NV Trader is not credible (Ex-Institutional Trader)

Pony-up cristi! Only $200. What have you got to lose!

"The best things in life are free
but you can give them to the birds and bees.

I want money THAT'S WHAT I WANT
that's what I want THAT'S WHAT I WANT

Your lovin' give me a thrill
but your lovin' don't pay my bill.
Now gimme money THAT'S WHAT I WANT
that's what I want THAT'S WHAT I WANT

(Instrumental)

Money don't get everything it's true.
What it don't get I can't use.
I want money THAT'S WHAT I WANT"

let winston and the other fools fall for his crap ,he has sent me his crap marketing and trying to sound like a pro with a normal pamm account ,ive spoken to him on skype and he told me he is trading millions lol and 100,s of millions of his families money,but he is being kind and helping all you guys on ff,who cannot trade so he is shopping in the gutter here ,even though he has been offered to manage over a 100,s of millions what a great guy with a hidden myfxbook with 200usd in it
fair play to him even though he is a bullshitting conman regarding his past,its a real account be it only 200usd .
guy you might as well just copy someone like darkstar who seems like a good guy, upfront and doing 10x better than nv wanker,stay with your own broker and small fees.
nv 100,s of million what a clown its all on skype and we have sent 3 different emails to his new site so will update you later ,watch out for all u poor guys with less than 50k to put in dukas he is trying to get you to send your money to his other fund ,because he knows you will all fall for it,oh and his little doggy is ok and his grandma who he visits everyday and gives her flowers such a nice boy

yes its funny isnt it

this is getting a bit too far, and I have noticed people are more concern about stopping others rather then growing by them self.

I get emails from multinationals to sell their products, so what is wrong with NV if he is marketing him self?

if you dont like just delete and spam him, nothing to create a hype over it.

he is commercial member and just like all commercial members we all have our own interests.

no one is forcing some thing over internet, it is all individual choice to get involve with some thing which they like.

FF should delete this thread and keep such kind of discussions in dust bins.

who dont want money?

this is funny though....

Yeah, maybe FF should delete this(in fact this is what I expect they will do) but before this, I hope many people here would like to see a real statistics and what are the real money made in this industry.
This way they can keep away from all the worthless things most are trying to sell here on FF.
If one think that 50 % / year (that is 6% return every month and compounding ) is an easy job and available for the independent traders he will think twice seeing the document attached provided www.barclayhedge.com
50% growth in 6 month does not mean your PAMM account can't be blown after 12 month

this statistics are of no use, those Barclay's guys have billions in their account so even making 1% on monthly basis is enough for them, retail traders (penny traders) like us, need more % to survive, and this is were selling trading skills comes in pictures.

You can trade with Barclay. Their CTAs are trading peoples money not government money. you can choose which one from their list will trade your account.
They have billions because of such PAMM accounts

And because I see commercial members interested in this thread I would like to make known a great FREE professional trading video course made available by an 13 years of experience trader.
The course is structured in 3 sections and 14 weeks curriculum.
His name is Adam Grimes and his trading background is this:

1. trader on SMB Capital’s Manhattan prop desk,
2. VP of Quantitative System Development at Level Partners, LLC
3. Senior Analyst and Trader at MBF Asset Management
4. Director of Tactical Investments for Waverly Advisors, LLC

Adam holds an MBA from the Fisher College of Business at The Ohio State University with an emphasis in Trading and Market Microstructure.
Use Google and you'll find the site.

Right after my spam email from 'NV Trader'. I did some research...

His old blog from 2010 (sounds like a Newbie):-
http://web.archive.org/web/201008210....uk/?page_id=2

He was also friends with known con man Darryl Bywater:-
http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...13#post6433413
http://www.forexpeacearmy.com/forex-...r-con-man.html

Darryl Bywater is somehow linked to 'Bubble' aka 'nicholas', 'nik123':-
http://www.forex-tsd.com/evaluate-co...tml#post624334

And you must be a super profitable trader to know what a newbie is.

I checked out those links but find nothing that associates them to NV. Maybe you should provide some additional substantiation of your slanderous claims.

As I mentioned in others posts, that guy is an "artist".

From his old blog:-

Same email address, same name.

Clearly, there must be a misunderstanding. According to NV's website, he was "finetuning quantitative models" in 2010, and not punting the fx markets with candle-patterns and S/R lines or reccommending Darryls trading room website.

Winston you should pull your head out of your arse and stop falling in love with these conmen.I think the job is done here good old NV seems to have done a runner.....until the next one.

Jealousy is a disease. Get well soon guys.

Given I have questioned the very heart of how forums such as this are run, which allow any person from the street to offer "monthly subscription" services without any independently audited results and also raised questions about some of those that have attacked me on my original thread, this latest verbose doesn't surprise me in the slightest. Trading is full of ego, and having to admit that you are not successful shatters that ego. Threads like this are an easy way to express that frustration as all you need is a username and you share the same level of hierarchy as anyone else. So I can't say I am surprised by the childish behaviour and I am sure it will get worse as my account history grows, which rest assured it will. There are plenty of vendors here who as I write continue to sell BS without any verification and some that have provided verification but are blowing up as I type. Instead the focus seems to be on someone with a low draw down profitable account. Hilarious.

zola, I do apologise if in error I sent you a very short one-off polite email directing you to my site, which by the way has a wealth of useful information all for free. No subscription services or courses. You simply had to reply expressing your desire not to be contacted, which you still can do, and I will not trouble you again. In any case please accept my apology, it was an error on my part.

