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  • #221
  • Feb 14, 2014 7:34am Feb 14, 2014 7:34am
Quoting pgtips
{quote} I'll try that, is that on the first page or somewhere else? Is it possible to have a 4 hour chart generate a 8 and a 12 hour one ? i.e add 2 copies of this indicator to a chart? PG
you can generate whichever time frames you like
aslong as there is enough history data
  • #222
  • Edited 2:50pm Feb 14, 2014 2:40pm | Edited 2:50pm
An update has been added to post #1.

2014-02-14: Uploaded "P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4" (still v1.11)

Changes: None. It was simply compiled using build 509, and it appears to be compatible with the new builds >=600.
Fyi, the posted v1.11 .mq4 file is NOT compatible with the new builds. It will require code changes. Should you need to make custom edits, you can use your own (old) copy of 509, or find the 509 MetaEditor posted elsewhere that you can use to edit and re-compile to make your own .ex4 file.
  • #223
  • Edited 4:34am Feb 17, 2014 1:20am | Edited 4:34am
hi Kent,
i'm experiencing a really weird behavouir:

i used your indi for month, now with build 600 under win7 64 bit the offline chart are no more updating....

so i read there was the new 509 build.
i got it 1.11 509, the last one in the first post.

i put it in the MQL4 indicators folder.

only when i click on the source online chart, it seem to work...
i clicked on import dll too....

can you help me understanding what is going on?^
i put in only the compiled ex4 not the mql one.


now i m getting mad couse i really do not know what else i can do!)

thanks ,in advance,

mat
  • #224
  • Edited 3:02pm Feb 17, 2014 11:17am | Edited 3:02pm
Quoting forextik
hi Kent, i'm experiencing a really weird behavouir: i used your indi for month, now with build 600 under win7 64 bit the offline chart are no more updating.... so i read there was the new 509 build. i got it 1.11 509, the last one in the first post. i put it in the MQL4 indicators folder. only when i click on the source online chart, it seem to work... i clicked on import dll too.... can you help me understanding what is going on?^ i put in only the compiled ex4 not the mql one. now i m getting mad couse i really do not know what else i can do!)...
Mat,

I have win7x64, and XP. My XP has 600 and it works. On my Win7 I have just tested 610 and it also works. (That said, on my primary Win7, I am sticking with old 509 installations and avoiding use of >=600 builds until they settle down and stop making updates every 1-2 freaking days. )


On Win7, I use a shortcut to start up the terminal, and have edited the shortcut so that the Target says, exactly with and without quotes as follows:
"C:\Users\Kent\MT4 MBT 600\terminal.exe" /portable

Therefore, my indicators avoid UAC and the stupid/complicated long path. I can then put the ex4 here:
C:\Users\Kent\MT4 MBT 600\MQL4\Indicators\P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4

I have no idea what you mean when you say, "only when i click on the source online chart, it seem to work". Click??? After adding the indicator, there is no further "click" in the source chart to be done. Are you following the directions in post #1?

1. Open an H1 chart. For this example, use "EURUSD,H1", but it can be anything.
2. Add the sample template below. This adds two instances of "P4L PeriodCon 509" to the chart. DLLs are enabled.
One generates base+7H,H4; the other base+7H,Daily.
(Fyi, I happen to have a broker that uses GMT-5 charts, so if I want to see what GMT+2 charts look like, this is what I use).

3. FOREVER keep that source H1 chart open. There is no further need to "click" nor "Refresh" nor do anything further with it. You can minimize it; just don't close it.

4. Then use menu command: File->Open Offline -->>> navigate to "EURUSD+7H,H4", select it and click "Open".
5. Do the same to open up the "EURUSD+7H,Daily".
(Tip: If you want to control the colors and setup of the offline charts, setup one of the offline charts as you want it. Then create a template and call it "offline". Be sure that the F8/Properties->Common tab->"Offline charts" button is selected).

Given that you still have your source H1 chart open, then both of the offline charts should be updating, live, whenever a new source chart tick comes in.

WARNING: Be certain that you don't have more than one source chart open that is trying to generate the SAME offline chart as another source chart. You can have multiple source charts, and multiple instances of the indicator on any source chart, but don't ever try to generate exactly the same offline chart more than once. Easiest way to check is to quit and restart MT4. The popup messages from my indicator will tell you which offline charts are being actively generated. Compare the names and make sure there are no duplicates.

