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  • #8,381
  • Mar 19, 2014 8:38pm Mar 19, 2014 8:38pm
Quoting forexpiet
{quote} Hi pampaq, Does this "weak" refer to the last up move not reaching the former highs? Do the "strengths" refer to the up and down moves which reached their respective zones? Could you explain please, thanks!
Sorry for the delay I was doing some analysis and I could not deal with your request.
I send a file to look at Mr Pips repeatedly ORDER FLOW .
There, defines each of the variables in the order flow , and in turn introduces a concept EXPECTED VERY imporant .
As for the timing , post 8373 , Kuma explains MMTUM fine.
If you divide the number of pips by the number of candles that led this, you have a measure of MMTUM .
You can also visually seeing increasing or decreasing the angle of an SH or SH and another one the following SL and SL.
Then you must compare the SH angle with the angle of the SL.
If the series , for example, was, strong SH SH SL strong and weak , should start a SL, WE HOPE is 100 % of the previous move .
In turn you should check that the MMTUM is similar or stronger , to reach 100 % , if weaker than the previous SL may not reach 100 % and reach some level FIBS 61 % or 78 %.
Ok greetings, looking CASTILLA DAMIAN videos on you tube , to complete this.
at your service
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8eGrIvlCBQ
  • #8,382
  • Mar 20, 2014 2:54am Mar 20, 2014 2:54am
Quoting pampaq
{quote} Sorry for the delay I was doing some analysis and I could not deal with your request. I send a file to look at Mr Pips repeatedly ORDER FLOW . There, defines each of the variables in the order flow , and in turn introduces a concept EXPECTED VERY imporant . As for the timing , post 8373 , Kuma explains MMTUM fine. If you divide the number of pips by the number of candles that led this, you have a measure of MMTUM . You can also visually seeing increasing or decreasing the angle of an SH or SH and another one the following SL and SL. Then...
Thanks for explaining. I will watch the video's.
Posting Demo charts, mirroring some of them live.
  • #8,383
  • Mar 21, 2014 2:55pm Mar 21, 2014 2:55pm
I've gotten into Harmonics as of recent. Good to find a thread dedicated to this method.

Would this be a good start to Order Flow Analysis?
I would think, based on the fact of higher lows, we'd expect a retest of the prior high. The Alternate Bat I've highlighted is invalidated due to the allotted time patterns should complete in has passed but I want to observe how it'll play out.
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  • #8,384
  • Mar 21, 2014 4:30pm Mar 21, 2014 4:30pm
Quoting UpComerFX
I've gotten into Harmonics as of recent. Good to find a thread dedicated to this method. Would this be a good start to Order Flow Analysis? I would think, based on the fact of higher lows, we'd expect a retest of the prior high. The Alternate Bat I've highlighted is invalidated due to the allotted time patterns should complete in has passed but I want to observe how it'll play out. {image}
Hello UpComerFX - I'm not an expert but this is how I view the scenario. For myself, and I'm just speaking for myself, I wouldn't take the Bat because I would need a candle close above the 38.6% retracement level and touches the 50% level plus the C Point needs to be in the 61.8 - 78.6 Retrace area, and its to close to the weekend for a small pattern. I wouldn't want to hold on to it over the weekend. That’s just my personal preference.


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  • #8,385
  • Edited 7:49pm Mar 21, 2014 7:37pm | Edited 7:49pm
Quoting Mack2013
{quote} Hello UpComerFX - I'm not an expert but this is how I view the scenario. For myself, and I'm just speaking for myself, I wouldn't take the Bat because I would need a candle close above the 38.6% retracement level and touches the 50% level plus the C Point needs to be in the 61.8 - 78.6 Retrace area, and its to close to the weekend for a small pattern. I wouldn't want to hold on to it over the weekend. That’s just my personal preference. {image}
You're absolutely right, I was never planning on taking that trade. The odds wouldn't be in my favor. Your correct, Bat patterns should touch the 50%. ALT Bat patterns, however, have B points at 38.2% or less.
From a larger perspective, a Deep Crab completed at those lows. I didn't take that trade because I'd feel more confident finding a short in this market.
EDIT: Where we formed the Weak New High, was also a completion of a Daily AB=CD. We're at the 38.2% right now, do you fall further to the 61.8%?
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  • #8,386
  • Mar 21, 2014 7:49pm Mar 21, 2014 7:49pm
Quoting UpComerFX
{quote} You're absolutely right, I was never planning on taking that trade. The odds wouldn't be in my favor. Your correct, Bat patterns should touch the 50%. ALT Bat patterns, however, have B points at 38.2% or less. From a larger perspective, a Deep Crab completed at those lows. I didn't take that trade because I'd feel more confident finding a short in this market. {image}
I'm glad, I can help. I dont really trade the crab but it seems to be going in the right direction. But I agree, go with the flow. Have a good weekend.
  • #8,387
  • Mar 23, 2014 8:27pm Mar 23, 2014 8:27pm
A fellow FF member was asking for the MA I use. Here's the original file containing the indicator.
You're welcome in advance.
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  • #8,388
  • Mar 24, 2014 8:51pm Mar 24, 2014 8:51pm
Nice example here. Bat within a Butterfly.
1st Bat hit 38.2 and 61.8 and this current one is a couple pips away from 38.2.
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  • #8,389
  • Mar 24, 2014 10:38pm Mar 24, 2014 10:38pm
Although I've been aware of Harmonics before stumbling upon this thread, one thing I've learned is the aggressive C Buy/Sell. My first opportunity potentially lies ahead.
NZD/USD Gartley in formation. If anyone sees a problem, feel free to lend the advice. C point contains 61.8-78.6 fib, recent structure to the left, and long term trend line dating back to '11.
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  • #8,390
  • Mar 28, 2014 11:54am Mar 28, 2014 11:54am
The strength of the ONE TO ONE and fibs to view PRZ, and then pull back to 38% of the whole movement, and to get strength and weakness at points where decisions are made.
regards
Breaking MS in 30M, 1M then continuous monitoring, and expecting a full Pull Back.
Alli ABC and D monitors for this SW D is strong or weak.
If it is weak will be rejected and so we long to 38%, then if there is acceleration to 62%. So, I learned from Mr Pips.
regards
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  • #8,391
  • Mar 29, 2014 9:58am Mar 29, 2014 9:58am
Good morning. I was just building my trading / business plan and I had a question about support & resistance and strength & weakness maybe I can get some light on. Any opinion is welcome.

