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  • #44,921
  • Edited 9:43am Feb 9, 2014 9:32am | Edited 9:43am
Quoting fti
{quote} huh? whats that? floor screwing? is hug own shoulders, snap twist then for rib align check. hug self under arm pit left to right , right to left , snap twist. use momentum no use energy.
nono, the picture is for clarify the exercise for the upper spinal straightening. so please only look at the hands. want to clarify the hands. because you mentioned "closed palm together to the left" earlier, but ltr mentioned no close palm. so want to check if the palm should be like those in the picture or not
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  • #44,922
  • Edited 10:09am Feb 9, 2014 9:43am | Edited 10:09am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} nono, this one want to clarify the exercise for the upper spinal straightening. so please only look at the hands. want to clarify the hands. because you mentioned palm together, but ltr mentioned no close palm. so want to check if the palm should be like those in the picture or not
nono. is palms together. stretch straight out.
like make fingers arrow point at something.
arms straight stretch out. like you said , paralell to floor. like inverted L.
You know how buddha prays? but arms straight out. palms tobether.

moneykum, shake head that indian greetings. you no need do.

just follow with turtle neck. UPWARDS.
you will feel a gentle pull on your spinal.
if cracking means aligning. remember no use force.

other wise is aligned.

and no forget point leftside, as far as possible without forcing will feel pull on shoulders and pressure on spine.
then do the turtle. also right side.
  • #44,923
  • Feb 9, 2014 9:47am Feb 9, 2014 9:47am
Quoting fti
{quote} nono. is palms together. stretch straight out. like make fingers arrow point at something. arms straight stretch out. You know how buddha prays? but arms straight out. palms tobether. moneykum
great, understood
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  • #44,924
  • Edited 10:52am Feb 9, 2014 10:22am | Edited 10:52am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} great, understood

remember whenever dealing with bone structure and spinal never force.
if stuck, repeat again and again to unstuck.
the less force you use the easier to unstuck.

regards

Sifu Hwang's most important lessons for me. "Sung" How use force.
no need use brute force, send back the force that applied to one.
the returning force will be 2X the approaching force.
This because when force is appied , comes build it own momentum.
When returned is force + momentum.
  • #44,925
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:50am Feb 9, 2014 10:50am
Quoting fti
{quote} Sifu Hwang's most important lessons for me. "Sung" How use force. no need use brute force, send back the force that applied to one. the returning force will be 2X the approaching force.
this is very interesting - i recall seeing another vid on this thread previously, should be the same Sifu Hwang that you mentioned, in that vid, he was repelling people 1 by 1 effortless. Where can i learn more about this please?
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  • #44,926
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:54am Feb 9, 2014 10:54am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} this is very interesting - i recall seeing another vid on this thread previously, should be the same Sifu Hwang that you mentioned, in that vid, he was repelling people 1 by 1 effortless. Where can i learn more about this please?
sorry, sifu is no longer with us.
but there are other masters.

regards
  • #44,927
  • Feb 9, 2014 11:15am Feb 9, 2014 11:15am
Quoting fti
{quote} sorry, sifu is no longer with us. but there are other masters. regards
May peace be with him. May I ask who teaches that in SG? Also, in terms of foundational text studies to the concepts such as dantian - are there such text?
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  • #44,928
  • Edited 1:02pm Feb 9, 2014 11:20am | Edited 1:02pm
Quoting Jacque
{quote} May peace be with him. May I ask who teaches that in SG? Also, in terms of foundational text studies to the concepts such as dantian - are there such text?
sifu had many understudies. They all over the world. If asked they will tell who their teacher.
every school of chinese martial arts teach diantian energies.
even those not of chinese.

Is not able learn from text, need learn from practitioners. if they willing teach.
Is learned from breathing exercises, most martial arts teachers knows how harnnes it, techniques differs school to school.
Dantian is core body energy, is resides in body center of gravity. sometime called chi. Body styles and movements is delivery of that chi + momentum. i e inertia
Is not alien to anyone, is basics in everyone. But must learn how focus and direct for proper delivery only.Is not visible because is energy field. Lives in your body behind your stomach.

