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  • #141
  • Jan 13, 2014 7:48pm Jan 13, 2014 7:48pm
They will start of being independent from fxcm next month, I was told. With lower commissions and more lp's, lower spreads etc. Eurusd is supposed to be .2/.3 pip, commission $30 per million.
  • #142
  • Jan 13, 2014 7:54pm Jan 13, 2014 7:54pm
Stil a third more expensive than IB. Whats the point..
  • #143
  • Jan 13, 2014 8:04pm Jan 13, 2014 8:04pm
Quoting pbb
They will start of being independent from fxcm next month, I was told. With lower commissions and more lp's, lower spreads etc. Eurusd is supposed to be .2/.3 pip, commission $30 per million.
dont think they have the money to become a full fledge broker, mabe they hooking up with another broker as IB gain
  • #144
  • Jan 14, 2014 9:21am Jan 14, 2014 9:21am
Still will never be my favorite brokerage, but it does look like they're setting up to be a full fledged brokerage outside the US:

https://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firm...0__?sid=309581

Looks like they're teaming up with a "Mr Ruscak Vladimir", same guy behind "FX Hill"
  • #145
  • Jan 14, 2014 11:12am Jan 14, 2014 11:12am
Quoting shrike
Stil a third more expensive than IB. Whats the point..
I'm with IB, but I think atc is respectable too and could be a good alternative or broker on the side. Don't know about fx hill.
  • #146
  • Jan 14, 2014 3:21pm Jan 14, 2014 3:21pm
Quoting Forex2k10
Still will never be my favorite brokerage, but it does look like they're setting up to be a full fledged brokerage outside the US: https://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firm...0__?sid=309581 Looks like they're teaming up with a "Mr Ruscak Vladimir", same guy behind "FX Hill"
so they will probly still use fxcm for u.s. clients
  • #147
  • Jan 15, 2014 9:33am Jan 15, 2014 9:33am
Quoting PoundTrader
{quote} so they will probly still use fxcm for u.s. clients
I would agree. Can't see ATC wanting to put up the $20m in net capital they would need to to get setup in the states as an FCM/FDM. Not to mention, since they have that BCC and fine from the NFA for taking the other side of their clients' trades I can't see the NFA making it any easier for them to get started.
  • #148
  • Edited 10:52pm May 12, 2015 9:29pm | Edited 10:52pm
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmP....do?sid=309581 Dealing in investments as agent but don't have Dealing in investments as principal like other broker. what does this mean?
  • #149
  • May 13, 2015 12:27pm May 13, 2015 12:27pm
Quoting fxjapaneseye
http://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firmP....do?sid=309581 Dealing in investments as agent but don't have Dealing in investments as principal like other broker. what does this mean?
They are trying to distinguish themselves as a pure ECN broker and not a MM.
Make your losses in demo. Earn your profits live.
  • #150
  • May 13, 2015 12:54pm May 13, 2015 12:54pm
Quoting pbb
They will start of being independent from fxcm next month, I was told. With lower commissions and more lp's, lower spreads etc. Eurusd is supposed to be .2/.3 pip, commission $30 per million.
Not the most competitive just OK commission. The problem what I have with them is their exclusive usage of MT4 platform which is really not an ECN-friendly platform and as we have known can allow plug-in's installed that would allow broker to engage in direct market/price manipulations in favour of broker at the expense of the trader.
Make your losses in demo. Earn your profits live.
  • #151
  • May 14, 2015 6:28am May 14, 2015 6:28am
Quoting Forex2k10
Still will never be my favorite brokerage, but it does look like they're setting up to be a full fledged brokerage outside the US: https://www.fsa.gov.uk/register/firm...0__?sid=309581 Looks like they're teaming up with a "Mr Ruscak Vladimir", same guy behind "FX Hill"
you missed something https://uk.linkedin.com/pub/michael-mirarchi/19/301/615
  • #152
  • May 20, 2015 3:15am May 20, 2015 3:15am
Hi....does anyone have details as to the leverage rate ATC had on EURCHF on and before Jan15th 2015? If so, also please can you tell me what it was and when it was implemented.

