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  • #421
  • Dec 16, 2013 8:43pm Dec 16, 2013 8:43pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} {quote} . I won't even elaborate here...
Thanks for elaborating your earlier post.
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  • #422
  • Dec 16, 2013 8:54pm Dec 16, 2013 8:54pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Thanks for elaborating your earlier post.
Well, it's one of my favourite topics...
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #423
  • Dec 16, 2013 8:57pm Dec 16, 2013 8:57pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} {quote} . I won't even elaborate here...
You get the "take a quote out of context" of the year award.
  • #424
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:07pm Dec 16, 2013 9:07pm
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} You get the "take a quote out of context" of the year award.
Award is always cool!

But: that's what you wrote - context or not...

If a man picks some system that isn't even proved to be profitable that only means he's a bonehead - there's enough of profitable ones...
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #425
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:09pm Dec 16, 2013 9:09pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} If a man picks some system that isn't even proved to be profitable that only means he's a bonehead
SPC * Swollen PocketZ Crew!
  • #426
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:20pm Dec 16, 2013 9:20pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Award is always cool! But: that's what you wrote - context or not... If a man picks some system that isn't even proved to be profitable that only means he's a bonehead - there's enough of profitable ones...
Context is everything asshole. I said what I said because I was speaking of a particular group of traders who use "systems" that don't have an edge. In that case the psychology has nothing to do with it. Go find something else to do tonight instead of picking apart posts and trying to act smart.
  • #427
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:28pm Dec 16, 2013 9:28pm
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} Context is everything asshole. I said what I said because I was speaking of a particular group of traders who use "systems" that don't have an edge. In that case the psychology has nothing to do with it. Go find something else to do tonight instead of picking apart posts and trying to act smart.
Oh, sounds angry...

If you wrote crap or meant another thing you'd better admit it. When people start to be aggressive that only means they screwed up and wanna conceal it - looks ludicrous.

If a man is so dumb that he've chosen a system which wasn't proved to be profitable and trying to make some dough with it - you're maybe right - psychology won't help here - he'll lose anyway...
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #428
  • Dec 16, 2013 9:49pm Dec 16, 2013 9:49pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Oh, sounds angry... If you wrote crap or meant another thing you'd better admit it. When people start to be aggressive that only means they screwed up and wanna conceal it - looks ludicrous. If a man is so dumb that he've chosen a system which wasn't proved to be profitable and trying to make some dough with it - you're maybe right - psychology won't help here - he'll lose anyway...
I just don't have as high a tolerance for your bullshit as other people apparently do. And yes, that's exactly what I said in the first place. But simply because it all wasn't in one run-on sentence for you it seems to have tripped you up a little.
  • #429
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:00pm Dec 16, 2013 10:00pm
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} I just don't have as high a tolerance for your bullshit as other people apparently do.
I'd rather say you don't tolerate people saying you wrote bullshit and having a proof for it...

You're not alone -
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  • #430
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:07pm Dec 16, 2013 10:07pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} I'd rather say you don't tolerate people saying you wrote bullshit and having a proof for it... You're not alone - {image}
You're nothing but a forum troll who contributes nothing useful whatsoever. Take a hike.
  • #431
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:10pm Dec 16, 2013 10:10pm
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} You're nothing but a forum troll who contributes nothing useful whatsoever. Take a hike.
Bullshit as well!