Because is energy force, disorientation disperses its strength. Is most strong when focused. Lots practise required to learn how to move it, as it has its own rhythm. When moved body experiences displeasure, it quickly return to its nest.

I seen how some himilayan monks had learned how use it deliver heat to skin, makes them impervious to cold.
also was taught that it can be used as heat energy assist body healing. But i cannot say much because is not science and i no prove if its helping me or not. And i still taking my aspirins.
For me i can delivery energy burst of it, but is very tiring afterwards. These days i try not practise too strongly because afterwards i turn very pail and goose hairs stands on ends. (mom's words was "ghost faced.") Sifu Hwangs warm up exercises are good, milder chi, feels serene after it than doing white crane that he taught me. But my crane not steady, more like wobbly(drunken) crane.

If you like you can find , there many teachers, and only way is to do the taught breathings and you can feel it. many techniques.

regards
  • #44,929
  • Feb 9, 2014 12:33pm Feb 9, 2014 12:33pm
Quoting fti
{quote} sifu had many understudies. They all over the world. If asked they will tell who their teacher. every school of chinese martial arts teach diantian energies. even those not of chinese. Is not able learn from text, need learn from practitioners. if they willing teach. Is learned from breathing exercises, most martial arts teachers knows how harnnes it, techniques differs school to school. Dantian is core body energy, is resides in body center of gravity. sometime called chi. Body styles and movements is delivery of that chi + momentum....
i see.. sometime back, I have briefly read of an experiment where the monk stayed out in the water or cold (something like that) and he was able to generate heat and maintain his body warm.. this is same as you mentioned of the himilayan monks. very interesting art.. it's on my to be explored list. Appreciate your sharing this much and thanks hitting the sack.. gd nite all
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  • #44,930
  • Edited 8:10pm Feb 9, 2014 7:35pm | Edited 8:10pm
Quoting Zoran
I think we've seen this before but thought I'd repost. Enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUj65M4T1cg
WOW what a Rush -- Thanks.

Quoting -Michael-
Hello FTI You since you love music and alway and always sharing with us music that you love i want to share youtube song of one of the famous Israeli Singers .......l
Very Nice -- Thanks

Quoting indianguyinny24
An emperor in the Far East ...........
I am sharing this story with loved ones - Thanks

Regards
ksl

ps - I think we should be on facebook too as a group ..... just a thought.
  • #44,931
  • Edited 9:02pm Feb 9, 2014 7:48pm | Edited 9:02pm
Quoting fti
{quote} thank you Jacque I do spine allignment every other day.......... Is stressing everybody else , every related organs. and evry body's related. regards http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ytc07catJ3c http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjmcqQLtY9w http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTd3P2vaGts
WOW Sir you share some breath taking music have no words... ..... Its true that music is the language of the heart and soul.

(Its nostalgia hearing Spanish eyes after long time and the video is so well done. Revisiting [highlight=transparent; color:rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:arial,sans-serif; line-height:1.2em]The Moon Represents My Heart - Teresa Teng)[/highlight]


Regards
ksl

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  • #44,932
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:44pm Feb 9, 2014 10:44pm
Quoting drzakir123
{quote} fti hope ur well.last 2=3 months I was on the wrong side of market ,I had short positions in gbp/jpy from 160.20 and price move about 1400 pips against me[174.80],to start with my base was really small but after a point I have to leverage out my position and suddenly I found my self fighting on death ground.i have to pulled out all my reserves to manage the position still the paper loss was about 45% of my account.if I had hold the position till now I might have come out with reasonable profit,as price retrace most of the 1400 pips but my...
hey dr,
i know how you feel man.
i get in the same s### all the time.
i am usually profitable, but when i lose concentration / focus or am just a little distracted , i spiral out of control and find my self in a "dark place" according to fti.
then i spend a good few days , sometimes 1-2 weeks, digging myself out of the mess doing position recovery
had i not gotten into the mess, i would be spending time collecting pips instead of doing recovery...
i have found that with a large capital size, even with modest 10 times leverage, further scaled down in position size by moving the decimal point back by one , effectively trading on 1:1, it can easily escalate up to 10% of capital in a blink of an eye.
any comments and advise from anyone would be helpful.
regards.
  • #44,933
  • Feb 9, 2014 10:51pm Feb 9, 2014 10:51pm
Guys, I am currently writing notes on market structure about the Redistribution phase, please feel free to comment

