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  • #4,981
  • Sep 25, 2014 2:56pm Sep 25, 2014 2:56pm
Quoting StrayDog
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Too funny
  • #4,982
  • Edited Sep 26, 2014 12:48am Sep 25, 2014 11:32pm | Edited Sep 26, 2014 12:48am
Quoting StrayDog
If we do get a bounce tomorrow, I am betting that one of the best trades will be fading the UVXY, or VXX...
US index futures pointing at a small gap up at the open. I bought back 10/3 $22 puts @ $0.15 near the close Thursday, putting me up net $0.45 on the $22/$19 spread. If we can get any kind of VIX drop Friday I will sell 10/3 $22 puts again.....
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,983
  • Sep 26, 2014 1:08am Sep 26, 2014 1:08am
lol, hey fool, I see you are following that dancing phil saga.....are you trading 500 lots yet?
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #4,984
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:05am Sep 26, 2014 2:05am
Quoting PayTheLimit
lol, hey fool, I see you are following that dancing phil saga.....are you trading 500 lots yet?
listen PTL, I like you, so I'm going to take you on as my student. I have a sure-fire system that I can guarantee will take you from an initial $200 stake to $900,000 in just 8-10 months, if you have the intestinal fortitude to follow it. Just so I can be sure you are serious, though, I require a "hurt payment" of 386 kg of Spam, up front. I'll send one of my boys around to pick that up on her scooter when you have it together. I think things are really going to turn up for you, buddy. Oh, and if you know any bored housewives who are interested in my "large lots system" (nudge, nudge) please give them my number.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,985
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:25am Sep 26, 2014 2:25am
Quoting The Fool
{quote} I might do a 10/3 $45/$42 bull put spread for $0.50 credit....10/3 $45 put's at 32 delta...risky....but I think EWZ will bottom out here above $45 pre-election....finger on the trigger....will wait till the close...I'm a chickenshit. Pretty volatile situation, though...a single poll or news article comes out could pop EWZ either way...
still on EWZ, it made a 6-month low today. EWZ spent time sub-$40 in Q1 2014...
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"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,986
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:31am Sep 26, 2014 2:31am
Quoting The Fool
did a 10/18 $125/$123 SSO bear call spread for $0.60, a bet that the S&P high won't be touched again for the next few weeks. Will manage out at less than full profit if we keep getting good drops in the index, hopefully by end of next week.
really wanted to get out of the $123 short calls today @ $0.55 (down from $1.07)...missed by $0.01. Any kind of dip in the SnP Friday & I will get that done.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,987
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:39am Sep 26, 2014 2:39am
Quoting The Fool
I sold YHOO $38.5 puts for Friday expiry against the $36 long calls sitting worthless from last week's bull put spreads - just $0.11, but given the number it buys food/gas for a month...I don't think YHOO wants to drop...
YHOO holding @ $39.00, should be ok Friday but I will be watching close. I have kinda stopped digging into the YHOO story, but I should look again, there might be some healthy upside there if risk-on sets in again.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,988
  • Sep 26, 2014 2:56am Sep 26, 2014 2:56am
Quoting The Fool
{quote} listen PTL, I like you, so I'm going to take you on as my student. I have a sure-fire system that I can guarantee will take you from an initial $200 stake to $900,000 in just 8-10 months, if you have the intestinal fortitude to follow it. Just so I can be sure you are serious, though, I require a "hurt payment" of 386 kg of Spam, up front. I'll send one of my boys around to pick that up on her scooter when you have it together. I think things are really going to turn up for you, buddy. Oh, and if you know any bored housewives who are interested...

thanks brother....thats a lot of spam, but I'll get it together in no time I suspect....


I cant wait to start trading a system, that has no SL's, and hedges at 11 pip drawdowns...I was kinda wondering what i've been doing wrong for the last 20 odd years....
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #4,989
  • Sep 26, 2014 3:00am Sep 26, 2014 3:00am
Quoting PayTheLimit
I cant wait to start trading a system, that has no SL's, and hedges at 11 pip drawdowns...I was kinda wondering what i've been doing wrong for the last 20 odd years....
Spam, brother...you'll see.
"If The Fool persists in his Folly he will become wise." - William Blake
  • #4,990
  • Sep 26, 2014 3:03am Sep 26, 2014 3:03am
Quoting The Fool
{quote} Spam, brother...you'll see.

lol, yea that guy was too much....made like 50million, has tons of gold sitting around his apartment, has a thing for trannies, but still needs a grand to take you under his wing....what a crock...

but the morons out there at endless, he will prolly make off with 100k or so....
Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #4,991
  • Sep 26, 2014 7:45am Sep 26, 2014 7:45am
Interesting SPX analysis... After a few minutes of talking of some individual stocks, comes SPX. Slim looking at daily chart patterns finds the same pattern like we had in Feb this year (I believe it was ~6% down)... he predicts more down momentum... "low coming in May next year"... hmmm

https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/...0?locale=en-US

We will see... I like Slim, because he is simple... Over the years I have heard so many stories when and why market should go down, but it never happened... from DeMark indicators (useless crap in strong trending markets) to logarithmic oscillator theory (well something like that )... In reality - if you want any meaningful yield, you HAVE to go to stockmarket... cheap money and all...