Works for me. If not for you, I have absolutely no idea why not.


Edit: Template removed. Go to post#1 instead.
  • #225
  • Edited 3:03pm Feb 17, 2014 12:20pm | Edited 3:03pm
An update has been added to post #1.

2014-02-17: Uploaded sample 509 templates (Build 600+ compatible)

Changes:
Two sample templates are available below. They are identical, except with respect to what indicator name is used.
One assumes use of "P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4". The other assumes use of "P4L PeriodCon.ex4". (Both based on v1.11).
I don't care which name you use for the base indicator. Your choice.

Use the appropriate template with any H1 chart. It will generate two offline charts: base+7H,H4 and base+7H,Daily

The generated H4 and Daily charts are timeshifted by +7H. Why? These are intended for use with GMT-5 broker feeds (i.e. those who match NewYork U.S. Eastern Time). If you have such a GMT-5 broker, you can use this template to generate GMT+2 charts. Fyi, GMT+2 Daily charts normally have 5-Daily-bars-per-week, and 30-H4-bars-per-week. GMT-5 charts (and most every other time feed) have 6-Daily-bars-per-week, and 31-H4-bars-per-week. I like to compare the two, because the broker feed affects, for example, the slopes of trendlines, pitchforks, etc.


New users: Regardless of your broker GMT+??, use these templates to get started, just to prove you can generate and open offline charts. Then customize the settings and create your own desired template(s) that suit your own needs. If you want M10 or H2 charts... then customize. If your broker has a different GMT offset, then use a different timeshift value to customize as desired.

(see post#1 for the files)
  • #226
  • Edited 5:39pm Feb 17, 2014 4:33pm | Edited 5:39pm
hi kent , when i say i click on the h1 chart....it means that i have in the background a source, that is not offline....it is online and is the h1 chart (eurusd ie).

as soon as a click on that chart, the offline one ,that periodconv is converting in a daily chart, get updated....this is what i tried to say!!

this is weird....

however i tried just now.
this is what i do:
create an h1 chart eurusd
add P4lperiodconv 509
and set it to multiplier 24 hours shift in bar +2

then i choose that chart in the offline button.
till now it s ok but when i change profile, and then come back to the same profile, the chart is no more updating!
i do not know if this is a bug...but this is what happens to me....
ah , and then when i click on the h1 chart i get the popup alarm telling me i have to open a new offline chart, even if i have already one!!

it is like if it stop refreshing when i change profile....while before was workiing now it is no more....

if you want i can let you team viewer....


m
  • #227
  • Feb 17, 2014 7:26pm Feb 17, 2014 7:26pm
Quoting forextik
hi kent , when i say i click on the h1 chart....it means that i have in the background a source, that is not offline....it is online and is the h1 chart (eurusd ie). as soon as a click on that chart, the offline one ,that periodconv is converting in a daily chart, get updated....this is what i tried to say!! this is weird.... however i tried just now. this is what i do: create an h1 chart eurusd add P4lperiodconv 509 and set it to multiplier 24 hours shift in bar +2 then i choose that chart in the offline button. till now it s ok but when i change...
Hi Mat,

Ok. Given your better more detailed description -- which turns out to be subtle but very critical -- I have reproduced the MT4 bug. I'm very glad to now be aware of it, because it affects ALL indicators that are iconified, whenever one switches profiles. I filed a Service Request at www.mql5.com (yes 5, even though its MT4).

You have two choices:
1) Stop using profiles. I never do, myself. I install MT4 in multiple parallel folders, and I run several simultaneously. If you have a modern computer with decent CPU (esp. multiple cores) and enough RAM, it should work fine.
2) If you keep using profiles, un-iconify the source chart. (Also un-iconify every other chart that generates alerts or runs EA's, etc.) They aren't going to work until MQ fixes this serious bug.

Here's the Service Request text that I filed:
Title: Build 610. Iconified charts stay completely inactive after switching profiles! SERIOUS BUG!
Plenty of users have indicators that cause alerts or other updates that must occur even when the chart is iconified. This is normally true, and was true in 509, but in 610, the BUG is that if you switch profiles back-and-forth with another profile, those charts that are still iconified are NOT getting updated at all! The net result is that alerts/updates/etc. are completely disabled. This is completely unacceptable.

