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You have to take baby steps. Like everything in life if you practise, you will get good at it over time. Trading is difficult but can be very rewarding.
Quoting jen101
{quote} Hey doc, good to see you back. How's it going?
ups and downs in short, Life you know ... I'm focusing on medicine nowadays as my training consumes a lot of my day hours and I work for a pharmaceutical company as a medical representative at night, Life's hard but I'm okay. Trying to save enough money before February for a two years training opportunity in Chicago, IL I hope I can make this one ... How about you
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} ups and downs in short, Life you know ... I'm focusing on medicine nowadays as my training consumes a lot of my day hours and I work for a pharmaceutical company as a medical representative at night, Life's hard but I'm okay. Trying to save enough money before February for a two years training opportunity in Chicago, IL I hope I can make this one ... How about you
I'm ok thanks. Trading is going well. Are you not going to France? Did you not talk about that? France is a great place; I'd like to move there myself, at least part time... I'll pm you later
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
I was reading earlier today the pdfs explaining the Sonic R trading style and yesterday I watched a couple of videos for Al Brooks PA course. I just had two lines sticked to my memory. When Brooks said " when I was an eye surgeon before starting trading I was able to make one surgery at a time while in trading I can have lots of shares and profit more, this is a hard job but well rewarding " and in the one of Sonic pdfs he talked about that people should take trading seriously and asked this question " how many years are you willing to go to a college...
Hello Ezz, just like your initial question, I would humbly say that learning forex is the easiest thing one can ever learn when comparing forex with being a graduate of some discipline, or a master in some sport. The actual problem in forex is actually
1. "Mastering yourself"... most people do not know who they are.
2."Mastering other human emotions":What you see in charts are human emotions at work and if u may ask how many people know how to read human emotions, you would agree with me that there are not too many.

If you can Master these two arts, you will become a MASTER.
Forex is very hard and very risky business. It is not predicable and we can not know exactly what will be happen in next hour or so. But we can learn it if we have good interest in it.
Quoting jen101
{quote} I'm ok thanks. Trading is going well. Are you not going to France? Did you not talk about that? France is a great place; I'd like to move there myself, at least part time... I'll pm you later
I wished so but it's no longer an option due to the language issues ... Check your inbox
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
Quoting Lordpipi
{quote} Hello Ezz, just like your initial question, I would humbly say that learning forex is the easiest thing one can ever learn when comparing forex with being a graduate of some discipline, or a master in some sport. The actual problem in forex is actually 1. "Mastering yourself"... most people do not know who they are. 2."Mastering other human emotions":What you see in charts are human emotions at work and if u may ask how many people know how to read human emotions, you would agree with me that there are not too many. If you can Master these...
And If didn't become a Master or Even traded FX it's no big deal too ... kidding
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
Quoting MapleLeaf
Don't waste your time and you money. In the end, you will lose it all. Remember this. Unfortunately you will dislike my comment, but actually I'm trying to help you save your money. It's up to you, though.
If that's your honest belief, then why do you have a FF account? Just to warn people that they're going to lose their money?
As for the '99.6%' statistic that you seem to include in the vast majority of your posts, perhaps you should consider the context of that figure. Statistics without context are meaningless.
Quoting Ponzi Jr
{quote} If that's your honest belief, then why do you have a FF account? Just to warn people that they're going to lose their money? As for the '99.6%' statistic that you seem to include in the vast majority of your posts, perhaps you should consider the context of that figure. Statistics without context are meaningless.
I think context is important also.. so before answering we need to make sure we have the question correct.

Please define "hard" ... tying a tie used to be hard because I didn't know how to do it. However now it's easy.. So it's all relative and the answer is different for everyone depending on their knowledge and skill level..

So what is "hard"? and... Hard to whom? ... then what is "THAT" hard? Hard as what?
It's as if we have already had a conversation about the subject comparing it to the difficulty of some other feat.
'trading" Is all trading is the same? Some things are easier to manage than others... It depends on what you are trading.. if it's forex, which pairs.. which time frame?

Literally "trading" could not be easier. You simply hit a button and you've made a trade. There that was easy.. It's like becoming a father, it's easy and fun. Any immature teenager can make that happen without even trying. However becoming a SUCCESSFUL father is an entirely different issue..

The same can be said about "trading" I once had a cat walk on my laptop and enter a trade. Turns out that when I found it and closed the trade I made a profit! She was a SUCCESSFUL trader with 100% successful trades..

