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  • Jan 23, 2014 5:31pm Jan 23, 2014 5:31pm
Alien has some catching up to do, I see...................

Alien made some nice swing trades today on selling EJ, AU, UC and buying the EU.............
The More You Learn, The More You Earn.....
  • #2,422
  • Jan 23, 2014 5:34pm Jan 23, 2014 5:34pm
Quoting forexalien
{quote} welcome hnk, Yes that is our beloved cenky's web site it looks like, he is always promoting something........here , there, everywhere............
500 dollars and you get an indi-set that just tells you "if A and B and C, then BUY". You have no idea how it works and why it works.
Zero dollars and you get virtually the same indi-set WITH an explanation on how to use indicators to read the market.. from an ALIEN!

Granted, you have to read 121 pages of posts (on my third read-through currently, compiling all the useful tidbits i can find) and that's a lot of work.. At the end of the day though, I will know WHY i took a trade decision, instead of being nervous about the quality of something i don't understand. Right or wrong, i don't care. At least i had a real reason to do what i did.

just my two pips
The game taught me the game. And it didn't spare me the rod while teaching.
  • #2,423
  • Jan 23, 2014 6:22pm Jan 23, 2014 6:22pm
Quoting forexalien
Alien has some catching up to do, I see................... Alien made some nice swing trades today on selling EJ, AU, UC and buying the EU.............
Alien, was this where you took your entries on the EJ and the UC? UC had a nice black stoch divergence then crossed back down over the green...

Can I ask how you managed the exits on your trades and which TF ADX (42 or 89 or 144?) did you use to do this?

Cheers
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  • #2,424
  • Jan 23, 2014 6:36pm Jan 23, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting occamsrazors
{quote} Alien, was this where you took your entries on the EJ and the UC? UC had a nice black stoch divergence then crossed back down over the green... Can I ask how you managed the exits on your trades and which TF ADX (42 or 89 or 144?) did you use to do this? Cheers {image} {image}
on the UC I was in 1.1160 for a short, out 1.1103 and was swing trading a different system.

The EJ I made a mistake when I said short., the day before was this trade , long at 141.69 and out 142.24 sorry for the dyslexia ............
The More You Learn, The More You Earn.....
  • #2,425
  • Jan 23, 2014 6:44pm Jan 23, 2014 6:44pm
Quoting peterwest
I must say I really find this system amusing, but after reading the thread twice, I still can't implement it in my own trading. There is too much subjectivity, so I'm asking if someone can clear thing up a bit. Do we look for grade A (adx expanding after bbs, rsioma and ds above 50 heading up or above 80 for long and opposite for short, all three stochs agreeing with rsioma and green stoch pointing the correct direction) on higher and lower time frames? Would the finalized entry trigger be rsioma or green stoch crossing 50 line? I guess what I'm...
Studying what you read is the best way to get it to sink in, practice on a demo account, It takes some time to get your eyes trained to look for the few clues you need, after that, it becomes like driving a car across town...............

Alien's system's may not be right for everyone, some picked it up in a heart beat and others take quality time for it to sink in , everyone is on a different level of seat time .............
The More You Learn, The More You Earn.....
  • #2,426
  • Jan 23, 2014 6:47pm Jan 23, 2014 6:47pm
Quoting yaysayer
{quote} You are looking at it the wrong way i believe. This is not an "if A then B" system. all any indicator does is give us another way to read the story of the market. what this 'visual' system does is combine a bunch of indicators that tell us what the market is doing, with a lot of the random noise filtered out. Not only do we have the 'book' with the main story (price), we have a bunch of friends around, all willing to help us out if we lose the storyline, Our happy bunch of friends so far are ADX, Stochs, RSIOMA, and divergence spotting....
This is a Great Picture Story !

Alien Loves to show and tell in Picture Stories.............
The More You Learn, The More You Earn.....
  • #2,427
  • Jan 23, 2014 6:51pm Jan 23, 2014 6:51pm
Quoting guymontag
{quote} Thanks for all your posts yaysayer. As a relatively inexperienced trader I've found it difficult to use Alien's tools and teachings effectively. Each sitting has improved my understanding and I'm glad of demo also. I find the fluid nature difficult as previously i've just been reading price action, now I have to read stoch's, ADX, RSIOMA and correlate them on time frames higher and lower.
Trading is an art, once you wrap your mind around Alien's tools, it should become easier.

Make sure the ADX is expanding on all 5, this will keep you out of trouble most times, then add the other indi's to confirm...........
The More You Learn, The More You Earn.....
  • #2,428
  • Jan 23, 2014 7:01pm Jan 23, 2014 7:01pm
Quoting forexalien
{quote} on the UC I was in 1.1160 for a short, out 1.1103 and was swing trading a different system. The EJ I made a mistake when I said short., the day before was this trade , long at 141.69 and out 142.24 sorry for the dyslexia ............
Ok I understand the UC

No problem with the dyslexia Alien, I'm forever having those problems on my posts .