If after an upmove and a congestion area / trading range the market is in a down trend or a downtrend without a selling climax, then this could mean re-distribution is in progress and it may be advisable to look out for sign of distribution.

During the redistribution phase you will often hear ‘good news’ at the tops to draw in buyers and help the redistribution. Price may pullback to fib levels of upto 50% before supply comes in on high volume and price continues downwards.

The redistribution trading range is characterised by lower volume bottoms and higher volume tops which represents more selling than buying or supply overcoming demand.

It can also be confirmed by seeing upbars with large upper wicks on high volume that do not make new highs as price develops into a trading range of distribution. No Demands and Upthrusts are frequently seen.
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #44,934
  • Feb 10, 2014 2:34am Feb 10, 2014 2:34am
Quoting Connected
Guys, I am currently writing notes on market structure about the Redistribution phase, please feel free to comment If after an upmove and a congestion area / trading range the market is in a down trend or a downtrend without a selling climax, then this could mean re-distribution is in progress and it may be advisable to look out for sign of distribution. During the redistribution phase you will often hear ‘good news’ at the tops to draw in buyers and help the redistribution. Price may pullback to fib levels of upto 50% before supply comes in on...
Hi Connected, thanks for your post. It seems like what you have mentioned is pertaining to some sort of supply/demand or volume analysis technique. From my read of this thread until around pg500, this has not been discussed. This is because, the technique of this thread is: (1) Mindset (2) Money Management (3) Art of War. Also, to reiterate the point on volume, it is not used at all. Thus, you may want to reconsider the discussion from another perspective.

And of most importance is the dance, the "now" of the market.
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  • #44,935
  • Feb 10, 2014 4:53am Feb 10, 2014 4:53am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} Hi Connected, thanks for your post. It seems like what you have mentioned is pertaining to some sort of supply/demand or volume analysis technique. From my read of this thread until around pg500, this has not been discussed. This is because, the technique of this thread is: (1) Mindset (2) Money Management (3) Art of War. Also, to reiterate the point on volume, it is not used at all. Thus, you may want to reconsider the discussion from another perspective. And of most importance is the dance, the "now" of the market.
Thanks for your positive response Jacque, yes this analysis I posted is based on volume and market phases, I was kinda throwing it out there to see if you guys looked at any of this data, much appreciated! Reading on
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  • #44,936
  • Feb 10, 2014 5:06am Feb 10, 2014 5:06am
Quoting Connected
{quote} Thanks for your positive response Jacque, yes this analysis I posted is based on volume and market phases, I was kinda throwing it out there to see if you guys looked at any of this data, much appreciated! Reading on

Hi Connected

everyone seems to find their own way in the end, may be worth looking at some of the journals of people on this thread to see what i mean if you want to see how some of us look at the data, i find the main thing is to understand how and why the market moves through its structure and the way that structure is portrayed within the charts, but others here appear to do it differently, i am not right or wrong and nor are they, its just how we all interpret things differently and put it to use within our personal capabilities.

regards

Phil.
-be careful about what you allow to be put in your mind-
  • #44,937
  • Edited 5:34am Feb 10, 2014 5:15am | Edited 5:34am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} i see.. sometime back, I have briefly read of an experiment where the monk stayed out in the water or cold (something like that) and he was able to generate heat and maintain his body warm.. this is same as you mentioned of the himilayan monks. very interesting art.. it's on my to be explored list. Appreciate your sharing this much and thanks hitting the sack.. gd nite all
i think you may mistaken the use of the art.

