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  • Long Term Or Short Term
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  • #1
  • First Post: Dec 8, 2013 10:57pm Dec 8, 2013 10:57pm
Long term vs. the short term, which one is better to invest in? This is a question that is very debated.

witch one do you prefer and why?
  • #2
  • Dec 8, 2013 11:11pm Dec 8, 2013 11:11pm
Dont forget to vote
  • #3
  • Dec 8, 2013 11:14pm Dec 8, 2013 11:14pm
I don't see sense in holding a position for months, then to result with a loss - i prefer seeing my losses now and doing something about them
DON'T TRADE THE DIRECTION, TRADE THE MOVE
  • #4
  • Dec 9, 2013 12:30am Dec 9, 2013 12:30am
I have been short term trading for a long time, but during that time I have repeatedly tried to conquer (unsuccessfully) long term trading since many traders maintain that is the best way. With long term trading you have to use tiny position sizing to allow for much larger stops, and when the rewards come, you have many pips but just the same profit as a short term trade with a larger position and smaller stop. I still dabble in long term trades, but so far I haven't found them more profitable. I guess it boils down to your patience and personality.
  • #5
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:09am Dec 9, 2013 2:09am
  • #6
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:29am Dec 9, 2013 2:29am
Quoting Pipomagic
I don't see sense in holding a position for months, then to result with a loss - i prefer seeing my losses now and doing something about them

Same here mate
  • #7
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:36am Dec 9, 2013 2:36am
short term seems to suit me best - i have tried longer term, and each time i have lost ;(
keep hearing that i should be longer term, but just cannot do it well at all. scalping is what i am good at
  • #8
  • Dec 9, 2013 3:15am Dec 9, 2013 3:15am
This is something I keep asking myself month after month after month - so now I have taken the middle path - using daily to determine the trend, I enter in the trend of daily but on the signal of the 15 min and 1 hour - this helps me to make multiple entries in the direction of the trend ( longer timeframe) yet still making my IB volumes and keeps me clean of trades at the end of every day
  • #9
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:11am Dec 9, 2013 6:11am
fifo makes long term trading difficult for us in the states, unless your using ibfx....... my preference is long term for swap positive trades and short term for swap negative trades.....

long term for me is defined as roughly the monthly atr and short term would roughly be the 240 atr...... this of course varies per pair......h
to trade and code, keep both simple... no call to impress....h
  • #10
  • Dec 9, 2013 6:11am Dec 9, 2013 6:11am
Quoting Feefee
This is something I keep asking myself month after month after month - so now I have taken the middle path - using daily to determine the trend, I enter in the trend of daily but on the signal of the 15 min and 1 hour - this helps me to make multiple entries in the direction of the trend ( longer timeframe) yet still making my IB volumes and keeps me clean of trades at the end of every day

Ditto! i always feel its best to start a new trading day with a clean slate, i' am assuming daytrading is also classed as short-term trading right?
  • #11
  • Dec 9, 2013 7:23am Dec 9, 2013 7:23am
Forex, short term four weeks at most.

Futures and stocks........like holding those for at least 6 months
  • #12
  • Dec 9, 2013 10:25am Dec 9, 2013 10:25am
Quoting Feefee
This is something I keep asking myself month after month after month - so now I have taken the middle path - using daily to determine the trend, I enter in the trend of daily but on the signal of the 15 min and 1 hour - this helps me to make multiple entries in the direction of the trend ( longer timeframe) yet still making my IB volumes and keeps me clean of trades at the end of every day
Agree completely - nice way to trade - daily/15 min in combo
  • #13
  • Dec 9, 2013 11:07am Dec 9, 2013 11:07am
for the moment I will trade short term (5M and 15M). Long term, I do have problems holding the trade, because I do not want to give back some good pips and trust the long term trend.
  • #14
  • Dec 9, 2013 11:56am Dec 9, 2013 11:56am
Itīs not possible for me to vote in the poll, but ... Medium/Long Term!

PS: And thank you all for preferring the short term
  • #15
  • Dec 9, 2013 1:06pm Dec 9, 2013 1:06pm
Quoting 003
Itīs not possible for me to vote in the poll, but ... Medium/Long Term! PS: And thank you all for preferring the short term
yeah i forgot to add that one
  • #16
  • Dec 9, 2013 2:06pm Dec 9, 2013 2:06pm
I need to be able to sleep good at night and in order for me to do that, ALL POSITIONS MUST BE CLOSED.

Short term is more profitable when you know what you're doing anyway....
SPC * Swollen PocketZ Crew!
  • #17
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:33am Dec 12, 2013 10:33am
Quoting JoeNY
I need to be able to sleep good at night and in order for me to do that, ALL POSITIONS MUST BE CLOSED. Short term is more profitable when you know what you're doing anyway....
I also prefer ay trading, but its not true that short-term trading is always more profitable... One trader I know has tripled his account size by holding onto a trade for a month (of course it helped that he grabbed the bottom of the trend)
  • #18
  • Dec 12, 2013 10:53am Dec 12, 2013 10:53am
Great thread this

I am attempting to switch to longer term trading for three good reasons.

1/ It forces one to look at the longer term charts (daily or even weekly) which charts are far more reliable AFA correctly reading the trend.

2/ Remember the "LMT trading system"? Well "low maintenance trading" is far less stressful and means one can get on with other things as your trade progresses, constantly locking in profit - if you've read the long term trend properly!

3/ As the last poster so rightly points out, letting good trades run on and on can very quickly increase one's account balance!
  • #19
  • Edited 11:42am Dec 12, 2013 11:01am | Edited 11:42am
I meant it in a way as such. Lets say an instrument is trending a line. If you bought the beginning of the trend and held on until the end you will have the straight line x amount. But if you bought all the dips in the trend. You would have all the dip x amounts and most of the line x amounts which will equal more in the end. That is if you know what you are doing.

Quoting FXfairy
{quote} .... but its not true that short-term trading is always more profitable... One trader I know has tripled his account size by holding onto a trade for a month (of course it helped that he grabbed the bottom of the trend)
SPC * Swollen PocketZ Crew!
  • #20
  • Dec 12, 2013 11:23am Dec 12, 2013 11:23am
short term is often chosen because it panders to the natural urges that cause most to fail, they want it fast and big...

Consistent is the key element. If you trade h4 bars you find yourself stepping away from the charts and less lightly to make trader errors and bad judgement, and therefore consistency comes easier.
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