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  • Apr 29, 2014 12:15pm Apr 29, 2014 12:15pm
  •  mikeimas
  • | Joined Feb 2014 | Status: Member | 122 Posts
ok todays result
3 GBPUSD trades 2 with small profits and 1 loss. Over all in profit. I am going to try it on some other pairs in the coming week
Look to the LEFT of your CHART.....
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 12:34pm Apr 29, 2014 12:34pm
  •  iamgotzaa
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Quoting mikeimas
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ok todays result 3 GBPUSD trades 2 with small profits and 1 loss. Over all in profit. I am going to try it on some other pairs in the coming week
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I encourage to try on other pairs.

Pair with USD quote currency does not swing much.
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 6:33pm Apr 29, 2014 6:33pm
  •  Patmontes
  • | Joined Feb 2014 | Status: Member | 395 Posts
GBPNZD recovery closed for total of all trades in profit woohoo! Good Job!!

Now EUR CAD buy need to recover from that downward spike
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 7:44pm Apr 29, 2014 7:44pm
  •  persia
  • | Joined Feb 2011 | Status: Member | 108 Posts
update: dear friends since sunday i had 14 trades ( 7 win & 7 loss ) with overall profit of $462.55,this is great

with such a win ratio ( %50),i should tell i changed the lot size to 1.00 just for tray ( demo account).

regards
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 8:10pm Apr 29, 2014 8:10pm
  •  ForexSam
  • | Joined Jan 2011 | Status: Member | 140 Posts
Quoting Patmontes
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GBPNZD recovery closed for total of all trades in profit woohoo! Good Job!! Now EUR CAD buy need to recover from that downward spike
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I haven't posted in ages, but I traded that trend today, so here is my analysis..take it or leave it.

CAD is in a huge strength across the board. IF EURCAD retraces, it is very unlikely to get past 1.5175 (Daily Pivot). If that is enough for your recovery, you might have a chance. Sadly, none of the CAD pairs found any support at their current levels and EURCAD should reach 1.5060 before the night is through.

Or maybe not
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 8:23pm Apr 29, 2014 8:23pm
  •  belka
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 62 Posts
Hi Iamgotzaa,
I ran the v66ba on 15min TF, but I noticed the TS/Stoploss didn't work, so I changed to H1 TF. On H1 TF, the Stoploss works but seems that the TS not working as some profit pairs finally closed by SL with only 3 points profit. The recovery works as well even I don't know the results since no recovery trade get closed yet.
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  • Apr 29, 2014 9:34pm Apr 29, 2014 9:34pm
  •  iamgotzaa
  • Joined Feb 2013 | Status: One step closer! | 764 Posts
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Hi Iamgotzaa, I ran the v66ba on 15min TF, but I noticed the TS/Stoploss didn't work, so I changed to H1 TF. On H1 TF, the Stoploss works but seems that the TS not working as some profit pairs finally closed by SL with only 3 points profit. The recovery works as well even I don't know the results since no recovery trade get closed yet. Here are the screenshot of the open trades & acc.history: {image} {image}
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What I coded in there for Recovery is

  1. if positions are less than 4, it think it can take some pips out of current ATR
  2. some pips for profit is squeeze_factor (0.3) x ATR
  3. means i would like to have only 30% from current ATR (depends on the session they are recovering)
  4. so
  5. if ATR is too low, and 30% of it is too less, then i would take 3 pips (just enough to buy a candy ^_^ )
  6. if positions are more than 4 but less than 8
  7. (we are in deep shit) I would take just a half of 30%ATR --> if 30%ATR is 3 pips, then I take 1.5 pips (which in high spread pair, you already loss)
  8. ...which I think better than loss a lot more
  9. if more than 8, SHIT, i'm giving up... pls take my money, Mr. Market. i'll take fraction of pips only 1/10 of 30%ATR
  10. Version before 66b, I make it loss the capitol... and it's totally ugly


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if(calbreak_flag==true)
         {
            lots=init_lot_size*MathPow(exponent,power);
            status("Next Lot Size="+DoubleToStr(lots,2));
            target_gain=squeeze_factor*ATR;
            if(target_gain<pts(30)) target_gain=30*Point;
            new_target_price=thisBreakEven+target_gain;
            //enforce if recovery orders are more than xx number, just got all of them close ASAP
            if(power>=4 && power<8) new_target_price=thisBreakEven+0.5*target_gain;
            if(power>=8 ) new_target_price=thisBreakEven+0.1*target_gain;
            