I'm sure you can use anything to reproduce this, but attached is my "P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4". (Same problem occurs for native 610 compiled indicators!)
1. Open any H1 chart
2. Add my "P4L PeriodCon 509" indicator. The defaults are fine, and it will generate an H2 chart.
3. File->Open Offline -> select the H2 chart that is being generated.
4. Iconify the source H1 chart. DO NOT CLOSE IT.
5. Observe that with new ticks, the offline chart is still getting live tick updates.
6. Observe which is the current profile name (e.g. "Default"). Now change the profile to any other profile. (e.g. "Euro")
7. Change back to the previous profile name. (e.g. "Default").
8. Observe that the offline chart is NOT getting live updates!
9. Un-iconify the source H1 chart.
10. Observe that the instant popup message from my indicator now tells you the indicator is working and active, and is now generating the H2 offline chart.
11. Observe that the H2 chart is once again getting live tick updates.
12. Repeat steps 5-7, without first iconifying the source H1 chart.
13. Observe that when you came back to this profile, you see the popup message from my indicator, and that the H2 offline chart is getting live updates.
The only difference is whether or not the source H1 chart was iconified or not when you switched back to the original profile.

This behavior is completely unacceptable! Suppose it had been an EA managing trades?? The behavior might be the same for EA's as it is for Indicators. I don't know, but even if this bug only affects Indicators, it is still unacceptable. Many indies give alerts, and they will be totally disabled and useless until this behavior is fixed.

NOTE: Although I am providing a 509 .ex4 file to reproduce this bug, it is NOT important that this is a 509 compiled file. I can reproduce exactly the same behavior with 610 compiled indicators also.
(the "P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4" can be found online at FF).
  • #228
  • Feb 17, 2014 7:35pm Feb 17, 2014 7:35pm
Oh CRAP! This MT4 (build 610) bug is even worse than I thought. Just restarting MT4 has the same effect as switching profiles! Therefore, you cannot have ANY iconified charts after an MT4 restart *if* those chart do any updates, EA's, or alerts. They will be inactive until un-iconified!

ATTENTION "P4L PeriodCon" USERS WITH BUILD>=574 and <=610+?? : Until this bug is fixed, you must un-iconify your source chart after an MT4 restart, or after changing profiles. Alternative: Never iconify your MT4 source chart. Leave it full size. SAME goes for any charts that generate alerts from any indicator!

(If this turns out to be an inaccurate claim on my part, I apologize, but this is what the evidence suggests to me).
  • #229
  • Feb 17, 2014 9:43pm Feb 17, 2014 9:43pm
Hey guys,
I've been using Periodcon for a long time and just recently installed the newest update but now I'm finding that whenever I view a new chart, I get an annoying alert. It happens every time I change my chart. Is there any way to stop this?? I view my charts by dragging the pair from the left side one by one. I've attached a screenshot of the alert that I get. If anyone knows how to turn this off, please let me know!!
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  • #230
  • Edited 10:35pm Feb 17, 2014 10:22pm | Edited 10:35pm
Quoting ShawnS
Hey guys, I've been using Periodcon for a long time and just recently installed the newest update but now I'm finding that whenever I view a new chart, I get an annoying alert. It happens every time I change my chart. Is there any way to stop this?? I view my charts by dragging the pair from the left side one by one. I've attached a screenshot of the alert that I get. If anyone knows how to turn this off, please let me know!! {image}
Almost certainly you are using the indicator incorrectly, and so far as the popup alert is concerned, I know of no new change.

Your main chart is a Daily chart. When you drag a new pair onto it, it will reinitialize the chart. All indicators get restarted. The popup is a normal alert for a chart with "P4L PeriodCon" attached to it.

The thing is, the indicator doesn't do anything to the source chart itself, so, what would be the point? Unless of course, yours is a two-step process where you look at 2 different charts. Step 1: Drag the pair onto the Daily chart that has PeriodCon. Step 2, drag the same pair onto the offline D2 chart. (I don't even know that this will work like this for offline charts; I've only ever used the File-Open Offline menu command for this purpose. EDIT: No, you can't drag-and-drop a pair name onto an offline chart. You must use the menu command.).


