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  • #21
  • Jan 7, 2014 7:15am Jan 7, 2014 7:15am
This thread is better than a soap opera. So many fools chasing shadows. There is not one shred of evidence that NV has done anything wrong. There is not one shred of public evidence that NV has taken even one red cent from anyone here at FF. So far all of you idiots have made nothing but baseless, unproven and false accusations. I challenge any one of you to produce an ounce of credible evidence that NV has acted improperly or duped even one trader here at FF out of his/her hard-earned money.

I don't know how NVs trading will go. But if and when he proves himself will even one of you submit a proper apology? I think not because so far all of you are COWARDS!!!
  • #22
  • Edited 8:47am Jan 7, 2014 8:21am | Edited 8:47am
Winston: calm down. You seem to be quite emotionally invested in this whole affair. Never a good thing as far as money is concerned.

I don't believe the stories about him being that conman either, i agree that there is nothing that would suggest that. His information about his background sounds believable to me too, not that it bears any relevance for his endevaour as a money manager tho.

You have to question his motivation tho. I asked him on the 3rd post right in the beginning on his thread if he plans to market his strategy. The answer was he hadn't thought about it. Then a few pages later it was that he was decidedly not taking any new investeros. Then on page 12 it was "send my your contact info and account size". Funny, isn't it. To me its quite obvious that he was looking for new investors right from the beginning. Why else do all this work, post lengthy messages and even set up a new account for his myfxbook? Noone is a philantropist in this business. His hysterical reaction to this mess and making the thread read-only is another hint that he views his thread as a marketing vehicle for his business, and noone shall interfer with that.

Now that doesn't mean he is a con at all. But if i were to consider investing with him, i would ask myself: if he isn't upfront about his motivation of his presence here, what else is he not upfront about?

And don't be so easily sold on a strategy based on numbers from a few months. Countless trend-following funds have been whipsawed to death in low-volatility regimes. Its impossible to tell if nv can produce sustainable superior returns on a long term basis w/o a long term trackrecord. I do commend him for having a trade explorer tho, but always look at it with a cold, sceptical eye if someone wants other peoples money or even asks for investor leads.
  • #23
  • Jan 7, 2014 8:54am Jan 7, 2014 8:54am
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  • #24
  • Jan 7, 2014 9:00am Jan 7, 2014 9:00am
Quoting shrike
Winston: calm down. You seem to be quite emotionally invested in this whole affair. Never a good thing as far as money is concerned. I don't believe the stories about him being that conman either, i agree that there is nothing that would suggest that. His information about his background sounds believable to me too, not that it bears any relevance for his endevaour as a money manager tho. You have to question his motivation tho. I asked him on the 3rd post right in the beginning on his thread if he plans to market his strategy. The answer was he...
I'm quite calm Shrike. I have no investment emotional or otherwise. No more investment than that which causes you and others to continue posting drivel. You and others derive concocted conclusions from NV's posts. You say we should question his motivation. Why? You and other's seem to have NV figured out and know what his motivations are. You say it is obvious NV is looking for new investors. I cannot make any conclusions about NV other than what he has directly said in his posts. So far he has asked for no investment from anyone. You and the others posting in this ridiculous thread are the ones motivated to do nothing more than throw dirt. You are all in by book nothing more than petty cowards.
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  • Jan 7, 2014 9:22am Jan 7, 2014 9:22am
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  • #26
  • Jan 7, 2014 2:02pm Jan 7, 2014 2:02pm
Winston and other "members" defending NV_trader so passionately may turn out to be NV_trade's aliases here in the forum.
So, you think you have rights? LOL
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  • Jan 7, 2014 5:15pm Jan 7, 2014 5:15pm
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  • #28
  • Jan 8, 2014 10:30am Jan 8, 2014 10:30am
His TORRENCE B SHIPMAN twitter is live again @TheBigSexyCool begging for subs funnily enough he has got rid of the ex institutional trader bit but still shows being an avid Arsenal fan
  • #29
  • Jan 8, 2014 1:02pm Jan 8, 2014 1:02pm
This guy, Winston Reed , he is so involved in this drama that he banned me also. I have never crossed a word with him , never, i dont even know who he is and he did exactly the same as nv. The only thing I did was ask nv why he first said that he almost never watch a chart, he even post youtube videos about traders not using charts and a few pages later he is introducing his "system" with elliot waves, HH, LL, HL, LH, is this a crime? He is over reacting to a simple question. but that is ok, I don't need any of you two.
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  • #30
  • Jan 8, 2014 2:20pm Jan 8, 2014 2:20pm
unsubscribed..........not going anywhere from what I can see. Like Winston said just baseless accusations and assumptions
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  • #31
  • Jan 8, 2014 3:56pm Jan 8, 2014 3:56pm
Quoting remi05
His TORRENCE B SHIPMAN twitter is live again @TheBigSexyCool begging for subs funnily enough he has got rid of the ex institutional trader bit but still shows being an avid Arsenal fan