Many thanks!
  • #153
  • Jun 22, 2015 6:04pm Jun 22, 2015 6:04pm
are forex peace army reviews to be trusted? i've been searching for a US FX broker i can trust for a long time now and ATC has a really good review rating at the forex peace army site, so i'm just curious why there isn't much talk of them on here? i just want my trades executed without any funny business...
  • #154
  • Jun 22, 2015 7:49pm Jun 22, 2015 7:49pm
I have a live ATC account. The are an IB to fxcm, which means orders are routed to fxcm as I understand it. But they have their own MT4 servers and from what I am seen executions are decent, spreads okay (not great), and have good client service. In short, I have not seen any funny business. And because they are an IB, they allow hedging. I think funds are held by fxcm. Curious if anyone knows of ATC will break off from fxcm.
  • #155
  • Jun 23, 2015 3:19am Jun 23, 2015 3:19am
Quoting nonlinear
I have a live ATC account. The are an IB to fxcm, which means orders are routed to fxcm as I understand it. But they have their own MT4 servers and from what I am seen executions are decent, spreads okay (not great), and have good client service. In short, I have not seen any funny business. And because they are an IB, they allow hedging. I think funds are held by fxcm. Curious if anyone knows of ATC will break off from fxcm.
ATC UK is a independent company, only the US is IB to FXCM.
  • #156
  • Jun 23, 2015 3:43pm Jun 23, 2015 3:43pm
Quoting nonlinear
I have a live ATC account. The are an IB to fxcm, which means orders are routed to fxcm as I understand it. But they have their own MT4 servers and from what I am seen executions are decent, spreads okay (not great), and have good client service. In short, I have not seen any funny business. And because they are an IB, they allow hedging. I think funds are held by fxcm. Curious if anyone knows of ATC will break off from fxcm.
Can you guys tell me if there is any positive or negative to using an introducing broker? My whole thing with FXCM is I'm scared to give my money to a company who just got hit by the swiss currency bomb so hard and their stock price is down like 2000% after that whole ordeal. If they went bankrupt, would I lose my entire account? No one seems to be worried about this except me lol, so I must be just being too nervous I guess. I asked Jason in the FXCM thread the same question about an introducing broker, said he'd get back to me, but it's been a long time never heard back..
  • #157
  • Edited 9:50am Jun 24, 2015 7:57am | Edited 9:50am
if your trading style requires hedging and you need a U.S. Broker then an IB like ATC is worth looking at. Plus ATC offers other instruments, if you need that. options are limited in the U.S. if you need mt4. If you don't need mt4 and are worried about solvency, use interactive brokers. If you need mt4, then investigate mb trading, a private enterprise. Some serious investors own a large chunk of fxcm now, after the Snb fallout, so much so that there is a class action suit against the company for the dilution to the original shareholders. But the new investors must have liked the deal well enough. I Probably would make more buying fxcm stock than trading fx, lol

Edit: I also see that RJOBrien appears to offer spot as an IB; they are a reputable outfit I hear, although I don't know anything about their LP or technical offerings.
  • #158
  • Jun 25, 2015 6:43pm Jun 25, 2015 6:43pm
Quoting nonlinear
if your trading style requires hedging and you need a U.S. Broker then an IB like ATC is worth looking at. Plus ATC offers other instruments, if you need that. options are limited in the U.S. if you need mt4. If you don't need mt4 and are worried about solvency, use interactive brokers. If you need mt4, then investigate mb trading, a private enterprise. Some serious investors own a large chunk of fxcm now, after the Snb fallout, so much so that there is a class action suit against the company for the dilution to the original shareholders. But the...
thanks for the help nonlinear! I was going to go with interactive brokers until recently someone told me they've been with interactive for almost 10 years but they recently switched because things have been going downhill at interactive for awhile... oh I also hear quite often that interactive has terrible swap rates, and the minimum lot sizes are not friendly to those that are looking to get their feet wet... they also told me interactive has some tricky to use software, but my plan was simply to use my MT4 charts that i'm familiar with, and then place the trade with whatever software they offer. Is this a valid plan or is it not so simple? sounds like you have faith in FXCM surviving their loan repayments and law suits?
  • #159
  • Jun 26, 2015 6:22am Jun 26, 2015 6:22am
if you are trading higher timeframes then you could easily chart off of Mt4 and trade though interactive's software. It gets more difficult when you are trading on lower timeframes and with automated systems. There are a few bridges out there between mt4 and interactive but I hear they can be buggy, particularly if you need a good feed.

I don't have faith in any broker. Best to spread your money around with different brokers until you have enough to get a custodial account.
  • #160
  • Jun 26, 2015 3:34pm Jun 26, 2015 3:34pm
Quoting nonlinear
if you are trading higher timeframes then you could easily chart off of Mt4 and trade though interactive's software. It gets more difficult when you are trading on lower timeframes and with automated systems. There are a few bridges out there between mt4 and interactive but I hear they can be buggy, particularly if you need a good feed. I don't have faith in any broker. Best to spread your money around with different brokers until you have enough to get a custodial account.
alrighty thanks.. what are the benefits of a custodial account?
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