When i trained with sifu, i was only a child.
Because sifu was also Dad's friend. He taught me some useful stuff.
made me train in quiet, at a cemetery in front of his arts school inprivate.(with the mosquitoes)

His training was about energy, self defense and health.
You see, the movements that was taught is not the conventional forward thrust type that many would be used to seeing.
the movements mostly do no stance out of body center of gravity. mostly is up down and round and round stuff.
There no fist sets only 1 dragon fist set which is a foochow technique , and not taught in his school.

If you can understand is mostly about balance and diantian preservation.
In punch out styles, the diantian energy is exerted outwards, thus depletes.
In chi, the energy is preserved in body.
So if no force is coming at you, there not much respondes, because there nothing to redirect.
So is not have attack capacities like what i learned in the forces.
Only its very powerful self preservation and defence training.
But the best from the training was the ability cycle energy.
This very good for body health.
But i bad example, my diantian weak and my balance is

Those monks you saw able generate heat, those not easy task.
I know because i saw a friend who practised that, so i know a little about it, is not easy.
My friend brought master from hills teach him, because of a disease he was trying overcome.
So i seen how its done. But ultimately he lost battle to ailment.
But was better than eating baskets of drugs to stay alive.

What i trying to say is that all these practises is for health purposes.
No one studys it, unless one needs to. Absolute dedication is required.
Is not just an art is a lifestyle.
And when one needs the masters , they are around.

regards

so although is OT i bring these up from time to time , when i think may help a trader with his health.
and only for that.
Is not things that anyone can master, without living the lifestyle.
But only may be useful to those who may need it stay healthy.
but without complete dedication and deligence is not a cure , just a relief.
  • #44,938
  • Feb 10, 2014 5:26am Feb 10, 2014 5:26am
Quoting phil13
{quote} Hi Connected everyone seems to find their own way in the end, may be worth looking at some of the journals of people on this thread to see what i mean if you want to see how some of us look at the data, i find the main thing is to understand how and why the market moves through its structure and the way that structure is portrayed within the charts, but others here appear to do it differently, i am not right or wrong and nor are they, its just how we all interpret things differently and put it to use within our personal capabilities. regards...
Hi Phil thank you I appreciate your comments, I will definitely will check through more journals, I have taken some great notes from this thread as I go through. I've also just had a quick look through your charts, very good thanks for sharing. I utilise another form of market structure and it is very interesting for me to be seeing the market from other perspectives!

A cosmos of different structures all working together.
Tracking the Specialists.
  • #44,939
  • Feb 10, 2014 6:17am Feb 10, 2014 6:17am
Quoting fti
{quote} i think you may mistaken the use of the art. When i trained with sifu, i was only a child. Because sifu was also Dad's friend. He taught me some useful stuff. made me train in quiet, at a cemetery in front of his arts school inprivate.(with the mosquitoes) His training was about energy, self defense and health. You see, the movements that was taught is not the conventional forward thrust type that many would be used to seeing. the movements mostly do no stance out of body center of gravity. mostly is up down and round and round...
Hi fti, thanks for the guidance. Will bear that in mind. For now, I have incorporated the spinal adjustment technique and the Sifu Hwang's loosening exercise into daily routine. Regardless, will take the opportunity during the exercise to relax
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  • #44,940
  • Edited 8:16am Feb 10, 2014 6:38am | Edited 8:16am
Quoting Jacque
{quote} Hi fti, thanks for the guidance. Will bear that in mind. For now, I have incorporated the spinal adjustment technique and the Sifu Hwang's loosening exercise into daily routine. Regardless, will take the opportunity during the exercise to relax
good turtleing.
actually i don't feel need do the spine thingy daily, may be weekly is ok, unless you have spine aliment.
Sifu hwang warm up chi, you try do daily, tell me if you feel the benefits.
oh 1 thing, when roll out breath out, when roll in breath in. and always thru nose.

regards

nice , indo tribute.

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