I've been reading that the area of support & resistance gets weaker every time it has been encountered but i was under the impression that it gets stronger because of respect.

Are we both right? Does it become stronger with each encounter that’s respected and weaker with each encounter that’s been abused??

Anybody's thoughts are welcomed, thanks.
  • #8,392
  • Mar 31, 2014 12:53pm Mar 31, 2014 12:53pm
Quoting Mack2013
Good morning. I was just building my trading / business plan and I had a question about support & resistance and strength & weakness maybe I can get some light on. Any opinion is welcome. I've been reading that the area of support & resistance gets weaker every time it has been encountered but i was under the impression that it gets stronger because of respect. Are we both right? Does it become stronger with each encounter that’s respected and weaker with each encounter that’s been abused?? Anybody's thoughts are welcomed, thanks.
Hi Mack,my 2 cents, whenever a demand or supply area is visited, pending orders that have not previously been able to run run, so it is becoming weaker.
At least until emergence of new buyers and sellers.
regards
  • #8,393
  • Mar 31, 2014 5:11pm Mar 31, 2014 5:11pm
Quoting pampaq
{quote} Hi Mack,my 2 cents, whenever a demand or supply area is visited, pending orders that have not previously been able to run run, so it is becoming weaker. At least until emergence of new buyers and sellers. regards
Thanks for the input. Good trading
  • #8,394
  • Apr 1, 2014 2:09pm Apr 1, 2014 2:09pm
Few pips, but exemplary strength and weakness and strong support.
regards
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  • #8,395
  • Apr 4, 2014 12:55pm Apr 4, 2014 12:55pm
Quoting pampaq
Few pips, but exemplary strength and weakness and strong support. regards {image} {image} {image} {image} {image} {image}
Good morning Pampaq. I noticed you used the AB=CD, ABCD Harmonics alot. In the last chart you posted I observed you use a C point higher then the A point (for a Bullish pattern. In your experience does it matter?

I was also wondering, if you take a position on completion or wait for some kind of confirmation?

Thank you.
  • #8,396
  • Apr 7, 2014 6:48am Apr 7, 2014 6:48am
Quoting Mack2013
{quote} Good morning Pampaq. I noticed you used the AB=CD, ABCD Harmonics alot. In the last chart you posted I observed you use a C point higher then the A point (for a Bullish pattern. In your experience does it matter? I was also wondering, if you take a position on completion or wait for some kind of confirmation? Thank you.
Hi Mack 2013
There not looking for an AB = CD , it is only a Full Pull back , CPB , and a failed attempt to attack the media again, which gives evidence that the bears are recalled
It's an ABC zig zag correction , with a failed attempt below.
At that time, in D , D Sw analyze whether this is strong or weak , if you have acceleration or deceleration in D.
If manifest weakness, then enter long in this case . if manifest acceleration, have the expectation that it will break the SM or DZ .
In turn, the break may have force or be rejected, and there detected that aside this weakness and take advantage of this fact.
Therefore analysis of strengths and weaknesses in the areas of support and the demand areas. With these two well- identified things you can have an advantage.
I also applied to identify differences with CCI14 . optional
S and R or SZ or DZ , more Mmtum , projection and depth , strength and weakness, fibs and divergences.
Putting aside the divergences , the rest was taught by Mr Pips , which are still waiting .
regards
  • #8,397
  • Apr 7, 2014 6:54am Apr 7, 2014 6:54am
Quoting pampaq
{quote} Hi Mack 2013 There not looking for an AB = CD , it is only a Full Pull back , CPB , and a failed attempt to attack the media again, which gives evidence that the bears are recalled It's an ABC zig zag correction , with a failed attempt below. At that time, in D , D Sw analyze whether this is strong or weak , if you have acceleration or deceleration in D. If manifest weakness, then enter long in this case . if manifest acceleration, have the expectation that it will break the SM or DZ . In turn, the break may have force or be rejected, and...
some expectations that we analyzed the weekend.
Oxo is only likely paths.
regards
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  • #8,398
  • Apr 7, 2014 9:15am Apr 7, 2014 9:15am
The process of Sm rebound or Demand Zone.
It is a complete pull back, then ABC and D, there measuring strength and weakness of D.
If weak then I'm long.
My TP in areas of supply, and Resistances.
regards
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  • #8,399
  • Apr 7, 2014 10:27am Apr 7, 2014 10:27am
Another example of an ABC pullback D in full, and then evaluation of strength and weakness, TP or SZ Sm.
regards
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  • #8,400
  • Apr 7, 2014 5:56pm Apr 7, 2014 5:56pm
Quoting pampaq
{quote} some expectations that we analyzed the weekend. Oxo is only likely paths. regards {image} {image} {image}
Example complied with as 38% of the TP ONE TO ONE. published yesterday.
regards
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