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  • May 7, 2014 5:06am May 7, 2014 5:06am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
Damn, another loss
 
 
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  • May 7, 2014 8:37am May 7, 2014 8:37am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
hope you caught this one Captainforex.
good 20pips+
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  • May 7, 2014 8:44am May 7, 2014 8:44am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
I also took another shot at EURUSD after my loss earlier today. just closed it for 5pips. it was a buy but I think PA is pulling back and with high impact news coming up, am just glad to close the day in profit, no matter how little.
here is the screen shot
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  • May 7, 2014 9:46am May 7, 2014 9:46am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Hi Adeleke. Unfortunately I could only give 3 hours to trading today so missed the move. I would suggest updating your M15 stoch settings as lastingwell suggested from 5,3,3 to 11,3,3. Did you enter at the point you took the screen shot? I have overlaid the m15 stoch -mtf onto the chart and it doesnt look too convincing. I know hindsight trading is the easiest thing in the world to do but i prefer the second red line on the below chart. Not only does the m15 stoch look better but price has made a series of higher lows from support and at some point the M30 arrow has turned white (not sure exactly with hindsight). At the moment I am using the M30 arrow to recognise trend and not trading against it. Martyfish suggested trying this although I cant find the post at the moment.
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  • May 7, 2014 5:03pm May 7, 2014 5:03pm
  •  geomink
  • | Joined Apr 2009 | Status: Member | 1,507 Posts
no more ADR, no more gain?
Don't give up
 
 
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  • May 8, 2014 5:32am May 8, 2014 5:32am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
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Hi Adeleke. Unfortunately I could only give 3 hours to trading today so missed the move. I would suggest updating your M15 stoch settings as lastingwell suggested from 5,3,3 to 11,3,3. Did you enter at the point you took the screen shot? I have overlaid the m15 stoch -mtf onto the chart and it doesnt look too convincing. I know hindsight trading is the easiest thing in the world to do but i prefer the second red line on the below chart. Not only does the m15 stoch look better but price has made a series of higher lows from support and at some point...
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ok Captainforex, I think I would adjust my indicators but as regards my entry, it was the third line on your chart cos I usually wait for a pullback before I make my move.
Missed this morning's BUY on EURUSD, still waiting for a chance to re-enter
 
 
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  • May 8, 2014 8:50am May 8, 2014 8:50am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
took advantage of the news for a quick 18pips on EURJPY. that should be all for me today.
Am not attaching chart cos that was not a Genesis type trade infact, its not any trade system I know about, just followed PA greedily.
 
 
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  • May 9, 2014 4:08am May 9, 2014 4:08am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Good morning Genesis traders. I placed a sell on EA a little while ago.

Pros: Red arrows on M15,30, H1,H4 (M5 turned red shortly after entry.
Red matrix on M5,15,30,H4 (2 red on H1)
Lower low and lower high from resistance of BRN 1.4800

Cons: M15 stoch only just crossed down (M30 had been down for a little while though)
Selling quite close to resistance.

Screen shot taken very soon after entry.
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  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
I meant to say selling close to support! Its moved about 25 pips now. SL to BE.

Edit: I had to go out so set a TP at 1.4725 as price reacted there looking left on the chart. Result when I got back +47. Lots of pips left on the table but mustn't grumble!
 
 
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  •  forex1016
  • | Joined Mar 2014 | Status: mining pips all day | 14 Posts
Hey guys, after reading the original thread back and forth, I've finally found something useful to keep myself disciplined.
The hardest thing for us is to find a way to read stoch properly. I've concluded that there are only 2 types of "valid genesis setup" what we call as HPT

Perfect M5 entry
1) has "JUST" come down from OB/OS
2) Stoch has "JUST" reached "50" level
3) "Must" open clearly above or below SMA 5
4) Genesis full color

M5 stoch pull back and go in the same direction with M15 stoch
1) M15 "must cross "50" level
2) M5 either just hit "50" or "30" or "70"
3) M5 open above/below SMA 5
4) Genesis full color

** Keep in mind that we have to use SMA 5 for trading. The 5/15 pdf powered by wiz uses EMA5, but RJ uses SMA 5 by himself.
** These 2 types of entry quite often lead the PA to next SR level easily.
** Setup usually only happen once or twice per day. If I understand it correctly, this is also why RJ's trades are so limited.

