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  • #1,501
  • Jan 10, 2014 5:58pm Jan 10, 2014 5:58pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Clearly, yet again you show your ignorance. Opening a TE on a specific account does not make one a newbie. And you are correct, if I close all of positions right now, I would have a net loss. That is a normal function trade management. Now, are you going prove that you actually trade, or are going to keep on talking. Magix is generating stats, I am generating stats. YOU are running your mouth. Why? Because after seven years, you still do not know what you are doing.

Sorry I was on the tablet, I missed the 2nd TE, I understand why your attitude changed and you follow Magix so and support him, he's your Guru isn't he, your trading his Nedging method, basically Martingaling, but both directions at once, how much do you pay him for his Grid and his expertise ??

News flash, it does not work, just like normal Martingaling eventually a move will come and your small profits but will over whelmed by the large losers and you'll lose an account to a margin call.

That's why Magix sells his services to you after all!!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,502
  • Jan 10, 2014 5:59pm Jan 10, 2014 5:59pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} That's why you should be paying more attention to me and ignoring the guru's which are trying so so so so hard to discredit me, that would eat into there selling services on the side business, don't you think. Why else are they SO SO SO SO set against me!! * p.s. it's took years of hard graft to get there, only been a few months from version 1 of the method and still going to take ages at the time I get free to trade and my tiny account to get to 20K obviously I'm perfected V1 since, millions are sadly not possible!! That's why I encourage...
Please quit playing the victim card Turv, it is a pathetic thing to watch.

You made a claim, you were asked for stats, and given ways to establish those stats. Yet you squirm and wiggle like a little worm.

All hat, no cattle.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,503
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:03pm Jan 10, 2014 6:03pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Sorry I was on the tablet, I missed the 2nd TE, I understand why your attitude changed and you follow Magix so and support him, he's your Guru isn't he, your trading his Nedging method, basically Martingaling, but both directions at once, how much do you pay him for his Grid and his expertise ?? News flash, it does not work, just like normal Martingaling eventually a move will come and your small profits but will over whelmed by the large losers and you'll lose an account to a margin call. That's why Magix sells his services to you after...
If you paid any attention at all, Magix is not selling anything. He gave his EA to me when I asked for it.

He has publicly stated that Grid EA's blow up eventually. You see he is actually working a project to help other traders, trying to find out when to shut the EA off.

You are still avoiding putting up any stats at all. Nada, nothing. You have antagonists because you run your yap, but do nothing to back it up. And, you have been doing it a very long time!
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,504
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:03pm Jan 10, 2014 6:03pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Thing is Prox, this guy has been told how to open a TE, and myfxbook supports his broker. He pretends that he is too busy, but does not have the fundamentals of keeping a clean trading house understood. So yes, he lies. I have already started building some longs because of price movement. But during retraces it is normal to go negative for a while until the market decides what it wants to do. EURUSD has done just over half of its average monthly range, so we should see something good here soon I hope. Have you put together some rules...

What reason have I got to lie, really ??

I placed 1 trade and called the move live on here for a quick profit, so yet again where is the lie ??

I'd checked FF TE recently doesn't support, didn't realise FXCM is supported elsewhere, will set it up Sunday ( don't go on PC Saturday's it's my day off )

Game on!!
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  • #1,505
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:06pm Jan 10, 2014 6:06pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Please quit playing the victim card Turv, it is a pathetic thing to watch. You made a claim, you were asked for stats, and given ways to establish those stats. Yet you squirm and wiggle like a little worm. All hat, no cattle.

I think it's plain to see to all, what's going on here, the Why was my question and we have just answered that haven't we.
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  • #1,506
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:09pm Jan 10, 2014 6:09pm
Quoting jmn5611
And, you have been doing it a very long time!
Until people put him on ignore and he gets locked-out of most threads then he will only continue, and billy will follow him along. As much as I feel like it's just some kid on school holidays I can't imagine a kid this dumb and persistent to spam shit for so very fucking long and for so many years consistently. There is definitely mental illness involved here.

I don't even bother unhiding his posts anymore. It's all the same shit over and over.
Congratulations ScalaFX for coming out of the closet!
  • #1,507
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:11pm Jan 10, 2014 6:11pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} If you paid any attention at all, Magix is not selling anything. He gave his EA to me when I asked for it. He has publicly stated that Grid EA's blow up eventually. You see he is actually working a project to help other traders, trying to find out when to shut the EA off. You are still avoiding putting up any stats at all. Nada, nothing. You have antagonists because you run your yap, but do nothing to back it up. And, you have been doing it a very long time!

So he is your Guru then, hence your doing his dirty work LOL

But he really isn't helping other trade, he's if not funding his bank account via this, he's giving you false hope, wasting your time and costing you money with false promises.

By the time you work out, when to shut the EA off and stop accumulating positions, it's too late, it might buy your some time, you might get lucky and just miss a Margin call even a few times, but ultimately your doomed.

I've proven everything asked of my so far, but you'll never be happy, because you've been brain washed into believing the only way to profit is via Nedging, so you'll want to see 80% for years before your happy, then there will be another excuse and so on and so forth.

