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  • Apr 29, 2014 6:31am Apr 29, 2014 6:31am
  •  mindgame
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Can anyone please tell me the logic behind.Why we should only BUY in this method and not sell ?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 6:36am Apr 29, 2014 6:36am
  •  letterB
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Can anyone please tell me the logic behind.Why we should only BUY in this method and not sell ?
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that is also puzzling me
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 7:41am Apr 29, 2014 7:41am
  •  FXEZ
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Can anyone please tell me the logic behind.Why we should only BUY in this method and not sell ?
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The idea is that if price reactions off news reports are really a 50/50 proposition, by consistently betting on one side of the equation, you are guaranteed to win 50% of the time.

If you switch from long to short at various times based on your current analysis it is feasible that you can do worse than 50%. So Tony (in his wisdom) has figured that he will at least do as well as a coin toss by always betting on the same side of the news. Though sometimes even Tony takes a flier on the shorts!
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 7:49am Apr 29, 2014 7:49am
  •  Ivanyo
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What FXEZ has posted is correct, and I also note that when you win, you win MUCH more that what you lose as long as you are managing your stops properly.
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 8:23am Apr 29, 2014 8:23am
  •  FXEZ
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What FXEZ has posted is correct, and I also note that when you win, you win MUCH more that what you lose as long as you are managing your stops properly.
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Thanks for adding this VERY important point Ivanyo!
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 8:32am Apr 29, 2014 8:32am
  •  SaiLyfee
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{quote} The idea is that if price reactions off news reports are really a 50/50 proposition, by consistently betting on one side of the equation, you are guaranteed to win 50% of the time. If you switch from long to short at various times based on your current analysis it is feasible that you can do worse than 50%. So Tony (in his wisdom) has figured that he will at least do as well as a coin toss by always betting on the same side of the news. Though sometimes even Tony takes a flier on the shorts!
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So that being said, we could opt to always go short instead of long without any disadvantage to those who go long right?
 
 
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{quote} So that being said, we could opt to always go short instead of long without any disadvantage to those who go long right?
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I believe this is not the same. Put in the ask line and watch what it do in news. The broker open the spread by the ask-price not by the buy-price. So a buy doesnt get hurt but a short would get SL possibly.
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  • Apr 29, 2014 4:13pm Apr 29, 2014 4:13pm
  •  Electry
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{quote} I believe this is not the same. Put in the ask line and watch what it do in news. The broker open the spread by the ask-price not by the buy-price. So a buy doesnt get hurt but a short would get SL possibly.
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I disagree on this one. I have seen oanda winden spreads on the bid side many times when the price is still on other brokers.

Here is an example:
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  • Apr 29, 2014 4:41pm Apr 29, 2014 4:41pm
  •  JedyHacKer
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wth 20 pips spread :O , on AU .... T_ T
 
 
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  •  SaiLyfee
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-0...ur-action.html
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/what-...V2h5Ae23g.html
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Big news for EU tonight..I saw Tony didn't highlight this event though.
Is anybody else trading it? Trying to figure out if I should go in with a 7 or 15 pip SL. What do you guys think?
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 8:15pm Apr 29, 2014 8:15pm
  •  totowah
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{quote} I disagree on this one. I have seen oanda winden spreads on the bid side many times when the price is still on other brokers. Here is an example: {image}
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Hi Electry,

Thanks for sharing. Are you happy with Pepperstone for straddling ??
I am currently testing Thinkforex and Axitrader with same settings. For the moment, Axitrader is providing lower spread, but I am considering checking another broker like pepperstone.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 12:14am Apr 30, 2014 12:14am
  •  mindgame
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{quote} The idea is that if price reactions off news reports are really a 50/50 proposition, by consistently betting on one side of the equation, you are guaranteed to win 50% of the time. If you switch from long to short at various times based on your current analysis it is feasible that you can do worse than 50%. So Tony (in his wisdom) has figured that he will at least do as well as a coin toss by always betting on the same side of the news. Though sometimes even Tony takes a flier on the shorts!
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Good way of thinking buddy.Im sure the thread would'nt have created anything without a valid reason.Just wanted to know the logic behind it.Thanks for clarifying that out to lot of people here.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 2:46am Apr 30, 2014 2:46am
  •  Electry
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{quote} Hi Electry, Thanks for sharing. Are you happy with Pepperstone for straddling ?? I am currently testing Thinkforex and Axitrader with same settings. For the moment, Axitrader is providing lower spread, but I am considering checking another broker like pepperstone.
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Nah pepperstone is impossible to trade news with. I always record my trades so this is a screenshot from and old video (where I had my stop slipped for 50 pips )

At the moment I got bored with slippage so all my money is now at oanda. In the past I would have recomended Admiral Markets but their platform froze for 8 minutes during big GBP news and I couldn't close my order which was in the wrong direction. (It said "order is locked"). I contacted support and got no answer = withdraw all. Their spread is low and ok slippage but absolutely worst custommer service...
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 4:13am Apr 30, 2014 4:13am
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so what and how we trade the news today
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  • Apr 30, 2014 5:03am Apr 30, 2014 5:03am
  •  SaiLyfee
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WHIP.
Out for 7...
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  • Apr 30, 2014 5:16am Apr 30, 2014 5:16am
  •  Ivanyo
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 692 Posts
Interesting....I'm with Pepperstone.

Let's see how it goes in a couple of hours - hope slippage isn't terrible, otherwise a change of brokers may be in order.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 5:41am Apr 30, 2014 5:41am
  •  totowah
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Tidal Trader | 60 Posts
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{quote} Nah pepperstone is impossible to trade news with. I always record my trades so this is a screenshot from and old video (where I had my stop slipped for 50 pips ) At the moment I got bored with slippage so all my money is now at oanda. In the past I would have recomended Admiral Markets but their platform froze for 8 minutes during big GBP news and I couldn't close my order which was in the wrong direction. (It said "order is locked"). I contacted support and got no answer = withdraw all. Their spread is low and ok slippage but absolutely...
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Thanks for the advice. Wanna consider Oanda then.

I also record everything now . I had no slippage | low spread with both Thinkforex & Axitrader today during "CPI Flash Estimate" ..
Happy
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 6:32am Apr 30, 2014 6:32am
  •  Electry
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Member | 76 Posts
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{quote} Thanks for the advice. Wanna consider Oanda then. I also record everything now . I had no slippage | low spread with both Thinkforex & Axitrader today during "CPI Flash Estimate" .. Happy
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No problem mate. I don't know if you are using real money or not but remember that demo accounts don't have slippage
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 6:48am Apr 30, 2014 6:48am
  •  totowah
  • | Joined Jan 2013 | Status: Tidal Trader | 60 Posts
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{quote} No problem mate. I don't know if you are using real money or not but remember that demo accounts don't have slippage
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Live of course.
I also straddle the news with Amazing EA, so I am very sensitive to spread/slippage.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 7:13am Apr 30, 2014 7:13am
  •  Tony112
  • Joined Apr 2008 | Status: sometimes... news come unexpected | 7,294 Posts
Get ready for advance GDP on USD
Invest in alarm clocks
 
 
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