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  • #10,501
  • Oct 18, 2014 9:41am Oct 18, 2014 9:41am
One question I throw randomly:
There relationship between "open / close" with "high / low" in each bar?
That is, a number that relates "always" the "open / close" with "high / low".
I'm not sure.
  • #10,502
  • Oct 18, 2014 9:48am Oct 18, 2014 9:48am
The market is not random!

And i highly recommend treating it like it isnt. Once you understand it, you will see thoose windows for making money that EURUSDD is talking about. Everything in my system is not from this thread. EU put the thought in my head, and i went on and spend alot of hours trying to figure out how i could use this. The thing that there are 2 independent ideas floating around this forum (TZ and Sim) is just amazing. Figure out what fits you, and build your system. Just remember Patience & Confidence!

Ullen
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  • #10,503
  • Oct 18, 2014 10:24am Oct 18, 2014 10:24am
Quoting Ullen
The market is not random! And i highly recommend treating it like it isnt. Once you understand it, you will see thoose windows for making money that EURUSDD is talking about. Everything in my system is not from this thread. EU put the thought in my head, and i went on and spend alot of hours trying to figure out how i could use this. The thing that there are 2 independent ideas floating around this forum (TZ and Sim) is just amazing. Figure out what fits you, and build your system. Just remember Patience & Confidence! Ullen {image} {image}
Hi,Ullen.
the blue line is the moving average?
  • #10,504
  • Oct 18, 2014 10:33am Oct 18, 2014 10:33am
Quoting Occamz
{quote} It hits the turns so well because the Tranzient Zone indicator repaints until h-bars (in Kiads case 20 bars) after the fact! Perhaps you are over-doing it Vlady!
It doesn't repaint after h.Perhaps.....what?
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  • #10,505
  • Oct 18, 2014 10:40am Oct 18, 2014 10:40am
Quoting grin
{quote} which indis? are the zones valid only until they rolled off the screen?
The Transient Zone indicates by FireFox displays completed zones for a given h value.so once h is done, the zone is complete. It also shows incomplete zones which keep repainting until h is complete or price invalidates the zone. Perhaps others are over doing their understanding of the indi.
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #10,506
  • Oct 18, 2014 10:54am Oct 18, 2014 10:54am
Quoting grin
{quote} You are a humble one There are many ways of drawing more or less similar zones which one may name as points of attraction. The value is not in the zones per se. One has to figure out a way of handling the zones which is something you do not provide.
Really?...... Thank you for pointing out the obvious and repeating statements.
  • #10,507
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:32pm Oct 18, 2014 12:32pm
Quoting grin
{quote} Thanks. I assume by freefox... How do you figure out the value of the length of time (h) for zone to complete and become valid?
This one is trial and error. There was previously a discussion on finding an optimal h. I personally believe that "optimal" is a personal preference based on a specific timeframe and appropriate market type strategy (ranging vs trending).

what does that mean? How about you try trial and error. The simplest being, start at one. Then two, then three. The idea is to look at the screen and see if YOU can actually interpret what you see.

assuming you've gone through this exercise, you should now collect so you have h values that make sense. Eg. 6, 10, 12, 18, 45, 89, 120.... Just to throw some random numbers out there. Next see if you can correlate your views on multiple timeframes. Does your interpretation remain consistent from M5 to M30 to H1 to H4 etc etc.

Had you done your homework on the Similarity principle, you'll be able to use some Stochastic values that create time equivalence a of higher timeframes onto lower timeframes. These values are in posts and even in one of my PDFs.

Having done this work, you can now explore the original proposition and definition, ie. test if your h value is creating a visible opportunity for you to spot recurring or transient prices. Do you prefer to see a grey arrow or a coloured one? What values of h provide this? Do you notice what happens as you increase the value of h?

ask more question. Test. Question. Test.
be a scientist and make observations....then form opinions/ hypotheses, then test.
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  • #10,508
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:35pm Oct 18, 2014 12:35pm
Quoting Eurusdd
{quote} First and foremost, there is no guru on this thread. Furthermore, when I introduced some ideas here I did not force a particular finite number of steps for people to follow because I know there are a lot of very intelligent traders on this forum. Instead, I introduced a concept in its crudest form so that those who can see the truth will develop their own systems. So far, so good. I am quietly learning from most of them too. That is the way to deal with intelligent people. Give them freedom to explore. So, if you do not see any good in what...
A group of intelligent traders. My university education paid of afterall. Its not until 3days ago i gained full understanding. To get the gist one has to be a researcher. One who loves problem solving and will keep at it till the problem is solved. Eurusdd i cant thank you enough.

