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  • #5,861
  • Dec 12, 2013 2:59am Dec 12, 2013 2:59am
We use 10 pips above or below 161.8% of AB leg in Ab=CD pattern for stops in 1H TF. How much pips do you use in smaller TF like M5, M15? I think stops must depend from pattern length.
  • #5,862
  • Dec 12, 2013 6:11am Dec 12, 2013 6:11am
Quoting hao
{quote} trade my other account. I do not enter the trade at the right time, I ordered on delay. a stoploss ratio r r 1/2 {image} decided to stop scrolling. {image}
opportunity to return, the adjusted price near to my previous entry. I call it: re-import trade. My reasoning is: price move from A to B. on its motion or may not be flat. letter I need is not flat. It creates the opportunity to enter a command.

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If lucky. rates may move higher.
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  • #5,863
  • Dec 12, 2013 6:20am Dec 12, 2013 6:20am
seeing if prices bounces up for potential entry
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  • #5,864
  • Dec 12, 2013 6:27am Dec 12, 2013 6:27am
Quoting FineForex
seeing if prices bounces up for potential entry {image}
I do not think so.
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  • #5,865
  • Dec 12, 2013 6:48am Dec 12, 2013 6:48am
Quoting hao
{quote} opportunity to return, the adjusted price near to my previous entry. I call it: re-import trade. My reasoning is: price move from A to B. on its motion or may not be flat. letter I need is not flat. It creates the opportunity to enter a command. {image} {image} If lucky. rates may move higher. {image}
Finally, if price go on blue area I will stop trading.
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  • #5,866
  • Dec 12, 2013 6:50am Dec 12, 2013 6:50am
Don't forget the cypher.
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  • #5,867
  • Dec 12, 2013 8:16am Dec 12, 2013 8:16am
Quoting FineForex
seeing if prices bounces up for potential entry {image}
looking for re-entry, sorry for all the drawings
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  • #5,868
  • Dec 12, 2013 8:24am Dec 12, 2013 8:24am
Hey Traders,
I made a great video on a trade GBPUSD with FineForex It will take a while to produce it it is about 45 min. It shows the process and having an expectation in real time We were 100% on the expectations 8 in total and great technical analysis. It shows you how simple the process is and how I stay ahead of price.

I will be up and I will post it.
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  • #5,869
  • Dec 12, 2013 8:36am Dec 12, 2013 8:36am
I want to also thank my friend Horuxito for his help with Kuramamy way to step in and help! Great post and content.

It's great to see how you all have grown as traders and market professionals. Your hard work is paying off.

I want to let Kuramamy know that you should find a time frame that you are comfortable with and master it. Bouncing around between time frames at your experience level produces confusion in bias and order flow. This is also not necessary. I will also ask that if you have a question that you use a current example, it makes it easier.

Looking at a monthly chart or weekly chart is completely pointless unless you are a position trader as Horuxito pointed out. If you are the average Joe you cannot afford to trade such time frame as the stops are not in line with what you can handle. If you are a swing trader and you are in trades from a couple of days to even a week or two the 1H chart or the 4H chart is your time frame of choice there is no benefit going beyond that.
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  • #5,870
  • Dec 12, 2013 8:49am Dec 12, 2013 8:49am
Quoting FineForex
{quote} looking for re-entry, sorry for all the drawings {image}
entered a short at agro C zone with Mini D completion.

short leash

edit = out lost a couple.
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  • #5,871
  • Dec 12, 2013 9:06am Dec 12, 2013 9:06am
Here is the video I promised you. I hope it helps you see how easy it is to stay ahead of price. It also shows you how there is no such thing as noise like all the experts say and how there is nothing random about price action. Keep it simple, learn order flow and price action. forget the patterns right now they will not make you a better trader. Post your questions or comments and stay ahead of price.

Make decisions based on expectations this was all done on a time frame many experts say cannot be traded on. Remove emotions be decisive and engage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=siZvTjlGyIM
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  • #5,872
  • Dec 12, 2013 9:31am Dec 12, 2013 9:31am
Quoting FineForex
{quote} entered a short at agro C zone with Mini D completion. short leash edit = out lost a couple. {image}
I took an agro C on the GBPUSD earlier on the 1H TF. The pair hit a long time high but I didnt think it would hold. Then there are signs that it is reversing to the downside to took the agro, going well so far, moved the SL to BE+10.