NEDGING!! LOL Newbie 101 trap!! LOL
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,508
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:13pm Jan 10, 2014 6:13pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Until people put him on ignore and he gets locked-out of most threads then he will only continue, and billy will follow him along. As much as I feel like it's just some kid on school holidays I can't imagine a kid this dumb and persistent to spam shit for so very fucking long and for so many years consistently. There is definitely mental illness involved here. I don't even bother unhiding his posts anymore. It's all the same shit over and over.

Your the mentally Ill 1 here Nub's, so are you 1 of Magix's Nedgers ?? or are you Magix's Guru, which is why Magix instantly started following you in your wild opinions and BS!!



More and More interesting!!
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  • #1,509
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:16pm Jan 10, 2014 6:16pm
Proximus, if you want to learn and test my method for yourself, it's really quite simple, so simple I can't believe I didn't spot it years ago

Troll free zone is here :-


http://www.forexfactory.com/showthre...61#post7205061

There are no hidden charges don't worry
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  • #1,510
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:18pm Jan 10, 2014 6:18pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} So he is your Guru then, hence your doing his dirty work LOL But he really isn't helping other trade, he's if not funding his bank account via this, he's giving you false hope, wasting your time and costing you money with false promises. By the time you work out, when to shut the EA off and stop accumulating positions, it's too late, it might buy your some time, you might get lucky and just miss a Margin call even a few times, but ultimately your doomed. I've proven everything asked of my so far, but you'll never be happy, because you've...
Are you insane? Where did I state that I was trading his method? I look at the ideas of anyone who is willing back them up with STATISTICS. I am a student of the markets. I can always learn something new.

You will talk about anything except WHY YOU REFUSE TO PUT UP A TRADE EXPLORER.

As far as your 80% claim goes, do it for one month, and I will put up an " I apologize Turveyd, you are the MAN" thread in the members lounge where you can tell us all what losers we are.

But I know I will never have to worry about that, will I ?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,511
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:20pm Jan 10, 2014 6:20pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Until people put him on ignore and he gets locked-out of most threads then he will only continue, and billy will follow him along. As much as I feel like it's just some kid on school holidays I can't imagine a kid this dumb and persistent to spam shit for so very fucking long and for so many years consistently. There is definitely mental illness involved here. I don't even bother unhiding his posts anymore. It's all the same shit over and over.

Only a nutter, would attempt to force his opinion on everyone else, especially as you have no logic or evidence for your opinion!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,512
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:22pm Jan 10, 2014 6:22pm
Quoting nubcake
{quote} Until people put him on ignore and he gets locked-out of most threads then he will only continue, and billy will follow him along. As much as I feel like it's just some kid on school holidays I can't imagine a kid this dumb and persistent to spam shit for so very fucking long and for so many years consistently. There is definitely mental illness involved here. I don't even bother unhiding his posts anymore. It's all the same shit over and over.
Whats so sad, or maybe good, depending on how you look at it, he is clearly ducking and dodging any attempt to pin him down to any kind of facts. I have never seen someone run so hard from a simple TE!

Now he is trying to redirect people to a thread where he has no proof of anything he says. That is the definition of a troll.........
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,513
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:22pm Jan 10, 2014 6:22pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Are you insane? Where did I state that I was trading his method? I look at the ideas of anyone who is willing back them up with STATISTICS. I am a student of the markets. I can always learn something new. You will talk about anything except WHY YOU REFUSE TO PUT UP A TRADE EXPLORER. As far as your 80% claim goes, do it for one month, and I will put up an " I apologize Turveyd, you are the MAN" thread in the members lounge where you can tell us all what losers we are. But I know I will never have to worry about that, will I ?

The part where you asked for his EA, which your using to place these trades ?? errrrmmmm, WHAT!!


I haven't refused to put up a TE I will do so naturally, I merely didn't think there was 1 I could use, awesome comes to mind.

Sit back and eat your words!
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,514
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:27pm Jan 10, 2014 6:27pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} Whats so sad, or maybe good, depending on how you look at it, he is clearly ducking and dodging any attempt to pin him down to any kind of facts. I have never seen someone run so hard from a simple TE! Now he is trying to redirect people to a thread where he has no proof of anything he says. That is the definition of a troll.........

Merely trying to get away from the BS troll's, which have a financial interest in selling methods which don't work to people.

There are live trades posted in there, winner and losers, if you check the time of the trade and price you'll see there valid.



No it's the definition of a trader trying to help other other traders and steer them away from your kind.

Sleep time, but we will continue this conversation, as need to know why your so keen to silence me, so many actual spammers and scammers and liars on this site, why focus all this energy on to me, about the only honest person on this entire site.

Fun day was had, hehehehehehe!!

Consider yourselves exposed!! better start building up 1 of your other ID's you've no doubt got setup these cash cows are about to come to an end.

LOL
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,515
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:33pm Jan 10, 2014 6:33pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} The part where you asked for his EA, which your using to place these trades ?? errrrmmmm, WHAT!! I haven't refused to put up a TE I will do so naturally, I merely didn't think there was 1 I could use, awesome comes to mind. Sit back and eat your words!
,

My God Man!!!