But the EJ, when you say the day before, do you mean entering in the Tokyo session (the day before for you?) which had a 46 pip pull back or entry in London session (current day) and then which ran up with the EUR news (seemed it was leaked as it started it's move not long before it was announced)? [Edit Blue vertical line in London Open entry should be on the candle before, the 9:00 o'clock candle as it hit the 141.69 first]
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  • #2,429
  • Jan 23, 2014 7:32pm Jan 23, 2014 7:32pm
Quoting forexalien
Alien has some catching up to do, I see................... Alien made some nice swing trades today on selling EJ, AU, UC and buying the EU.............
Hi Alien,
as we discuss it with yaysayer few posts ago, based on your extraterrestrial method ADX [plus BBs] contraction is #1 clue before price "explosion".
I found this example where 3x stoch don't really give us any serious clue about direction [or I still can't see it, please correct me if I'm wrong]
Only ADX far below 30 showed us that we can expect price "explosion" very soon.
RSIoma as well was somewhere around 50 in left example and 30 in right, more or less FLAT in both examples. Only DS "ruber band" indicated possible direction: short in first example and long in second.

Am I right that ADX [plus BBs] contraction is KING to catch early price movement? Would you review and comment that example, please. As you mention it before you had trade "and buying the EU......" today. Can't wait your comment.
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  • #2,430
  • Jan 23, 2014 8:01pm Jan 23, 2014 8:01pm
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Quoting Richcom
{quote} Hi Alien, as we discuss it with yaysayer few posts ago, based on your extraterrestrial method ADX [plus BBs] contraction is #1 clue before price "explosion". I found this example where 3x stoch don't really give us any serious clue about direction [or I still can't see it, please correct me if I'm wrong] Only ADX far below 30 showed us that we can expect price "explosion" very soon. RSIoma as well was somewhere around 50 in left example and 30 in right, more or less FLAT in both examples. Only DS "ruber band" indicated possible direction:...
Do you try to look in lower TF to catch early price movement ? like alien said "Lower TF drive Higher TF"
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  • #2,431
  • Jan 23, 2014 8:19pm Jan 23, 2014 8:19pm
Quoting yaysayer
{quote}... Thanks for the inspiration Richcom...
;] You are very welcome! In the same way many people here inspired me. Thank you ALL!

Inspiration .... ;D
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  • #2,432
  • Edited 9:20pm Jan 23, 2014 8:39pm | Edited 9:20pm
Quoting Richcom
{quote} Hi Alien, as we discuss it with yaysayer few posts ago, based on your extraterrestrial method ADX [plus BBs] contraction is #1 clue before price "explosion". I found this example where 3x stoch don't really give us any serious clue about direction [or I still can't see it, please correct me if I'm wrong] Only ADX far below 30 showed us that we can expect price "explosion" very soon. RSIoma as well was somewhere around 50 in left example and 30 in right, more or less FLAT in both examples. Only DS "ruber band" indicated possible direction:...
I must admit I like the BBSqueezes when combined a DS but I don't see how to get in this move on the EU, I was watching it, at the time. The move was occurred right on the German Flash Manufacturing News. I find its a good idea to go back to what all the TFs looked like at the time of the move. This is what the chart looked like the at the moment of the news (M1 shows a few candles after the news and M5 one candle after the news).

I don't see any way to get in this trade until after it had gone a long way after the news.

D1, H4 and H1 RSIOMAs and DS all seem in conflict/mixed, H4 DS flattening out to maybe roll short, all RSIOMAs short although D1 turned up [Edit:sorry forgot to rollback D1, the DS cross was incomplete and RSIOMA hadn't turned up, still had a DS gap]
All TF ADXs were contracting, H1 was particularly tight
BBSqueezes across H4 and below, so a big move could be expected but which way...not sure yet...
M15 Green under 50 and RSIOMA flat with DS choppy pointing down
M5 The Green Stoch was flat above 50 and started to point up the candle after the news as did the RSIOMA which was just above 50. Also a black stoch cross but that one doesn't look very pretty to me, it had been very choppy before that. And M5 ADX was contracting.
M1 actually expanded short before the news.....

Not that I would enter before the news but I'm not sure I see any indication of which way PA might go other than the M5 RSIOMA and Green stoch being just above 50 (but RSIOMA was flat, it pointed up after afterwards). Could have entered when M5 RISOMA hit 80 level but that was one M5 candle after the news....so don't know about that entry, I like to let the news settle a little, but it was the trigger this time...