Edit: Just moved the SL to BE+25 to lock in more profit as it seems to be stalling a little more than I thought at the S/R level 1.6350. SL at 1.6375 still giving it room to breathe.

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Time to get a coffee and sit down to watch the video, sure it will be a great insight
  • #5,873
  • Dec 12, 2013 9:41am Dec 12, 2013 9:41am
Quoting hao
{quote} opportunity to return, the adjusted price near to my previous entry. I call it: re-import trade. My reasoning is: price move from A to B. on its motion or may not be flat. letter I need is not flat. It creates the opportunity to enter a command. {image} {image} If lucky. rates may move higher. {image}
Good trade hao, thanks for showing your traders and the reasoning for taken them in such as showing structure and reasoning on higher time frame

I like to look at higher time frame , find reversal or continuation pa to make a case for entry on lower time frame, ie the 1H chart, pls continue in showing your trades as possible
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  • #5,874
  • Edited 9:59am Dec 12, 2013 9:49am | Edited 9:59am
Quoting TheScorpS
{quote} Good trade hao, thanks for showing your traders and the reasoning for taken them in such as showing structure and reasoning on higher time frame I like to look at higher time frame , find reversal or continuation pa to make a case for entry on lower time frame, ie the 1H chart, pls continue in showing your trades as possible
you need to consider: commercial reasons. A model in a large enough extent can eliminate the small model.
commercial synthesis of I from 264 to the current page.
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  • #5,875
  • Dec 12, 2013 9:54am Dec 12, 2013 9:54am
Quoting hao
{quote} I'm not on cue, my business delays. ( 50% fib in PRZ ) candle Close on the Fib 50% straight line, draw conclusions: - randomly removed - Unauthorized adjustment should exceed the longest candle. ( or trees should be respected longest Fib. ) {image} {image} {image} {image}
I saw this commercial is the most interesting. Adjusted to the price many times before. It is important not to violate the price point of order entry.
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  • #5,876
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:36am Dec 12, 2013 10:36am
Quoting Mr. Pip
Here is the video I promised you. I hope it helps you see how easy it is to stay ahead of price. It also shows you how there is no such thing as noise like all the experts say and how there is nothing random about price action. Keep it simple, learn order flow and price action. forget the patterns right now they will not make you a better trader. Post your questions or comments and stay ahead of price. Make decisions based on expectations this was all done on a time frame many experts say cannot be traded on. Remove emotions be decisive and engage....
beautiful stuff.

a trader who shows it live

cant ask for more than that
  • #5,877
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:37am Dec 12, 2013 10:37am
My apologies you could not hear FineForex in the video we will get that corrected in the future. Also want to say great job to my friend 76bonco on a great trade he took part of the same one in the video. Great read way to go buddy!

I hope this shows you that this is for real and how developing this skill set will propel you to a whole other level of high performance trading.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #5,878
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:45am Dec 12, 2013 10:45am
Quoting Mr. Pip
My apologies you could not hear FineForex in the video we will get that corrected in the future. Also want to say great job to my friend 76bonco on a great trade he took part of the same one in the video. Great read way to go buddy! I hope this shows you that this is for real and how developing this skill set will propel you to a whole other level of high performance trading.
No need to apologize, excellent job. Thank you gentlemen.
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  • #5,879
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:46am Dec 12, 2013 10:46am
Quoting FineForex
{quote} beautiful stuff. a trader who shows it live cant ask for more than that
Thanks my man sorry your comments didn't come out over the music we will figure it out.
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #5,880
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:53am Dec 12, 2013 10:53am
Quoting Mr. Pip
I want to also thank my friend Horuxito for his help with Kuramamy way to step in and help! Great post and content. It's great to see how you all have grown as traders and market professionals. Your hard work is paying off.
Thank you for your words Mr. Pip. I really am thankful to you and this thread for all what we've been able to absorb. Harmonics really is "a different way to trade", specially since we are not interested in just having the pattern triangles but actually having an expectation by reading price and order flow.

I'm currently in page 21 reading the thread again. It's almost the 1st aniversary and is a nice moment to catch up!

Is great how a lot of the questions we have can be answered if we take the time to commit in the learning process and that means going back and read the thread from the very beginning. For example, the price action questions when we are getting to the PRZ were answered in the first posts, this is a 5 min (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6328397#post6328397) chart showing things like "last desperate attempt to test our confluence"

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