Please, please, please, look at the TE of Magix and myself, they not are even remotely similar! In fact, he is killing me right now.

Too bad you won't get in on the fun! And yes, I will definitely eat my words if you can pull 80%, for just one month.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,516
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:34pm Jan 10, 2014 6:34pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Merely trying to get away from the BS troll's, which have a financial interest in selling methods which don't work to people. There are live trades posted in there, winner and losers, if you check the time of the trade and price you'll see there valid. No it's the definition of a trader trying to help other other traders and steer them away from your kind. Sleep time, but we will continue this conversation, as need to know why your so keen to silence me, so many actual spammers and scammers and liars on this site, why focus all this energy...
A simple TE would be better, so will be looking for your link to myfxbook on Monday, right?
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
  • #1,517
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:36pm Jan 10, 2014 6:36pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} , My God Man!!! Please, please, please, look at the TE of Magix and myself, they not are even remotely similar! In fact, he is killing me right now. Too bad you won't get in on the fun! And yes, I will definitely eat my words if you can pull 80%, for just one month.

He's killing you on a demo account, that's only been open for a few days, it's trading at higher risk, it'll get vaporized before yours, but it looks good and he'll just start again as all demo and it looks good, it attract newbie's, the attraction of easy money.

Don't expect a lot of trades any time soon, sadly my days are pretty much booked up, no chance Monday and Tuesday meetings
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,518
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:41pm Jan 10, 2014 6:41pm
Quoting jmn5611
, Magix is not selling anything. He gave his EA to me when I asked for it. He has publicly stated that Grid EA's blow up eventually. You see he is actually working a project to help other traders, trying to find out when to shut the EA off.
Not entirely true, but close...

You see, the one single trader who got me back into working with the grids, this year, has earned $28,000, by starting off with $10,000 in market and only working with one of the EAs that I co-authored. I have introduced my logic into the EAs by way of triggers and the TOG strategy as well as the TOE, but cannot claim all the work to be mine. Thus the co-authored.

My point before, was that you can increase your gains by reducing your risk in trading in ranges that the grids will typically excel, which is the Market open to London Close Wednesday, and there are additionally 2 weeks per month where you can actually run these round the clock, Market Open to Market Close where there is a fairly consistent pattern of success with the grids, while maintaining a relatively low DD. Check any of the 4 that I have running now, and you can see the minimal DD on the week, while they continuously churned profits, this happened to be one of those weeks...

The addition to the strategies...there are several that can be implemented and this too sides with market predictability and definitely into the predictability that if left unattended, these can in fact do a lot more damage than can do good.

One of the main ones is that when they have generated net 25% gains on the account, close all trades, withdraw the profits, rinse and repeat. This will kill any of the major draw down and eliminate the chances of the bigger levels sweeping you out in a single market move. My personal strategy has been to close all trades on Friday (unless tested in demo), and start them fresh for Market open. This in itself lends to the logic that early week trading is prosperous where end of week trends can accumulate risk.

The other reason behind working with the Grid Traders is that it has accelerated my understanding of price patterns and market indicators past looking back at the charts. Seeing exactly where and when they take a trade has helped me to develop several profitable strategies as well as gives me my market edge when tripping the fast charts. The use of these is FANTASTIC as an educational tool, but must be appreciated as just that...they are here to help learn, and if you churn a few bucks in the process...ALL GOOD!!

I have increased my market awareness massively by just using these, which is exactly why I can spot bullshit in print. I take things in terms of code as I would tell them to a robot and can look at a chart to see if there is anything valid or if it is pure bullshit, like scurvy. 7 years, and if he started trading Matrix or Sonic anytime before, he wouldn't need to have these conversations, he too would be able to spot instead of spout bullshit...

The more he chatters, the less sense he makes and he hasn't had but a small fraction of his posts be either market relevant or thread related...

Pshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

Anyways...just thought I would clarify the basis and logic behind my responses....
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  • #1,519
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:41pm Jan 10, 2014 6:41pm
Quoting jmn5611
{quote} A simple TE would be better, so will be looking for your link to myfxbook on Monday, right?

Yes no idea, how it works never looked at 1, I see with MT4 I need a view only password, have not got 1, will I have to request, might be able to get on there website but there down already till Sunday's open.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #1,520
  • Jan 10, 2014 6:42pm Jan 10, 2014 6:42pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} He's killing you on a demo account, that's only been open for a few days, it's trading at higher risk, it'll get vaporized before yours, but it looks good and he'll just start again as all demo and it looks good, it attract newbie's, the attraction of easy money. Don't expect a lot of trades any time soon, sadly my days are pretty much booked up, no chance Monday and Tuesday meetings
You stated you are hobby trader, so that's fine.

All I ask for is stats Turv, and if yours are good, then the rest speaks for itself. No one is against you. But if you make claims, all that is asked is that you back them up, that's all. I really have no animus towards you at all.
If you are good at something, never do it for free--Joker
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