Complicated, yet so simple. Or simple yet complicated. Dunno
  • #10,509
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:38pm Oct 18, 2014 12:38pm
Quoting Ullen
The market is not random! And i highly recommend treating it like it isnt. Once you understand it, you will see thoose windows for making money that EURUSDD is talking about. Everything in my system is not from this thread. EU put the thought in my head, and i went on and spend alot of hours trying to figure out how i could use this. The thing that there are 2 independent ideas floating around this forum (TZ and Sim) is just amazing. Figure out what fits you, and build your system. Just remember Patience & Confidence! Ullen {image} {image}
This is awesome! I can see what you are doing on the green. I don't know what blue actually represents, but it seems to be that point in a move that is critical to a change in direction....inflection point? Or probably classic Sim.
in any case.

I love the simplicity of the implementation. Here's my interpretation: when blue crosses previous green the new blue swing becomes the future target.
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #10,510
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:39pm Oct 18, 2014 12:39pm
Quoting ephisi
{quote} A group of intelligent traders. My university education paid of afterall. Its not until 3days ago i gained full understanding. To get the gist one has to be a researcher. One who loves problem solving and will keep at it till the problem is solved. Eurusdd i cant thank you enough. Complicated, yet so simple. Or simple yet complicated. Dunno
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #10,511
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:41pm Oct 18, 2014 12:41pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote}
Trading in the uneven zone. Lol. I like that.
  • #10,512
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:50pm Oct 18, 2014 12:50pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} This is awesome! I can see what you are doing on the green. I don't know what blue actually represents, but it seems to be that point in a move that is critical to a change in direction....inflection point? Or probably classic Sim. in any case. I love the simplicity of the implementation. Here's my interpretation: when blue crosses previous green the new blue swing becomes the future target.
I think you get it, but it's really more complex than that.

The blue zz shows where ''price'' should be, the ''real'' price one could say. In my opinion price doesnt exist.

The green lines are returning points based on my theory.
Not about how much you win, but how much you loose
  • #10,513
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:57pm Oct 18, 2014 12:57pm
Quoting Ullen
{quote} I think you get it, but it's really more complex than that. The blue zz shows where ''price'' should be, the ''real'' price one could say. In my opinion price doesnt exist. The green lines are returning points based on my theory.
Awesome. I see it. Do you draw the blue manually or its a zz indi?
  • #10,514
  • Oct 18, 2014 12:58pm Oct 18, 2014 12:58pm
Quoting Ullen
{quote} I think you get it, but it's really more complex than that. The blue zz shows where ''price'' should be, the ''real'' price one could say. In my opinion price doesnt exist. The green lines are returning points based on my theory.
Yup, price doesn't exist there only space, movement and frequency...
  • #10,515
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:15pm Oct 18, 2014 1:15pm
Now getting many emails requesting help! I will say here that i equally sent emails to vlady, ullen, eurusdd, neio etc trying to learn this stuff. No one revealed the key secrets to me. But pointers which are all in the thread. Pls read the threads and if you must send mails send ones that show what you have figured out and ask if youre on the right track or not. Thats hiw i see it. That can be done on the thread and not through pms
  • #10,516
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:15pm Oct 18, 2014 1:15pm
Quoting ephisi
{quote} Awesome. I see it. Do you draw the blue manually or its a zz indi?
I draw nothing. I'ts only 1 indicator
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  • #10,517
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:18pm Oct 18, 2014 1:18pm
Quoting Ullen
{quote} I draw nothing. I'ts only 1 indicator
Tnx. I can do it manually. Dont know what indicator. Now people will start asking for the indicator
  • #10,518
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:39pm Oct 18, 2014 1:39pm
Quoting ephisi
{quote} Tnx. I can do it manually. Dont know what indicator. Now people will start asking for the indicator
blue is copied from a screenshot of ullen.
Red lines drawn by indi.. close but still not perfect..
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follow the flow
  • #10,519
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:50pm Oct 18, 2014 1:50pm
Hello, thank you very much for introducing this form of trading, the concept is great.
I am a Spanish girl and do not understand English very well, for more I read the thread there are important things I do not understand.
I need some help.

I know how the signals are produced with the "CI" prompt, the settings are for signs on 5M chart, I find the same configuration signals in other periods? I change the settings? (attached image)


Knowing that my questions may be answered already, but I can not find the answers, do not understand.
Could someone explain with an image as I can identify good signals and objectives?
I apologize in advance for these questions.
Thank you very much to all.
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  • #10,520
  • Oct 18, 2014 1:57pm Oct 18, 2014 1:57pm
Quoting Ullen
{quote} I think you get it, but it's really more complex than that. The blue zz shows where ''price'' should be, the ''real'' price one could say. In my opinion price doesnt exist. The green lines are returning points based on my theory.
Cool! Oh I totally get that it would be complex. I was commenting essentially on what the visual cues presented as far as a trading decision goes. The idea of "price" not existing is interesting. I always thought of it as a continuum...like a fabric.
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