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  • #1
  • First Post: Jan 4, 2014 8:17am Jan 4, 2014 8:17am
this is his account link on zulutrade

http://copytrade.zulutrade.com/trader/176116?Lang=en

can anyone figure how his expert work ??

it gives fantastic results

it gives 8229 pips with a constant lot size in 1 month only ( 22 trading day ) the first opened trade was at 4 December 2013 the last one at 3 January 2014
can you imagine if we compound it what would happen

the draw down was 2% or 154 pips

you know if you increase the lot with every profit what we will get ???

100 dollars will be turned in to 1 million with max draw down 10% only and all the is in 1 month


i hope we can work together to discover this
  • #2
  • Jan 4, 2014 8:25am Jan 4, 2014 8:25am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
You should look little bit more closely.

24 weeks ... not 1 month.

Average pip/trade = 1pip ... You won't make a single $ on your side due to slippage.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #3
  • Jan 4, 2014 2:05pm Jan 4, 2014 2:05pm
This is a really bad attempt at advertising a system.
  • #4
  • Jan 4, 2014 2:15pm Jan 4, 2014 2:15pm
Quoting zelenko
this is his account link on zulutrade http://copytrade.zulutrade.com/trader/176116?Lang=en can anyone figure how his expert work ?? it gives fantastic results it gives 8229 pips with a constant lot size in 1 month only ( 22 trading day ) the first opened trade was at 4 December 2013 the last one at 3 January 2014 can you imagine if we compound it what would happen the draw down was 2% or 154 pips you know if you increase the lot with every profit what we will get ??? 100 dollars will be turned in to 1 million with max draw down 10% only...
Baaaaaaaa, ha ha ha ha ha,
happy new year to you, I hope all works out for you.
If that's not your zulutrade sig, then just follow him and cash in your 1pip/trade (minus slippage).

no need to figure it out.
Prob using a Karl Dittman breakout indi on 1min chart.
Come with me if you want to live....
  • #5
  • Jan 4, 2014 4:39pm Jan 4, 2014 4:39pm
what's wrong with you people

why you have this bad intentions against me ???

did you read what i write ?

i didn't say let's follow him

but i said let's figure how his expert work ( it uses correlation )

and if we manage to do that we run it in our accounts and take the profit

i also know that any one will follow this system will loose you can also take a look on his followers they are all loosing due to slippage

and that is the reason make me write this thread >>>>> to make similar expert and run it for our selves so there will be no slippage

did everyone get the idea now

and for ferru fx : yes he opened his zulu account from 24 weeks but he start using it from 1 month only ( see the date of openinig the trades )
  • #6
  • Jan 4, 2014 5:48pm Jan 4, 2014 5:48pm
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting zelenko
... and for ferru fx : yes he opened his zulu account from 24 weeks but he start using it from 1 month only ( see the date of openinig the trades )
His trade history starts in july ... and traded each month.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #7
  • Jan 4, 2014 6:51pm Jan 4, 2014 6:51pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} His trade history starts in July ... and traded each month.

i am sorry you are right

his first trade was at 18 July 2013

this mean he traded this way for 5.5 months

it still a magnificent result
  • #8
  • Jan 4, 2014 9:22pm Jan 4, 2014 9:22pm
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting zelenko
{quote} i am sorry you are right his first trade was at 18 July 2013 this mean he traded this way for 5.5 months it still a magnificent result
9,000+ trades with an average of 1 pip/trade ... You should find your own way to trade if you want to make some money.

BTW, if he was so magnificent, he won't be ranked #21,000
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #9
  • Jan 4, 2014 9:33pm Jan 4, 2014 9:33pm
LMAO, sorry for my worthless post.

Quoting FerruFx
{quote} BTW, if he was so magnificent, he won't be ranked #21,000
  • #10
  • Jan 4, 2014 11:35pm Jan 4, 2014 11:35pm
Quoting charvo
LMAO, sorry for my worthless post. {quote}
Where is your worthless post? Cannot find one.

Are you sure you replied with right User Name?
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #11
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:27am Jan 5, 2014 6:27am
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} 9,000+ trades with an average of 1 pip/trade ... You should find your own way to trade if you want to make some money. BTW, if he was so magnificent, he won't be ranked #21,000
are you good at math?

i will till you something

first let me till you he uses correlation so every time he open 3 trades at the same time so the 9000 trades was opened at 3000 occasions and as you see the average gain per trade is 1 pip so in one occasions ( 3 trades ) the profit will be 3 pip

do you know if we compound this 3 pip what could we have
let say we will use risk 1 : 1000
which mean

if the account was 1000 so we enter every positions with lot 1 dollar
if the account was 2000 so we enter every positions with lot 2 dollar

so at every occasion we win 3 pips from 1000 which equal 0.3% of the account

now we have 3000 occasion and every one give us profit 0.3% of the account
and let's say the account is 100 dollar

do you know how much will it be at the end

nearly about 1.3 million


finally

i don't care how zulu trade rank him i don't know the basis they use i care only about the other result : dd , pips , duration , total gain

and

if you don't like the thread simply don't waste your time and don't write any posts
  • #12
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:36am Jan 5, 2014 6:36am
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting zelenko
{quote} are you good at math?
I don't need to look at the strategy used by this signal provider.