If yours are the same steps as before, I would question why you're doing it this way.

However, to address the point that you now see a popup every time, then you probably had changed one of the default variables. "LimitedAlertsEnabled" is true by default. You probably had set it to false (which you can certainly do again as you add PeriodCon to a new chart). If false, there will be no popup alert like those you mentioned except for fatal errors such as DLL's are not enabled.
  • #231
  • Feb 18, 2014 1:00am Feb 18, 2014 1:00am
Quoting pips4life
Oh CRAP! This MT4 (build 610) bug is even worse than I thought. Just restarting MT4 has the same effect as switching profiles! Therefore, you cannot have ANY iconified charts after an MT4 restart *if* those chart do any updates, EA's, or alerts. They will be inactive until un-iconified! ATTENTION "P4L PeriodCon" USERS WITH BUILD>=574 and <=610+?? : Until this bug is fixed, you must un-iconify your source chart after an MT4 restart, or after changing profiles. Alternative: Never iconify your MT4 source chart. Leave it full size. SAME goes for any...


)) GREAT!! JOB KENT

i know in metaquotes are very fast doing bug correction, i hope, seeing how many different build they created in the last weeks!!!!

i can say we will help not a few the mt4 community!!!

and thanks for the tip to keep un iconified chart, i will try!
and see u here to find the new build and see if it works!

cheers,

Mat
  • #232
  • Feb 18, 2014 7:15am Feb 18, 2014 7:15am
Quoting pips4life
An update has been added to post #1. 2014-02-14: Uploaded "P4L PeriodCon 509.ex4" (still v1.11) Changes: None. It was simply compiled using build 509, and it appears to be compatible with the new builds >=600. Fyi, the posted v1.11 .mq4 file is NOT compatible with the new builds. It will require code changes. Should you need to make custom edits, you can use your own (old) copy of 509, or find the 509 MetaEditor posted elsewhere that you can use to edit and re-compile to make your...
Hi pips4life, since mt4 updating I haven't been able to update using this ex4 file, win7 won't let me! I've gone through program files (x86) and localappdata, got admin control and everything...my normal way is to open using metaeditor and compile the script so it saves via mt4, but as this is an ex4 I cannot do so!

Please help me in letting me know how I can utilise the ex4... no timeframe flexibility is really choking!
  • #233
  • Feb 18, 2014 8:29am Feb 18, 2014 8:29am
Hey Pips4Life,

brilliant work here, I've reinstalled an old MT4 and happy to run with that.

I asked about generating 2 charts off of a 4hr chart. I would like to achieve an 8hr and a 12hr from a 4 hr chart.

Do I need to have a unique ID for each instance of the indicator, I tried loading it twice with a different name but it was not happy (forever waiting for update and my other chart stopped as well
What I would like to avoid is 2 x 4hr charts simultaneously running to generate 2 more charts.

Is this even possible ?

thank you
PG
  • #234
  • Feb 18, 2014 9:15am Feb 18, 2014 9:15am
Quoting Blad4
{quote} Hi pips4life, since mt4 updating I haven't been able to update using this ex4 file, win7 won't let me! I've gone through program files (x86) and localappdata, got admin control and everything...my normal way is to open using metaeditor and compile the script so it saves via mt4, but as this is an ex4 I cannot do so! Please help me in letting me know how I can utilise the ex4... no timeframe flexibility is really choking!
There is plenty of confusion after the 600+ update. I don't have all the answers, and especially so since I'm one of those who is sticking with 509. I am getting dragged into it kicking and screaming.

I'm not your best resource for this. All I know is that in 600+, use menu command File->Open Data Folder. Navigate into the MQL4/Indicators/ folder, and put the .ex4 file there. At that point, I just restart MT4 to make it recognize the new file. There's probably an easier way, but as you say, since it's just an .ex4, you can't just "compile" it again to force an update.