What I can say - to me it looks for quite some time that market is trying to find an excuse for correction, and since it did not found it in Ukraine, Syria, Iraq or any other geopolitical shit, it comes back to basics... interest rates. Why wait for that increase to happen, when you can sell in advance? How much it can go up, anyways? What is a bigger chance now, for SnP to go higher 200 points, or lower?

Anyways, hope Slim is right. I will adapt to any scenario, but still, I am hoping he is right.
Hope is dangerous in this game.
  • #4,992
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:01am Sep 26, 2014 8:01am
Quoting StrayDog
Interesting SPX analysis... After a few minutes of talking of some individual stocks, comes SPX. Slim looking at daily chart patterns finds the same pattern like we had in Feb this year (I believe it was ~6% down)... he predicts more down momentum... "low coming in May next year"... hmmm https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/shows/...0?locale=en-US We will see... I like Slim, because he is simple... Over the years I have heard so many stories when and why market should go down, but it never happened... from DeMark indicators...
look at those nasdaq stocks, techs stocks looking so juicy for a scalpers one day dream

to the downside
  • #4,993
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:07am Sep 26, 2014 8:07am
Quoting Cecil Gee
Any how QQQ opens or trades lower than 97.63 tomorrow I will be looking to trade NFLX AMZN GOOG FB TWTR or any volatile nasdaq stock with big daily range and the options being cheap to the downside
could it be after futures rose in pre market which indicated we were going to have a bounce that we come back down and open beneath the price above, I may go 2 strikes out to get something really cheap if price trades beneath 97.63 on FB, AAPL, or any other
  • #4,994
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:16am Sep 26, 2014 8:16am
current AAPL price 15 minutes before opening $98.68, If it opens below 98.58 then I'm longing 97 puts for today's expiration along with some other plus I will buy some for next weeks expiration should the market not move like I'm hoping

Apple Inc. (AAPL)
-NasdaqGS
97.87 0.00(0.00%) 25 Sep 21:15
|Pre-Market : 98.68 https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/us/fi/03rd/up_g.gif 0.81 (0.83%) 2:11PM GMT+01:00 - Nasdaq Real Time Price
  • #4,995
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:21am Sep 26, 2014 8:21am
Quoting Cecil Gee
current AAPL price 15 minutes before opening $98.68, If it opens below 98.58 then I'm longing 97 puts for today's expiration along with some other plus I will buy some for next weeks expiration should the market not move like I'm hoping Apple Inc. (AAPL) -NasdaqGS 97.87 0.00(0.00%) 25 Sep 21:15 |Pre-Market : 98.68 {image} 0.81 (0.83%) 2:11PM GMT+01:00 - Nasdaq Real Time Price

AAPL could be key stock today again. Here is the channel on daily chart (AGAIN ) Ugly looking candle right on support line. Looks it is going to be a break down this time.

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Hope is dangerous in this game.
  • #4,996
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:26am Sep 26, 2014 8:26am
Quoting StrayDog
{quote} AAPL could be key stock today again. Here is the channel on daily chart (AGAIN ) Ugly looking candle right on support line. Looks it is going to be a break down this time. {image}
add a NDX or QQQ chart to that apple if they fall below prices I have shared then we have a perfect storm, we need $NDX to trade below 4006, yesterday close was 4007.82
  • #4,997
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:28am Sep 26, 2014 8:28am
Futures indicating a slight green opening but that can change
  • #4,998
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:32am Sep 26, 2014 8:32am
everythings opened higher so I will wait to make any trades, will only make downside trades if I see those prices already discussed
  • #4,999
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:35am Sep 26, 2014 8:35am
Quoting Cecil Gee
current AAPL price 15 minutes before opening $98.68, If it opens below 98.58 then I'm longing 97 puts for today's expiration along with some other plus I will buy some for next weeks expiration should the market not move like I'm hoping Apple Inc. (AAPL) -NasdaqGS 97.87 0.00(0.00%) 25 Sep 21:15 |Pre-Market : 98.68 {image} 0.81 (0.83%) 2:11PM GMT+01:00 - Nasdaq Real Time Price
well AAPL is at the price I was looking for but QQQ is not

Apple Inc. (AAPL)
-NasdaqGS
98.59 https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/us/fi/03rd/up_g.gif 0.72(0.74%) 14:33 - Nasdaq Real Time Price
  • #5,000
  • Sep 26, 2014 8:45am Sep 26, 2014 8:45am
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} well AAPL is at the price I was looking for but QQQ is not Apple Inc. (AAPL) -NasdaqGS 98.59 {image} 0.72(0.74%) 14:33 - Nasdaq Real Time Price
oh well took a trade on AAPL $98 puts todays expiration from price of $99.43

Apple Inc. (AAPL)
-NasdaqGS
99.43 https://s.yimg.com/lq/i/us/fi/03rd/up_g.gif 1.56(1.60%) 2:44PM GMT+01:00 - Nasdaq Real Time Price
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