So if you mean by "trading" you really mean being a successful trader.. then we will need a definition of "successful". Did we come out ahead at the end of a trade, or a month, a year? If so, how much ahead?..

So please give us some "context" because I can tell you from the years I've been around forex that almost all of the people I have seen get into forex have not stayed with it... I don't know how "hard" they thought it was when they quit forex, but I know how profitable they thought it was......

Of course it's real easy.. just buy low and sell high...LOL PipPip...
Quoting JimDandy
{quote} I think context is important also.. so before answering we need to make sure we have the question correct. Please define "hard" ... tying a tie used to be hard because I....
Heed the lessons of failure.
The basic problem of all the people in the world is that we either set a very hard and distant goal or do not set any goal at all. If you don't have goals then probable you won't do anything and achieve nothing. If your goal is too huge then it will be a great burden for your psychological state. Set a small aim which you can achieve in a short period of time. For example, you've found a nice book. Don't try to read it at once, read just one chapter or some part of it. Development in any area of your life is all about creating a habit. Spend at least 5 minutes but every day. Consistency is the key to everything. So Forex is not hard. Nothing in this world is hard. It's all the question of time. I will have been searching for financial freedom for as much time as I need. 10 years? 20 years? Who cares... It's worth of it.
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
I was reading earlier today the pdfs explaining the Sonic R trading style and
This is going to be some of the simplest and best advice you will hear whether you want to believe its true or not. From the desk I sit at I can tell you traders (informed mostly)...and excluding (most) beginners are right about direction on average when they trade. The biggest problem Is they let their losing trades ride and close their winning trades to soon. The ones who make the money are the ones that do just the opposite. Its as simple as that, AND I hope this information hits the nail on the head for you. If not then good luck lol! I think that traders make it hard on them selves thinking brokers and the big guys are out to get them when in fact they are just protecting their risk the best they know how.

Best
It's me...
Quoting AgentFx
{quote} This is going to be some of the simplest and best advice you will hear whether you want to believe its true or not. From the desk I sit at I can tell you traders (informed mostly)...and excluding (most) beginners are right about direction on average when they trade. The biggest problem Is they let their losing trades ride and close their winning trades to soon. The ones who make the money are the ones that do just the opposite. Its as simple as that, AND I hope this information hits the nail on the head for you. If not then good luck lol!...
I know this may surprise you but I Totally agree!
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} If you think we're cheating you for your money then don't visit a doctor again. done!

Hi Muhammad,


I don't really think you're cheating, it's just that you apply what you've learned at medical school, which is treating symptoms with chemical drugs (without knowing much, if anything, about what causes these symptoms in the first place). In 2009 a series of weird coincidences led me to 'German New Medicine', a theory on disease, discovered by a German doctor in the late 70's. First he verified it on his patients and then he wanted the medical establishment to verify it too, but ever since then they've just revoked his license to practice medicine, put him in jail a few times and used all other means available to slander this man's name.


Anyway, it prevented mutilation (and probably worse) for a dear one at that time and made me take a closer look at everything I thought I knew about 'modern medicine'. The result is that since then I indeed haven't visited a doctor, but got rid of migraine, low backache, don't get the 'flu' anymore, etc. Again, I don't blame doctors for what they don't know, but they could try to think for themselves a bit more, instead of scaring people into taking drugs by promoting the 'germ theory' - which is part of the worldwide scare tactics of 'modern medicine' (notice I didn't mention Big Pharma :-)


Tell me doctor, do you really believe that our bodies 'defensive system' turn against us all the time (which your profession lists as 'auto-immune disorders')? And that our bodies even help cancer tumors by providing them new blood vessels? (you call this 'angiogenesis' and instead of wondering why this happens, you just make more toxic chemicals trying to suppress yet another symptom).


To this day, the University of Tübingen refuses to test Dr. Hamer's scientific work, despite court orders in 1986 and 1994. Similarly, official medicine refuses to endorse German New Medicine despite its numerous verifications by both physicians and professorial associations. One of these verifications took place at the University of Trnava (September 1998) of which there's a signed document and a public video interview featuring Dr. Hamer and the (at that time) 'prorector für Forschung', prof. Jozef Mikloško. I've checked the names on the verification document and even compared a picture of prof. Jozef Mikloško to make sure he's the man on that video interview. All this and much more have me convinced that your business does much more harm than good to people and it should be limited to cases of physical damage, caused by accidents, not for so called 'chronic illnesses'.


