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  • #21
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:35pm Jan 30, 2014 5:35pm
Quoting smittens4212
Hi TEB63, I believe the question of whether we're in a trending or ranging market (read: volatility analysis) is absolutely vital to be very successful trading. That doesn't mean you can't be successful if you don't care about what environment we're in, but I am confident you can't be as successful without that knowledge. We know that markets move from stability (lower volatilities, ranging market) to breakouts and trends (higher volatilities, trending market) and back. These patterns will make or break whether you can max out your potential profits...
im not sure you understood my points but good luck anyway.
tradewith60
  • #22
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:36pm Jan 30, 2014 5:36pm
Quoting Pipocrates
{quote} If u wait for a single candle confirmation, that is a breakout. Price moving is a breakout of its previous level. It's a continuous breakout.
one in eight break outs work in trading in general
in the forex it is about one in seven.
break out trading is a very hard way trade

70% to 80% are losers
  • #23
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:40pm Jan 30, 2014 5:40pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} one in eight break outs work in trading in general in the forex it is about one in seven. break out trading is a very hard way trade 70% to 80% are losers
this is totally useless information, how big were the stops on the breakouts? what was the target on them?.... you might as well just say every entry is 50/50, up or down. If your figures were only close to being right all you would need do is go against every breakout????
tradewith60
  • #24
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:42pm Jan 30, 2014 5:42pm
Quoting TEB63
{quote} one in eight break outs work in trading in general in the forex it is about one in seven. break out trading is a very hard way trade 70% to 80% are losers
Nonsense, it's dependent on so many things, if I scalp a single pip on every breakout I could have a 99% win rate, let's just agree to disagree.
  • #25
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:44pm Jan 30, 2014 5:44pm
these discussions are just frustrating and pointless, unless TEB can tell us the point?
tradewith60
  • #26
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:48pm Jan 30, 2014 5:48pm
Quoting 60minuteman
these discussions are just frustrating and pointless, unless TEB can tell us the point?

Great point thank you!!

The point of the thread is to know what kind of market you are in-
and how do you determent which it is
  • #27
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:50pm Jan 30, 2014 5:50pm
Quoting Pipocrates
{quote} Nonsense, it's dependent on so many things, if I scalp a single pip on every breakout I could have a 99% win rate, let's just agree to disagree.

LOL -
My stats are on 1 to 1 RRR (which by the way I would never trade)
if you go in to higher RRR its worse

trading one pip is silly
  • #28
  • Jan 30, 2014 5:56pm Jan 30, 2014 5:56pm
Ok lets go back to the first post - everyone

How do you determent if you are in a trend or a range
  • #29
  • Jan 30, 2014 6:35pm Jan 30, 2014 6:35pm
find a trend and trade
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  • #30
  • Jan 30, 2014 10:35pm Jan 30, 2014 10:35pm
Really interesting...I am reading your thread almost an hour with comments and ideas from other members here...Really helpful for me about this two important things in Forex -"Trending vs Range Bound Markets "

Thanks a lot and will wait your new posts.
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  • #31
  • Jan 31, 2014 4:50pm Jan 31, 2014 4:50pm
The market is always ranging and trending at the same time, it just depends on your perception at the time (for example: At the same moment in time, a long term trader sees a trend on the daily chart, but a scalper sees a slow/ranging market on the 1min chart).

That being said, the best defense to stay out of a ranging market (in your perception framework of the market) is through experience and past observations of the market. For example (day trading):

 

  1. When there is a banking holiday that will affect the instrument you want to trade
  2. After a massive move the previous session
  3. Before big news announcements .....etc.

  • #32
  • Last Post: Feb 1, 2014 2:24pm Feb 1, 2014 2:24pm
pre- market trends
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