******Extremely impossible to lose if you enter with these types of setup--- minimum of 20 pips guaranteed*******

Please comment if you have other views. I'm still trying to be a better GMS trader as well
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  • May 9, 2014 9:37am May 9, 2014 9:37am
  •  killerno
  • | Joined Mar 2013 | Status: Member | 119 Posts
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Hey guys, after reading the original thread back and forth, I've finally found something useful to keep myself disciplined. The hardest thing for us is to find a way to read stoch properly. I've concluded that there are only 2 types of "valid genesis setup" what we call as HPT Perfect M5 entry 1) has "JUST" come down from OB/OS 2) Stoch has "JUST" reached "50" level 3) "Must" open clearly above or below SMA 5 4) Genesis full color M5 stoch pull back and go in the same direction with M15 stoch 1) M15 "must cross "50" level 2) M5 either just hit "50"...
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Hi Forex 1016,

thanks for your suggestions. I have a question. Regarding to this picture:
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Is it a valid setup? M5 stoch came from oversold area, but it had a move back for a bit and then increased again.
Also do you check for the perfect M5 entry the M15 stoch too or only at the pullback entry?
Regarding to your Pullback entry:
"2) M5 either just hit "50" or "30" or "70" "
You mean that M15 stoch has to came from OB/OS and cross 50 and after e.g. for sell M5 stoch has to hit 30,50 or 70 level and turn back+ also Genesis matrix signal.
Could you please post few more example pictures if you have time.
It is looks quiete good setups.
Thank you!

Regards
 
 
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  • May 11, 2014 5:40pm May 11, 2014 5:40pm
  •  lastingwell
  • Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Member | 1,657 Posts
Quoting forex1016
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RJ uses SMA 5 by himself.
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If you look at the template you will see that RJ uses a 5 EMA with a shift of 2 applied to Typical price (HLC/3) not a SMA.
 
 
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  • May 12, 2014 5:37am May 12, 2014 5:37am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
Selling on EURUSD right now, lets see how it goes.
 
 
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  • May 12, 2014 12:49pm May 12, 2014 12:49pm
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
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Selling on EURUSD right now, lets see how it goes.
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What a very terrible day. Exited the SELL too early at breakeven then made some horrible mistakes on the EJ. ended the day with a loss
 
 
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  • May 14, 2014 4:11am May 14, 2014 4:11am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Good morning. I would like to share a small loss trade I just had on EJ.

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Pros: Arrows, M5,15,30,H1
Matrix, M5,15,30, 3 white on H1
Price on M5 had just made a small higher high and higher low

Cons: I am buying below the DP

I entered shortly before the above screen shot was taken. The trade took off quickly in my favour to a max of about 12 pips but turned back almost as fast. I decided to get out at about -4 pips.

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Lessons: Buying quite close below the DP perhaps i should have lowered my expectations or moved SL to BE or maybe I should have left the trade for someone else!

Edit: HTF stochs probably also not the most convincing
 
 
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  • May 15, 2014 5:51am May 15, 2014 5:51am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Good morning. An EJ trade for me this morning that gave me 40 pips. Entry was on the open after the first red line and the close on the second.

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Pros: Red M5,15,H4 arrows
Red M5, M15 matrix, 3 red on M30
Price had made a series of tests below the DP then made a lower low and lower high.


Cons: White M30,H1 arrows

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Im not happy with the exit. I think i should have moved my SL to a small profit above S1 with the aim of making it to S2/BRN 139.00
 
 
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  • May 16, 2014 3:46am May 16, 2014 3:46am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
hi Captain,My first trade for today ends in a break-even
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  • May 16, 2014 4:42am May 16, 2014 4:42am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
Good morning Adeleke. I had a trade on EA this morning. Im not very proud of it. It was with trend with all arrows and matrix m5,15,30,H1,H4 white but i had an itchy trigger finger and entered before the M5 stoch had crossed up. I was thinking it was going to cross up and was worried i was going to miss the move. Not a good thing that bad behaviour is rewarded. Anyway, noted in my journal.

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  • May 16, 2014 6:08am May 16, 2014 6:08am
  •  Adeleke
  • | Joined May 2011 | Status: Member | 121 Posts
my second trade for the day looks better, (I hope)
already got 5 pips off this one and now on BE, my second target is 20pips, fingers crossed
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  • May 16, 2014 6:21am May 16, 2014 6:21am
  •  captainforex
  • | Joined Sep 2013 | Status: Member | 75 Posts
I took the same trade on EJ.
Pros: I liked the way it rejected the DP and made a series of lower highs.
Cons:against the M15,M30,H1 arrows!

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As i type this it looks like I exited early! The BRN acted as a turning point yesterday so thats why I decided to take my profit.
 
 
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