So since i posted the above he has now changed the name of this twitter handle to @FTSE_DAX_DIJA he has also removed the massive Arsenal fan in his bio to go along with the removal of the ex institutional trader bit...oh and now has changed his profile pic to someone completely different
  • #32
  • Jan 8, 2014 7:20pm Jan 8, 2014 7:20pm
Quoting Winston Reed
{quote} I'm quite calm Shrike. I have no investment emotional or otherwise. No more investment than that which causes you and others to continue posting drivel. You and others derive concocted conclusions from NV's posts. You say we should question his motivation. Why? You and other's seem to have NV figured out and know what his motivations are. You say it is obvious NV is looking for new investors. I cannot make any conclusions about NV other than what he has directly said in his posts. So far he has asked for no investment from anyone. You and...
he has asked for investments and he isnt here to teach his method he is not who he says he is and is nothing but a want to be trader fund manager, if he had made millions in his fund his words not mine. he would get funding no problem but its easy to get funds off day dreamers like you winstone i hope u havent sent any off yet because making money in fx is beyond most of you here.
so your all easy marks for nv .
nv you will do well fleecing the guys on here they are stupid and believe all your little stories .
still no real name for nv lol or a show of his 1k in funds trading in his micro account on ff explorer.
student
  • #33
  • Jan 8, 2014 7:29pm Jan 8, 2014 7:29pm
Quoting remi05
{quote} So since i posted the above he has now changed the name of this twitter handle to @FTSE_DAX_DIJA he has also removed the massive Arsenal fan in his bio to go along with the removal of the ex institutional trader bit...oh and now has changed his profile pic to someone completely different
shame the mods dont do the home work
student
  • #34
  • Jan 8, 2014 7:30pm Jan 8, 2014 7:30pm
Quoting Headly
unsubscribed..........not going anywhere from what I can see. Like Winston said just baseless accusations and assumptions
bit like your trading headly lol sorry bud had to get that in
student
  • #35
  • Jan 8, 2014 11:17pm Jan 8, 2014 11:17pm
Quoting anyone
{quote} He claimed to be a "fund manager" and you definitely should invest with him. His previous Iceberg System lost -40%, but his NEW systems are doing much better only down -9%. http://www.myfxbook.com/members/iceberg12
Why spend so much time to bash other people? Spend your time to come up a good system for yourself and others.
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  • #36
  • Jan 9, 2014 4:12am Jan 9, 2014 4:12am
it is so easy to criticize others and find faults, please avoid this mud slugging and give credit to NV at least he has balls to attach his live results.

till his live account is attached and he is showing profitable trades, let him trade the way he wants.
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  • #37
  • Jan 9, 2014 4:22am Jan 9, 2014 4:22am
Hello Gentlemen,

Please let there finally be peace!

You all came here to get a piece of knowledge from FF and use it to make money trading Forex.

If you cannot find what you looked for at "one source", please switch over to the next. The truth is, anyone who tries to fool or cheat the other person here at FF will sooner or later get on a trap.

I would suggest you leave NV Trader (Ex-Institutional Trader) alone. Try to focus on the main goal of your coming to FF, namely: making money in Forex. Get the knowledge and tools from whatever source you can trust and not get tied to one "god father".

Thank you for your kind attention.
  • #38
  • Edited 11:00am Jan 9, 2014 10:48am | Edited 11:00am
Yes what you say is true................I had the first system lose -40% and never made bones about it that the system did not perform as expected and also stated that I have replaced it for that reason.

It is very easy to just sit there and bash people......I know where I want to be and working towards that.

I don't see most of you wannabe traders with any kind of verified proof of trading.......just blowing hot air and trying to install negativity with no creative sceptism.

What is this about soliciting funds from FF members........It's a thread for commercial content so maybe some of you are in the wrong place.

What would all of you say if I posted my personal account with 1000%+ gain? I am sure some other issue would come to falsify the claim? Right.....

Just to make it easy for you guys to fuel the histeria........http://www.myfxbook.com/members/iceb...account/800994

If anyone of you bashers can do better be my guest.........If not just continue bashing.............
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  • #39
  • Jan 9, 2014 11:15am Jan 9, 2014 11:15am
i was impartial, but upon seeing your myfxbook link, i can't help it?

are you trying to humiliate yourself?

but it's ok, i believe there must be many who would invest in you.

Quoting Headly
http://www.myfxbook.com/members/iceb...account/800994 If anyone of you bashers can do better be my guest.........If not just continue bashing.............
  • #40
  • Jan 9, 2014 11:24am Jan 9, 2014 11:24am
Quoting anyone
{quote} Only because he is soliciting funds from FF members. Once his previous system lost -40% he quickly deleted it from Myfxbook. {quote}
Yes you are right.........But I have never tried to conceal the truth and act fraudulently just to steal anybody's money. So what are you really trying to prove.....Maybe some competition would be better than just to make it look like you're exposing a scam. But I forgot......you don't have anything to show.

If I had a client come on and said I had stole their money and promised them 100% a month.....fine


Welcome to the real world pal........Did you see what happened to one of Paulson's Gold Fund last year? Probably wouldn't know.......Too busy looking out for guys like us........
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