I realize that Forex Factory is not the right place to discuss matters of health, but I see it as my human duty to inform people about the medical charade that's going on and endangers their health. Of course I also know this won't change much, but if only one person starts to investigate for himself (like I did, five years ago), it makes it worth my while.


Cheers
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
Quoting Ronald123
{quote} That's good news for the 95% who are losing at the moment
LOL, the reason for that 95% stat is mainly on account of poor research, shoddy application, impatience and of course, let's not forget the "no discipline" tag. Apart from all this, most of the newbies tend to view the forex market as a one stop atm..period..
Heck, I would be very surprised if the stat was not this high..
Quoting Forexnuts
{quote} LOL, the reason for that 95% stat is mainly on account of poor research, shoddy application, impatience and of course, let's not forget the "no discipline" tag. Apart from all this, most of the newbies tend to view the forex market as a one stop atm..period.. Heck, I would be very surprised if the stat was not this high..
Well, I'm glad you know exactly who those 95% are and what they're doing wrong, but I think it's a bit more complicated than that. In my humble opinion there are powerful 'forces' at work that at the same time 'educate' people about how the markets work and also tell them how to trade, kinda like the situation I've mentioned here earlier: the 'disease industry' (aka the 'Health Care System' - lol).

Cheers
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
Quoting Ronald123
{quote} Hi Muhammad, I don't really think you're cheating, it's just that you apply what you've learned at medical school, which is treating symptoms with chemical drugs (without knowing much, if anything, about what causes these symptoms in the first place). In 2009 a series of weird coincidences led me to 'German New Medicine', a theory on disease, discovered by a German doctor in the late 70's. First he verified it on his patients and then he wanted the medical establishment to verify it too, but ever since then they've just revoked his license...
Good Morning/Night/Noon Mr. Ronald

This was a really long read to do ... And yes they do and the autoimmune disorders exists ... Big Pharma is another issue and you know it besides that the ethical doctors which I assume represent at least 80% of us Don't listent to big pharma Reps. despite how irritating they are! ... Speaking of Dr. Hamers I'm glad that the University of Tübingen refuses to test his "scientific" work because it doesn't sound scientific ... period. If he wasn't a fellow Doc. I would call him a total idiot .. period, too lol ... Sir, I haven't read a bunch of papers on the internet, I'm a medicine school grad. and that means if you don't know that I've studied for 7 years every aspect possible you could think about of the human body, inside out, upside down, flipped around lol ... In brief what I wanna say is my info is genuine and it works ... because people ( patients ) said so ... Try to go live in a country where the government doesn't invest much in the healthcare system and watch firsthand how their population health look like ... Whenever you got any specific questions " in a scientific way of course" I'm here to reply them all whether in public or you can always inbox me ....

Good Day, sir :-)
So sorry for always replying late! But I got 2 Jobs!!
Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} Good Morning/Night/Noon Mr. Ronald This was a really long read to do ... And yes they do and the autoimmune disorders exists ... Big Pharma is another issue and you know it besides that the ethical doctors which I assume represent at least 80% of us Don't listent to big pharma Reps. despite how irritating they are! ... Speaking of Dr. Hamers I'm glad that the University of Tübingen refuses to test his "scientific" work because it doesn't sound scientific ... period. If he wasn't a fellow Doc. I would call him a total idiot .. period,...
Hello Muhammad,

I'm sure you and I could write much longer texts than the one I've wrote :-) For seven years you've studied the instructions given to you by the medical establishment, which regards the human body as not much more than a mechanical thing: the mind/body connection is mostly overseen and if it wasn't for phenomena like the placebo and nocebo effect (and things like spontaneous remissions), they wouldn't bother with it at all. So far 'all aspects of the human body', looked at from your professional perspective. Your info is right within that context, yes, but if it worked, you would be curing people, not just suppressing their symptoms. And you wouldn't still be pouring chemo poison into cancer patients, like you've been doing for the last 50 years or so.

You say 'the auto-immune disorders exist' and that's that, no word about the inability of modern medicine to point at the real cause for the immune system to not only fail to recognize dangerous cancer cells, but even to attack the body it's supposed to protect against 'enemies'. No word about 'angiogenesis', just the remark that 'it exists', which is enough reason for you to not think about why it exists, but just get on with administering toxic chemicals, like you've learned how to do that during seven years of study.