            ModifyTakeProfit(OP_BUY,new_target_price);
            calbreak_flag=false;
         }
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 9:36pm Apr 29, 2014 9:36pm
  •  iamgotzaa
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Quoting ForexSam
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{quote} I haven't posted in ages, but I traded that trend today, so here is my analysis..take it or leave it. CAD is in a huge strength across the board. IF EURCAD retraces, it is very unlikely to get past 1.5175 (Daily Pivot). If that is enough for your recovery, you might have a chance. Sadly, none of the CAD pairs found any support at their current levels and EURCAD should reach 1.5060 before the night is through. Or maybe not
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yeah

Daily Pivot.... need to take that into account

need to code it in!!!
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 29, 2014 9:50pm Apr 29, 2014 9:50pm
  •  iamgotzaa
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Quoting persia
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update: dear friends since sunday i had 14 trades ( 7 win & 7 loss ) with overall profit of $462.55,this is great with such a win ratio ( %50),i should tell i changed the lot size to 1.00 just for tray ( demo account). regards
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I have some question/request?

Just curious what if server open time effect the performance. Because I use bar open close high low.
What broker you use? Server open time, NY Session?

Yes, To all participants.
Can you make simple analysis by pair, trade side, win/loss rate and avg. pips?

it will be great. At least we can compare "what" is best for this 66b version.
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 12:20am Apr 30, 2014 12:20am
  •  Spar
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
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{quote} I have some question/request? Just curious what if server open time effect the performance. Because I use bar open close high low. What broker you use? Server open time, NY Session? Yes, To all participants. Can you make simple analysis by pair, trade side, win/loss rate and avg. pips? it will be great. At least we can compare "what" is best for this 66b version.
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Hi Gotzaa

Not sure if the PDF file included herein is in line with what information you want. Please advise if you want more detailed information.

Please keep in mind however that the trailing stop loss does not work more than 25% of the time. So I have to manually add a trailing stop (MT4 Script) when I see that the trade is in profit. So there is some discretion trading in these results which may render the summary a little skewed.

Regards,

Spar
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File Type: pdf Summary Report for Gotzaa 2014-04-30.pdf   58 KB | 340 downloads
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 12:35am Apr 30, 2014 12:35am
  •  fredgold3434
  • | Joined Jun 2010 | Status: Member | 563 Posts
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Check it out here but dont expect any support as this has long been abandoned due to the creator missing. Somehow with build 610 happening... all hell broke lose as the code was not made to adapt anymore. It worked but with some bugs. But still a piece of art we can learn some coding ideas from to better the Feb10 EA http://www.mql5.com/en/code/11023
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Hi
any idea milestone works on which pairs and what TF?
thanks
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 12:38am Apr 30, 2014 12:38am
  •  iamgotzaa
  • Joined Feb 2013 | Status: One step closer! | 764 Posts
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{quote} Hi Gotzaa Not sure if the PDF file included herein is in line with what information you want. Please advise if you want more detailed information. Please keep in mind however that the trailing stop loss does not work more than 25% of the time. So I have to manually add a trailing stop (MT4 Script) when I see that the trade is in profit. So there is some discretion trading in these results which may render the summary a little skewed. Regards, Spar {image}
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noted.

placing manual stop would be a good intervention too.

we all are here to make profit

not racing in EA intelligent
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 12:45am Apr 30, 2014 12:45am
  •  Spar
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
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{quote} noted. placing manual stop would be a good intervention too. we all are here to make profit not racing in EA intelligent
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I concur with you that manual intervention is acceptable. I actually never traded with an EA ... but use them for back testing a theory only.

In this case, I just cannot understand why the trailing stop loss does not work all the time. The reason you gave yesterday makes sense if there is a gap or ticks are too fast and the calculation is not made. I will ask my programmer if he could understand what is wrong with the code or what situation can create this issue.

Please advise on the type of report you want from participants. Maybe some kind of uniform table that we all use to report win/loss, average, pips ...etc.

A+
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 1:01am Apr 30, 2014 1:01am
  •  Spar
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
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{quote} Hi any idea milestone works on which pairs and what TF? thanks
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Hi Fredgold

Milestone ... was geared for M5 EU ... according to old information on the subject. Martingale and no boundaries for SL, always a disaster on a long term basis.
MadTrader ... was geared for M5 GBPJPY and there are other presets for other pairs such as EU. This EA is even worse ... back testing brought a 10K account to 450K in less than 10 months and lost everything with one trade. The problem is that trading on the right side of the screen could let you dry on the first trade. A member on this forum has a funny signature .... BackTesting = Holy Grail ... Forward testing = Holy Shit !!!