If anyone sees anything else I would love to hear
[Edit: I forgot to roll back the D1 chart...the DS had not crossed yet at that time, there was still a gap..at the time I actually had the EU marked down to look for shorts still based on H4 DS trying to roll over and incomplete D1 DS cross...not quite right lol)
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  • #2,433
  • Jan 23, 2014 9:01pm Jan 23, 2014 9:01pm
Quoting occamsrazors
{quote} I must admit I like the BBSqueezes when combined a DS but I don't see how to get in this move on the EU, I was watching it, at the time. The move was occurred right on the German Flash Manufacturing News. I find its a good idea to go back to what all the TFs looked like at the time of the move. This is what the chart looked like the at the moment of the news (M1 shows a few candles after the news and M5 one candle after the news). I don't see any way to get in this trade until after it had gone a long way after the news. D1, H4 and H1 RSIOMAs...

Speaking as captain hindsight, and since i tend to get into positions too soon, there is a possible entry on M5 where RSIOMA and green stoch both cross 50 upwards, combined with some adx expansion (7, 21, 42 as far as i can make out). there is also a tiny LLprice-HLrsioma divergence taking place right after that, giving an entry about 3 M5 candles before the move.

That said, i would not have dared take this trade with virtually all other TF's so confused.
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  • #2,434
  • Jan 23, 2014 9:16pm Jan 23, 2014 9:16pm
Quoting yaysayer
{quote} Speaking as captain hindsight, and since i tend to get into positions too soon, there is a possible entry on M5 where RSIOMA and green stoch both cross 50 upwards, combined with some adx expansion (7, 21, 42 as far as i can make out). there is also a tiny LLprice-HLrsioma divergence taking place right after that, giving an entry about 3 M5 candles before the move. That said, i would not have dared take this trade with virtually all other TF's so confused.
Agreed yaysayer, I see what you saying (I've never looked for RSIOMA divergences in position that tight before - good eyes!) and you are right, there was an earlier M5 expansion (the RSIOMA was very flat then). There was also news not long after that expansion that moved it back down for your HL (2 sets of news half hour apart). Good stuff, thanks for your input
  • #2,435
  • Jan 23, 2014 9:30pm Jan 23, 2014 9:30pm
Quoting Nihilist
{quote} Test this one. {file}
There's an error in the drawing sub-window definition (unknown subwindow number -1 for ObjectCreate function).

Log file full as it print this error for each object on each tick !

It would be great if you could look at this. It should be in the ObjectCreate() function ... window parameter
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  • #2,436
  • Jan 23, 2014 9:35pm Jan 23, 2014 9:35pm
Alien I am new to this trend , but I have been following for the last couple of days and finally reach the current post. This system you have is Awesome!!! I mean you just need to practice and trust me all you can see is rewards. Thank you for being here we need Masters like you to help the newbie and the struggling ones like me! Good stuff!
  • #2,437
  • Jan 23, 2014 11:42pm Jan 23, 2014 11:42pm
Mr. ForexAlien!

I haven't posted for a few weeks. I been studying and practicing and I want to say THANK YOU!

Your system works perfectly for me! My last 30 trades, I only lost 4! That's about a 85% success rate! And its on my micro LIVE account.

I am shocked! I don't know if its luck or skill, lol.

Thank you so much Mr. ForexAlien!

Please view my trade explorer for proof if anyone doubts Mr. ForexAlien's system. You can see that it was down hill at first but then with better understanding/patience/practice with your system, things began to simply "click on" for me!
I love forex. One day it will love me back.
  • #2,438
  • Jan 23, 2014 11:47pm Jan 23, 2014 11:47pm
Quoting Singha83
Mr. ForexAlien! I haven't posted for a few weeks. I been studying and practicing and I want to say THANK YOU! Your system works perfectly for me! My last 30 trades, I only lost 4! That's about a 85% success rate! And its on my micro LIVE account. I am shocked! I don't know if its luck or skill, lol. Thank you so much Mr. ForexAlien! Please view my trade explorer for proof if anyone doubts Mr. ForexAlien's system. You can see that it was down hill at first but then with better understanding/patience/practice with your system, things began to simply...
Congrats
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  • #2,439
  • Jan 23, 2014 11:47pm Jan 23, 2014 11:47pm
Quoting forexalien
welcome hnk, Yes that is our beloved cenky's web site it looks like, he is always promoting something........here , there, everywhere............

cenky's it is... He tried to sell me "his version" of this very same (maybe slightly different as he said) for 30% discount on $500 price
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  • #2,440
  • Jan 24, 2014 12:30am Jan 24, 2014 12:30am
Quoting occamsrazors
{quote} Ok I understand the UC No problem with the dyslexia Alien, I'm forever having those problems on my posts . But the EJ, when you say the day before, do you mean entering in the Tokyo session (the day before for you?) which had a 46 pip pull back or entry in London session (current day) and then which ran up with the EUR news (seemed it was leaked as it started it's move not long before it was announced)? [Edit Blue vertical line in London Open entry should be on the candle before, the 9:00 o'clock candle as it hit the 141.69 first] {image}...

need help if some body got the drake delay stochastic file........my not like that so please any body help me..............
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