The math is quite simple : 1 pip gain per trade in average ... less the slippage (entry + exit) ... you are in deb following him.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #13
  • Jan 5, 2014 8:28am Jan 5, 2014 8:28am
why you so believe that you are right and we are wrong?

you probably live in a dreamland, don't you see that?

that system winning 1 pip per trade cannot survive LIVE trading, no fucking broker will allow that happen. if you are a broker will you allow that???

and do you also believe that a system is legit/correct/sound by paying 2 pips commission and win 1 pip? in other words, trading cost alone is twice of profit.

Quoting zelenko
{quote} you see the average gain per trade is 1 pip so in one occasions ( 3 trades ) the profit will be 3 pip do you know if we compound this 3 pip what could we have let say we will use risk 1 : 1000 which mean if the account was 1000 so we enter every positions with lot 1 dollar if the account was 2000 so we enter every positions with lot 2 dollar so at every occasion we win 3 pips from 1000
  • #14
  • Jan 5, 2014 11:08am Jan 5, 2014 11:08am
Look at my sig. That one still have 2 bugs, which is take trade after london closed on friday and sometimes take the wrong direction. Some EA do works, that one didn't use any TF, indicator, pattern, etc. And set to trade on 5 digit pairs, that is the reason it was no good on JPY pairs. It would work in normal condition.

The key is patience, observation & motivation. First step is to learn how to trade manually, the second is to translate that stragegy to some algo. And yes, I wouldn't share it at any circumstances, neither sell it. I work on this myself, if anyone want it then make something similar yourself. There is no free lunch, no free ride. Haters gonna hate, lol!

I delete it on saturday but then I look this thread and decide to relink it. It was one of the reason I do not visit FF these days.

PS: I only want to show that it is possible for someone who still trying and ALMOST THERE! You wouldn't know when the time arrive, it could be in the near future. Just do not give up.
  • #15
  • Jan 5, 2014 2:46pm Jan 5, 2014 2:46pm
Quoting FerruFx
{quote} I don't need to look at the strategy used by this signal provider. The math is quite simple : 1 pip gain per trade in average ... less the slippage (entry + exit) ... you are in deb following him.
True

+ pay the man for following = no chance of making money whatsoever.
"To hold, you must first open your hand. Let go." - Lao Tzu
  • #16
  • Jan 5, 2014 5:50pm Jan 5, 2014 5:50pm
does anyone here read what i wrote ???

i never say let's go follow him

i say let's make a similar expert and run on our own accounts

charvo : if you look to his page you will see he is using a real account

and about the broker : i think any true ecn broker will have no problem running it
  • #17
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:06pm Jan 5, 2014 6:06pm
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting zelenko
does anyone here read what i wrote ??? i never say let's go follow him i say let's make a similar expert and run on our own accounts
In a Live account, that won't make any difference. You will give back to your broker that 1 pip per trade gain.
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #18
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:10pm Jan 5, 2014 6:10pm
look like hes making none more than slippage trading, his record is 24 hours trading every 2-5mins,
hope his broker find out soon what hes doing and apply what he deserves.
  • #19
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:15pm Jan 5, 2014 6:15pm
  •  FerruFx
  • Joined May 2007 | Status: MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder | 6,542 Posts | Online Now
Quoting acidguy
look like hes making none more than slippage trading, his record is 24 hours trading every 2-5mins, hope his broker find out soon what hes doing and apply what he deserves.
What he is doing is commission trading. More than 1,000 trades per month with 120 followers ... He should doing great !

However, look in the followers tab ... you will see than out of the 120 followers, the one who makes more money is $1 ...
MT4/MT5 EAs/Indicators/Alerts coder
  • #20
  • Jan 5, 2014 6:53pm Jan 5, 2014 6:53pm
Hi Zelenko,

Listen to these guys, especially FerruFx, they all have been there done that....
and they all just wanted to help you to stop wasting your time on that strategy and
focus more on understanding how the fx markets really works (Trends, S/R, Momentum, etc),
it will take a lot of time and efforts, but once you've had it, no one can take it away from you,
and the rewards surely make the journey worthwhile

Good Luck
Failure leads to Success if one learns from mistakes and never give up
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