EDIT: ignore button is still there!
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #432
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:12pm Dec 16, 2013 10:12pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Bullshit as well! EDIT: ignore button is still there!
I'd forgotten entirely. Excellent suggestion.
  • #433
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:14pm Dec 16, 2013 10:14pm
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} I'd forgotten entirely. Excellent suggestion.
And this man said I wasn't helpful!
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #434
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:21pm Dec 16, 2013 10:21pm
Let's cool the game down and stick with the facts. Let us keep an open mind about things. It is not because a system has not been proven before by anyone else that it is totally bad. I have myself tendency to explore also outside of what is generally accepted as truth. There is still a possibility that it means that we face an advancement in how we look at markets or a partial/total faceplant. In the event of a failure we still can learn from it. One need not to make all the mistakes himself/herself to learn, we can share the knowledge and draw our own conclusions. I would encourage everybody to challenge one's approach to the market through contructive questioning and perhaps together we may learn something.
  • #435
  • Dec 16, 2013 10:43pm Dec 16, 2013 10:43pm
Quoting Typhoan
It is not because a system has not been proven before by anyone else that it is totally bad. I have myself tendency to explore also outside of what is generally accepted as truth. There is still a possibility that it means that we face an advancement in how we look at markets or a partial/total faceplant.
Why does one need to prove something if there's plenty of already working methods?
Quoting Typhoan
In the event of a failure we still can learn from it. One need not to make all the mistakes himself/herself to learn, we can share the knowledge and draw our own conclusions.
Yes, we can, but one doesn't need to make his own mistakes if he's smart enough to avoid them and learn on other's.
Quoting Typhoan
I I would encourage everybody to challenge one's approach to the market through contructive questioning and perhaps together we may learn something.
So you think that a man who devoted years of life to a method, devised it, now raking in the dough with it [wouldn't take a system other than one like that] still gets it worse than you? You gotta be a genius! Unfortunately most people are not. Anyway it's much easier to pick a working system and stick with it - not to spend years on creating your own.
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #436
  • Dec 16, 2013 11:33pm Dec 16, 2013 11:33pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Why does one need to prove something if there's plenty of already working methods? {quote} Yes, we can, but one doesn't need to make his own mistakes if he's smart enough to avoid them and learn on other's. {quote} So you think that a man who devoted years of life to a method, devised it, now raking in the dough with it [wouldn't take a system other than one like that] still gets it worse than you? You gotta be a genius! Unfortunately most people are not. Anyway it's much easier to pick a working system and stick with it - not to spend years...
I do agree with you, there is systems that do work for some individuals. As for myself I can't resolve myself into predict the markets movement more than a few hours ahead therefore I do intraday (for the moment). As I progress who knows what my trading will be. Having said that, I make mistekes like anyone else. In my journey in forex I have learned to be open minded. I follow the market and not the opposite which is where I err ...when suddenly thinking that I am smarter than the market. The market has its own way of slapping me with reality. You are right to say that a paved road is easier but for some they don't fear to get out of their comfort zone and get a little mud on their tires. Learning is something different for everybody although you go at the same school with the same teacher.

Green pips for all!!

P.S. Please don't take it to a personal level in saying things like ''you're a genius''. I am not smarter than anybody here and I will learn even from you (from the good or the bad)
  • #437
  • Dec 16, 2013 11:54pm Dec 16, 2013 11:54pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Why does one need to prove something if there's plenty of already working methods?
You can read about something all you want however until you experience it for yourself, you can't tell for sure.
Besides the obvious mistakes which one does not need to repeat, we must understand why something works and why something fails.
For some experimentation is the way to go.
  • #438
  • Dec 17, 2013 12:38am Dec 17, 2013 12:38am
Quoting Typhoan
You are right to say that a paved road is easier but for some they don't fear to get out of their comfort zone and get a little mud on their tires.
No thing against getting out of the comfort zone BUT if I have an easier way which is already proven to be good and not-so-sure-will-work-at-all I'd rather choose the former.
Also, nothing against experimenting - but there's fine line here between just screwing things up even more...
Quoting Typhoan
I am not smarter than anybody here
No, I bet you are, as most people here are not at all open-minded and usually just sit tight with their beliefs [which are mostly of no good]
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #439
  • Dec 17, 2013 6:55am Dec 17, 2013 6:55am
Quoting Kanzler
{quote} You're nothing but a forum troll who contributes nothing useful whatsoever. Take a hike.
Money Can't Buy Happiness. Poverty Can't Buy SHIT! You Choose!
  • #440
  • Dec 17, 2013 7:13am Dec 17, 2013 7:13am
...walking in the garden picking flowers in the sun ahhh memories
With a good book and quality paper you can fine wipe your ass.
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