You also say: "Speaking of Dr. Hamers I'm glad that the University of Tübingen refuses to test his "scientific" work because it doesn't sound scientific ... period." Again, this demonstrates how you guys think: seven years of study makes you 'know it all' and anything that doesn't fit with your preconceived idea's has to be wrong. Your glad the University of Tübingen neglects the court order to test Dr. Hamer's work (his thesis, at least) and without having any experience nor knowledge of it, you discard it as being 'not scientific'.

I don't have to look at countries that have a less developed healthcare system than 'ours', because I look around here and see sick people everywhere. That's because hardly any disease is understood by 'modern medicine', not even a simple cold. And still, they pretend to know almost all there is to know about disease. Who's the idiots here? I will keep it at this, people just have to start thinking for themselves, or not, that's not up to me. All I do, now and then, is presenting info that you, doctors, will never tell your patients about (if only because you never even saw a glimpse of it while you were at medical school).

Anyway, that's it for me. If you care to answer, please look into this matter first, don't just give me the official nonsense of the medical establishment (and Big Pharma), because that's just too stupid for words. Talk 'cause' for disease, not symptoms and then we might have a real discussion.

Have a nice day, evening, night!
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
Quoting Ronald123
{quote} Hello Muhammad, I'm sure you and I could write much longer texts than the one I've wrote :-) For seven years you've studied the instructions given to you by the medical establishment, which regards the human body as not much more than a mechanical thing: the mind/body connection is mostly overseen and if it wasn't for phenomena like the placebo and nocebo effect (and things like spontaneous remissions), they wouldn't bother with it at all. So far 'all aspects of the human body', looked at from your professional perspective. Your...

Hi! ....
First of All Relaaaaaaaax .... Done ? fine! ... Let's get to it ... "which regards the human body as not much more than a mechanical thing" Well can you prove that it's anymore! ... "Your info is right within that context, yes, but if it worked, you would be curing people" We do sir and that's why people keep visiting us! do you think that the people are naive enough to give us their hard earned money! ... "pouring chemo poison into cancer patients" because it works with some cases to some extent. ... "you've been doing for the last 50 years or so" I wasn't practicing medicine 50 years ago so it's not my business lol ... just kidding. ... "no word about the inability of modern medicine to point at the real cause for the immune system" We're not Gods, We don't know everything! ... "this demonstrates how you guys think: seven years of study makes you 'know it all" Again! I don't think I know it all, No one does! ... "hardly any disease is understood by 'modern medicine', not even a simple cold" Oh yeah! You can check on the scientific medical cures invented only during the last year and you can see how far things are being understood and btw yes Influenza has now cure till this speaking moment ( only a vaccine ) and yeah again because we're not Gods! ... "people just have to start thinking for themselves" you got any useful suggestions on how they can do so? ... "is presenting info that you, doctors, will never tell your patients about" why in hell I'd hide a useful information that could help my patient! ... "don't just give me the official nonsense of the medical establishment" Nonsense! ... Man! the medical nonsense is the reason why you're alive until this moment ( those vaccines you been injected when you were a little kid were for a reason, We didn't do it for fun lol ) ... "Talk 'cause' for disease, not symptoms and then we might have a real discussion" Gimme a name. An example, Any disease! ...

Good Day!
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Quoting Muhammad Ezz
{quote} Hi! .... First of All Relaaaaaaaax .... Done ? fine! ... Let's get to it ...

Thanks for your time, Muhammad, I'm sure you're doing the best you can, at this moment in time (don't we all...). There's no point
continuing this... how to call it?... exchange of viewpoints... For you, life is something we have to fight our way through, while for
me it's more like a wondrous experience; you regard people like machines (on which feelings, thoughts, beliefs, etc., have no influence),
in spite of tons of evidence showing you wrong (for instance the already mentioned placebo and nocebo effect, but there's much more).


By the way, people don't come to you because they think it's the right thing to do when they're 'ill', but because the medical establishment
scares the hell out of them by means of their propaganda and other scare tactics - 'cancer doesn't go away by itself!' (only 1:100.000 cases),
etc. Okay, one little demonstration of how misinformed people are by you ('you' meaning the organization you represent):


"[...] Therefore, for every 100 nonpalpable cancers found through mammography alone, 54 would presumably have gone away (174 / 324 × 100 = 54%)."
(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3320224/)


Shocking, isn't it? Although, maybe not to you, I know...


The same applies to all kinds of medical scams, regarding HIV/AIDS, vaccins, etc., but it's so useless trying to talk about this with... a doctor :-)


Cheers
95% of the people don't believe 100% they can win, that's why they lose
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