cheers
  • #122
  • Oct 19, 2014 4:39pm Oct 19, 2014 4:39pm
Quoting makototokyo
an amateur chef can use expensive ingredients to make a meal and a professional chef could make a better meal with cheap ingredients. it's up to the person's ability and brain to make most of the indicators.

I really like your illustration!!
  • #123
  • Oct 19, 2014 5:55pm Oct 19, 2014 5:55pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} I never said CEO was in it. - he might have been or not! I think it was a set up starting with "rule" changes back in the 1990. These rules were in place since the 1928!!!!! - and these rules have all been put back in place now by the way. if these rules had been in place it COULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED and that is a fact I think when this was put in place - they did not know or care it would be Lehman as the trigger. it could have been any of 10 other companies or likely 7 banks. I really do not want to go down this road so this will be my...
Yes but that top 1% is only a small portion of wealthy people, so i say that anyone above a net worth of 1 million $ can consider himself wealthy, so by this measure most wealthy people lost money, and only the speculators of the 1% did made money, the rest of the wealthy probably lost.

It's a fact, since most wealthy people are investors not speculators, and they mostly invested in land/real estate and stocks, if the real estate market crashed, obviously that these investors lost the most money, not the pump & dump traders who set it up in the first place.
"There's a sucker born every minute" - P.T. Barnum
  • #124
  • Edited 6:22pm Oct 19, 2014 6:08pm | Edited 6:22pm
Quoting Proximus
{quote} Yes but that top 1% is only a small portion of wealthy people, so i say that anyone above a net worth of 1 million $ can consider himself wealthy, so by this measure most wealthy people lost money, and only the speculators of the 1% did made money, the rest of the wealthy probably lost. It's a fact, since most wealthy people are investors not speculators, and they mostly invested in land/real estate and stocks, if the real estate market crashed, obviously that these investors lost the most money, not the pump & dump traders who set it up...

I really do not want to go done this road
but there are pro in the market and then there are the BIG PROs in the market
What happen in 1990 to 2008 is the same that happen every day - on a smaller scale in every market ( in both money and time)
- if you understand how the markets work.
Pro push up (or down) they make money as they do this, then when they get to thier target
there is blow off as retail buyers are sucked in and then as the market move against them they sell in fear fast or their SL are hit
(this is what a pin candle is - or a pin bar is)
and the pros make money on the way down - lots of money.
its classic really

you say ok a stock or forex for a few pips even a 100 maybe but never any thing like Lehman.
well it has happen before do you not believe me
look up Pound & Black Wednesday 16 September 1992 lol
In 2005 documents released under the Freedom of Information Act revealed that the actual cost was £3.3 billion to the Govt
- losses to others were much more

We see in Lehman or the Pound in 1992 or the markets every day the same pattern
ramp up - the trap and a drop (reverse in a down move of coarse)
big losser and big winners
that is trading

cheers
  • #125
  • Oct 19, 2014 6:38pm Oct 19, 2014 6:38pm
Quoting Proximus
{quote} Yep it was a mistake, i`ve seen many conspiracy videos, and i dont see how Fuld the CEO of Lehman would be in a better position now, than as a CEO of Lehman. His salary was about 22 million $ , i`m sure it's wealth grow really good. And by the bankruptcy he lost like 50 million in stocks, plus a few other millions in his real estates. So the crisis really cut his wallet, he lost his job and became infamous, was it worth it?. And most of the other big CEO's on wallstreet also lost half of their net worth. Why would they be so stupid to lose...
Thanks Proximus for the good post.
  • #126
  • Oct 19, 2014 8:42pm Oct 19, 2014 8:42pm
@TEB, just want to know what do you think. Are the markets random?
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  • #127
  • Oct 19, 2014 8:53pm Oct 19, 2014 8:53pm
"Why so many indicators, oscillators, and tools on charts"
there are some answers
- why not
- what's it to you
- trade your own chart
- my PC ram enough to handle more then yours
- etc....
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  • #128
  • Edited 10:29pm Oct 19, 2014 9:05pm | Edited 10:29pm
Quoting jusiur
@TEB, just want to know what do you think. Are the markets random?
great question

I would say Nope !

1st . I think there is a real price "the fix price" at any one time. But other then when the Brits and the Japanese "fix price" each day.
price is likely not at the real price. esp. for retail traders.
2nd. I think the pair is moving (trend) as each currency is readjusted as it weakens or strengthens in general over time.
3rd. I think the pros are doing their thing to make money.

so price is made up of these three things I think all are very predictable- so I think it is anything but random.
you can have events that have to be added in and so a readjustment have to be made.
ie. national leader's death - a weather issue - but these normally only change the pair for the short to mid term
- real changers are interest rate stuff - maybe a war etc
  • #129
  • Oct 20, 2014 2:37am Oct 20, 2014 2:37am
Hey guys,

I'm a newbie here and same question as the threader. I found a free and no repaint indicator that is easy and simple to use. When the indicator is above the price (Red line), there is a downward trend. If the blue line is under the price, the upward trend is forecasted to happen.

Signal Trend Lite

To me, this indicator is so simple. No complicated figures and lines. Could you plz help me to check it out? I think it will be more accurate if used with other indicators. Any idea about this?

Thanks in advance
  • #130
  • Oct 20, 2014 6:15am Oct 20, 2014 6:15am
Quoting vehatde
Hey guys, I'm a newbie here and same question as the threader. I found a free and no repaint indicator that is easy and simple to use. When the indicator is above the price (Red line), there is a downward trend. If the blue line is under the price, the upward trend is forecasted to happen. Signal Trend Lite To me, this indicator is so simple. No complicated figures and lines. Could you plz help me to check it out? I think it will be more accurate if used with other indicators. Any idea about...




you have posted this in the wrong place
try the rookie thread or the Platform Tech thread
  • #131
  • Oct 20, 2014 8:53pm Oct 20, 2014 8:53pm
Thanks for reminding me

Quoting TEB63
{quote} you have posted this in the wrong place try the rookie thread or the Platform Tech thread
  • #132
  • Last Post: Oct 21, 2014 9:58pm Oct 21, 2014 9:58pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} I really do not want to go done this road but there are pro in the market and then there are the BIG PROs in the market What happen in 1990 to 2008 is the same that happen every day - on a smaller scale in every market ( in both money and time) - if you understand how the markets work. Pro push up (or down) they make money as they do this, then when they get to thier target there is blow off as retail buyers are sucked in and then as the market move against them they sell in fear fast or their SL are hit (this is what a pin candle is - or...


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happened again
in the market it should not be able to happen.... the US Bond!!
its the same pattern - happened on the 15th of Oct.

read it your self http://blog.themistrading.com/what-h...-october-15th/
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