If this doesn't help, sorry I have no cycles to help further. Good luck.
  • #235
  • Feb 18, 2014 9:24am Feb 18, 2014 9:24am
Quoting pgtips
Hey Pips4Life, brilliant work here, I've reinstalled an old MT4 and happy to run with that. I asked about generating 2 charts off of a 4hr chart. I would like to achieve an 8hr and a 12hr from a 4 hr chart. Do I need to have a unique ID for each instance of the indicator, I tried loading it twice with a different name but it was not happy (forever waiting for update and my other chart stopped as well What I would like to avoid is 2 x 4hr charts simultaneously running to generate 2 more charts. Is this even possible ? thank you PG
I attach this indicator multiple times to a single source chart all the time. On each instance I use either all defaults (PerMult=2), or I only change the PeriodMultiplier and/or the timeshift values and/or InvertChart. All the offline charts get generated, and I can open as many offline charts as I want, and all of them get updated with live ticks.

I've no idea why this wouldn't be working in 509. Good luck.
  • #236
  • Feb 18, 2014 11:12am Feb 18, 2014 11:12am
Quoting pips4life
{quote} There is plenty of confusion after the 600+ update. I don't have all the answers, and especially so since I'm one of those who is sticking with 509. I am getting dragged into it kicking and screaming. I'm not your best resource for this. All I know is that in 600+, use menu command File->Open Data Folder. Navigate into the MQL4/Indicators/ folder, and put the .ex4 file there. At that point, I just restart MT4 to make it recognize the new file. There's probably an easier way, but as you say, since it's just an .ex4, you can't just "compile"...

but is it possible to use a sort of universal mt4 for each broker???

i d like using 509....but how can i ???
the fxcm one is no more available....do you have a 509 i can use with fxcm too?

mat
  • #237
  • Feb 18, 2014 2:28pm Feb 18, 2014 2:28pm
Quoting pips4life
{quote} There is plenty of confusion after the 600+ update. I don't have all the answers, and especially so since I'm one of those who is sticking with 509. I am getting dragged into it kicking and screaming. I'm not your best resource for this. All I know is that in 600+, use menu command File->Open Data Folder. Navigate into the MQL4/Indicators/ folder, and put the .ex4 file there. At that point, I just restart MT4 to make it recognize the new file. There's probably an easier way, but as you say, since it's just an .ex4, you can't just "compile"...
You sorted it. Amazing man, thank you!
  • #238
  • Feb 26, 2014 5:10am Feb 26, 2014 5:10am
Is it possible to change P4L PeriodCon 509 or original Period Converter Optimized so that we can choose different Timeframe not what PeriodMultiplier gives us.
Example: PeriodMultiplier=2 on 1M chart give us offline chart M2, but i want to use M102
  • #239
  • Feb 27, 2014 11:42am Feb 27, 2014 11:42am
@pips4live : I posted that on a few forums, but never got an answer to it:

"hello guys, does any of you know a indi/ea that can do:
create an offline chart that shows only the main trading time of an index (like dax or s&p), and not an 24 hour chart. Would be great, if it would have starting time and ending time and timeframe(1min, 5min...60min) as an input.
why? because drawing trendlines on an 24 hour-chart where 16 hours do not have real volume doesn´t make much sense imho...
maybe one of you can change the code of an renko/rangebar ea or indicator to do that. I tried, but that is far beyond my coding skills.
or is it not possible to do something like that? "

today I found your indicator, and I think thats almost what I was looking for. only the inputs for starting time and ending time would have to be added. could you please do that for me, would be a great help for me. doesn´t matter which version, because I have build 509 and 600 running.
  • #240
  • Edited Mar 3, 2014 2:24pm Mar 2, 2014 7:39pm | Edited Mar 3, 2014 2:24pm
Thank you pips4life! you're a life saver.
I trade through Armada and they recently switched from GMT+0 to GMT+2 and when I retested my strategy on the new 4hr charts it didn't work half as well. No I just have to give it a day or to till the moving averages adjust their positions and I can start trading with the GMT+0 again through your indicator.

A couple of things that would really help if someone can help me with
1)The 1 click trading screen doesn't work when I'm on the new 4hr offline chart.
2)The spread indicators don't work when applied to the chart
3) The remaining candle time is calculated on the other chart not the offline one.
4)The order lines (Entry SL TP) do not appear on the chart.

Thanks again pips4life
Cheers
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