Unlike everyone on this thread and the majority of this site I would rather let my trading do the talking hence the myfxbook link, I cannot really be any more transparent than that. Not only that but I built the majority of it up in front of everyone from 0% after all. However I felt it necessary to put forward a comment on what zola posted because there really is not anything to hide.

Firstly, as I have stated clearly on my site as shrike points out I did indeed take a sabbatical for almost 3 years to develop my quantitative models. Building an edge does not happen overnight it takes many many years of prolonged and laborious effort testing, hitting brick walls and more testing. That's a long time to just sit 18 hours a day 7 days a week plugging numbers into a database for the purposes of data mining and fine tuning and then starting all over again when you change any parameters or realise you've just spent months going nowhere. Most here wouldn't know and will never know sadly. They prefer to take the easy route. I have discussed this process in detail on my thread it was probably one of the most tedious mind numbing periods of my life. There were times I felt like I was going down a very long road to nowhere. It takes a specific type of person to carry on in those circumstances when all your friends are out getting on with their life, family and careers and you are stuck in a room churning numbers. Days turn into weeks, weeks turn into years.

As you have pointed out I did participate in some 3rd party offerings in that period because as you can imagine I had a lot of time on my hands in those 2-3 years. I was still fairly new to the retail scene at that stage as I had been so insulated from it at the bank. The offering you point out is not the only one I explored by the way, I dipped my toe in to several 3rd party offerings actually. I have never denied that anywhere, nor has anyone ever asked. I wanted to get a proper extensive feel for Elliott wave theory and all similar variations so I explored what was out there as I was working on incorporating it in to my quantitative work as readers of my thread will know. It was never a matter of 'punting' FYI I was trying to locate an edge, learn more about how Elliott Wave and other theories based on it worked not only in an automated sense but in the more traditional sense, i.e with S/R and the like involved. How else do you think I came to the conclusion these traditional methods lacked an edge without exposure to them. As you will also recall from my thread I was starting to incorporate my own forms of Elliott wave theory so I was naturally drawn to anything that remotely mimicked it. Any good analyst would. If you look closely at the blog you posted it is based on alternative ways of looking at Elliott Wave theory, i.e. fractal methods. In the end it was pretty useless but it gave me some good ideas of how to develop my own models further down the line.

Everything that was offered in those 3rd party offerings I ran through thorough number crunching so in effect it helped me come to the conclusions I drew in my thread, that traditional methods offered on the internet medium through forums such as this one and third party vendors are complete rubbish. However without trying what was on offer myself I am not sure how anyone is expected to draw the conclusions. Did I get carried away? Probably, but that's how you learn and develop as a professional. We have all been there. I was developing my quantitative methods concurrently but testing other traditional methods was a nice way to break the terrible monotony and see if there was any merit in all the hype. Yes I had high hopes for some of them no denying, like anyone else, but through 1000s of hours of data mining (I have hundreds of databases still stored on my PC) I realised that what I had been schooled in, a pure statistical approach was the only viable route worth pursuing. That is why the blog you pointed out is so short in nature as after running some statistics I quickly realised my initial enthusiasm was without merit.

The entire experience made me realise that I wanted to avoid going down the services route. I have had 100s of requests to start monthly services through people on this forum in the last few weeks but I have openly declined because it does not fit with what I am trying to build.

The bottom line is this entire thread is a futile exercise. Any clients I take on are welcome to carry out any due diligence they wish, in fact as you see on my site I actively encourage it. I provide them all with verified documentation pertaining to my several years trading floor employment covering options, personal identification and track record. I am also happy to meet any time, not hide behind a keyboard like the cowards here. Regarding the current MyFXBook anyone is welcome to wait as long as they like for the verified returns to build up, 5 years if you wish what do I care, I actively encourage it I am in no rush. I will still be around for many years when almost all the naysayers on this thread (without any proof they can trade I might add) pale into insignificance.

This entire thread is just random blubber, a comedy show really, however if someone comes along and provides anything of substance as zola did then I am happy to respond because I have nothing to hide. If it's just random waffle then please don't expect a response. Stick to the mother and baby forums please.

Ironically I am sending out this month's newsletter this weekend vilifying a lot of the unqualified vendors out there so to those that wish to sign up you still can. Thank you to the many hundreds that have signed up and the many more than have had a good laugh with me about this thread it makes me think giving all the free advice is worthwhile. I would challenge any of the other vendors here to come forward with a comprehensive response on their particular threads that they are not credible but of course that will never happen.

I must dash I have some significant in the money positions short the majors which should pop up on MyFXBook soon, taking the equity curve to new highs! Proofs in the pudding guys, words are cheap. Anyway looks like my decision to minimise my time in this rat hole has been justified.

Have a nice weekend.

NV

My head is very much in open air. That is why I can clearly see all of you idiots with your heads up each other's .....

So far not one of you mud throwers has produced a shred of credible evidence that NV is anything other than what he says he is. I challenge any of you to come up with something that does any of the following:
1. NV is a fake such as he is falsifying his credentials.
2. NV has or is taking clients money inappropriately or illegally.
3. His results as posted on "myfxbook" or on his website are false.
4. Produce any credible and verifiable evidence that NV is anything other than what he says he is: a credentialed trader with a verifiable track record selling his trading skills to willing investors seeking to invest risk capital in high speculation.

Blah,blah,blah,blah,blah.......I could just ban you from my thread but my perverse sense of humour won't allow it.I have to say that you are quite articulate NV but so verbose.Have you and" Winston" been on a date yet?

You have nothing edge except a sharp tongue. Your sense of humor is the least perverse thing about you edge.