Hopefully I do not offend anybody by distracting from the current thread. I also doubt that there is anything valuable in the theory and code of Milestone and MadTrader that can assist Gotzaa in improving his EA.

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  • Apr 30, 2014 1:45am Apr 30, 2014 1:45am
  •  Patmontes
  • | Joined Feb 2014 | Status: Member | 395 Posts
don't worry no offense taken.

I was referring to the madtrader and milestones ability when to take trades(has a calendar function to avoid major news v22.5) and in what direction (madtrader adx rsi i think v8.7).
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 2:07am Apr 30, 2014 2:07am
  •  iamgotzaa
  • Joined Feb 2013 | Status: One step closer! | 764 Posts
quite a dd since yesterday
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  • Apr 30, 2014 2:10am Apr 30, 2014 2:10am
  •  iamgotzaa
  • Joined Feb 2013 | Status: One step closer! | 764 Posts
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{quote} I concur with you that manual intervention is acceptable. I actually never traded with an EA ... but use them for back testing a theory only. In this case, I just cannot understand why the trailing stop loss does not work all the time. The reason you gave yesterday makes sense if there is a gap or ticks are too fast and the calculation is not made. I will ask my programmer if he could understand what is wrong with the code or what situation can create this issue. Please advise on the type of report you want from participants. Maybe some...
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but rethink of the ticks

if it fail the first tick to trail, it should be able to do the next tick because I put it to do every tick function Start() or On_tick().

May be it's just fundamental error where the stop loss price I inserted is invalid.

Spar, do you get any error code from the Experts log tab?

gotzaa
Holy grail, pls pm
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 2:19am Apr 30, 2014 2:19am
  •  Spar
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
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{quote} but rethink of the ticks if it fail the first tick to trail, it should be able to do the next tick because I put it to do every tick function Start() or On_tick(). May be it's just fundamental error where the stop loss price I inserted is invalid. Spar, do you get any error code from the Experts log tab? gotzaa
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Your logic is very true and I do not have any error codes in Experts Log Tab.

In backtest ... the trailing stop works perfectly on all pairs.

As mentioned in previous post... if you don't have time for this issue, I will try next week to have this fixed with my programmer because I am not strong enough to code MQL yet.

Thanks
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 2:35am Apr 30, 2014 2:35am
  •  Spar
  • | Joined Apr 2014 | Status: Member | 24 Posts
Quoting Patmontes
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don't worry no offense taken. I was referring to the madtrader and milestones ability when to take trades(has a calendar function to avoid major news v22.5) and in what direction (madtrader adx rsi i think v8.7).
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Hi Patmontes

Yup ... I was thinking of your reference to those EAs and the calendar function to avoid news. That could be a nice feature but I could never get it to work properly.

With respect to RSI and ADX ... I think Gotzaa is a naked trader and does not rely on any diluted indicator that derives from price action. He seems to rely exclusively on the price action, it's range, the current position within that range and the theory that supply and demand will weaken after a certain excessive push in either direction.... whereby counter trend opportunity kicks in on the retrace or change of direction.

So in that perspective, I doubt that we can find any dragging indicator that can help this algorithm.

Nonetheless, those EAs were really fun to backtest.

Good trading.
 
 
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  • Apr 30, 2014 3:01am Apr 30, 2014 3:01am
  •  belka
  • | Joined Jan 2009 | Status: Member | 62 Posts
Quoting iamgotzaa
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{quote} What I coded in there for Recovery is if positions are less than 4, it think it can take some pips out of current ATR some pips for profit is squeeze_factor (0.3) x ATR means i would like to have only 30% from current ATR (depends on the session they are recovering) so if ATR is too low, and 30% of it is too less, then i would take 3 pips (just enough to buy a candy ^_^ ) if positions are more than 4 but less than 8 (we are in deep shit) I would take just a half of 30%ATR --> if 30%ATR is 3 pips, then I take 1.5 pips (which in high spread...
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Thanks Iamgotzaa for the explanation of recovery process. But does the v66ba have trailing stop? And how will the pairs that are in profit be closed? There are some pairs with over 100 points profit but the Stop Loss remain 3 points.
Thanks,
 
 
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