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  • #221
  • Dec 7, 2013 5:47am Dec 7, 2013 5:47am
Quoting GubyIQ
{quote} what makes you believe that you can average 180% per year for the next 3 years ?
I made it a couple of times already, during my sabbathical experiments so it's not that i believe it, i just know it.
  • #222
  • Edited 6:10am Dec 7, 2013 5:50am | Edited 6:10am
Quoting Chicky
I am NOT a fulltime trader. Trading is just my hobby. However, few years ago, traded fulltime for about a year. Results were not great, but I remained profitable during this period. Do not remember exact figure, but I believe made about 3% in that year. That was my story
Your perspective is very much appreciated. Thanks!
So what would you have changed in your trading plan, besides your starting capital, based on what you know now?
  • #223
  • Edited 5:47pm Dec 7, 2013 6:18am | Edited 5:47pm
Quoting Turveyd
Chicky no. 2 surely amount required depends on how good a trader you are and how good your edge is. Doubt many of us on here could get close to 50k let alone 300k.

Heck....why do people around here, have so many doubts about something that is good or on their view impossible?
So much disbelief...and lack of humble attitude.

Don't get me wrong Turveyd, I do not mean to ofend anyone....but it's kind of an annoying thing for me.
Maybe because I've made things before that some informed and knowlege good people said it could not be done...
Best Regards!
  • #224
  • Edited 8:14am Dec 7, 2013 7:04am | Edited 8:14am
Interesting thread!
Quoting Hatzerim
{quote} Heck....why do people around here, have some many doubts about something that is good or on their view impossible? So much disbelief...and lack of humble attitude. Don't get me wrong Turveyd, I do not mean to ofend anyone....but it's kind of an annoying thing for me. Maybie because I've made things before that some informed and knowlege good people said it could not be done...
Well, maybe cause it's true?
Most people around are targeting no more than those 300k [admittedly, some are not, me included]. Yet, haven't seen all of those 'most people' getting it. Some did, much more did't.
That's absolutely possible... but what is possible won't necessarily happen. Definitely not to everybody. Especially considering state of affairs in the industry.
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #225
  • Edited 7:35am Dec 7, 2013 7:15am | Edited 7:35am
Quoting Hatzerim
{quote} Heck....why do people around here, have some many doubts about something that is good or on their view impossible? So much disbelief...and lack of humble attitude. Don't get me wrong Turveyd, I do not mean to ofend anyone....but it's kind of an annoying thing for me. Maybie because I've made things before that some informed and knowlege good people said it could not be done...
Sorry, think you've miss read that, I'm trying to get to wage level and soon with less than 1K, so I think it's maths wise easy to do, not going crazy from the stress is the main issue too late for me.

I have watched a guy turn 5k into 100k+ in under a year day trading stocks.

Chicky made 3% in a year, we can all make 3% several times per day, if we work at it.

* Get to to 50K as in have 50K lying around to put into an account and at risk, not grow account to 50K
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #226
  • Dec 7, 2013 7:37am Dec 7, 2013 7:37am
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} Sorry, think you've miss read that, I'm trying to get to wage level and soon with less than 1K, so I think it's maths wise easy to do, not going crazy from the stress is the main issue too late for me. I have watched a guy turn 5k into 100k+ in under a year day trading stocks. Chicky made 3% in a year, we can all make 3% several times per day, if we work at it.
Check!

I'm sorry if I missed the point.
Have a nice weekend.
Best Regards!
  • #227
  • Edited 1:14pm Dec 7, 2013 1:03pm | Edited 1:14pm
Quoting Hatzerim
{quote} Heck....why do people around here, have some many doubts about something that is good or on their view impossible? So much disbelief...
The market is a reflection of the self, I guess that's what they are getting back from their own trading..doubts and disbelief.

Trading is the only profession where no two people get the same results from doing the same thing... and people tend to generalize what happens in their own experience, its human nature.

There's no doubt in my mind that many people make lots of money, many make a little money and many make no money. Its a fact whether we are see it or not.
  • #228
  • Dec 7, 2013 1:17pm Dec 7, 2013 1:17pm
Quoting tradista
{quote} The market is a reflection of the self, I guess that's what they are getting back from their own trading..doubts and disbelief. Trading is the only profession where no two people get the same results from doing the same thing and people tend to generalize what happens in their own experience, its human nature. Many people make lots of money, many make a little money and many make no money. Its a fact, period.
Oh, that's reasoning I like - facts​!
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #229
  • Dec 7, 2013 1:25pm Dec 7, 2013 1:25pm
Quoting tradista
{quote} Your perspective is very much appreciated. Thanks! So what would you have changed in your trading plan, besides your starting capital, based on what you know now?
The only issue I faced was my brokers. They never let me take trades when I wanted to. More than 90% of my orders never got filled. Then they changed the rules and I had to devise by-passes.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #230
  • Dec 7, 2013 1:36pm Dec 7, 2013 1:36pm
Show me one person....just one .... Who has been making more than 10% a month consistently for a year with drawdown 20% or less.... And I will never trade.

please do not misguide people. One can get lucky for a few times, but no one can remain consistently profitable with crazy returns. But if you insist, means you have no clue how this market works.
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #231
  • Dec 7, 2013 1:50pm Dec 7, 2013 1:50pm
Quoting Chicky
Show me one person....just one .... Who has been making more than 10% a month consistently for a year with drawdown 20% or less.... And I will never trade. please do not misguide people. One can get lucky for a few times, but no one can remain consistently profitable with crazy returns. But if you insist, means you have no clue how this market works.
That's your opinion from your experience and only valid if you believe nobody can trade better than you.

It really shouldn't be hard to do, most of the issue is we make it to complicated.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #232
  • Dec 7, 2013 2:35pm Dec 7, 2013 2:35pm
Quoting Chicky
Show me one person....just one .... Who has been making more than 10% a month consistently for a year with drawdown 20% or less.... And I will never trade..
prove the man wrong guys...it would be a first in this beautiful comunity
this should not be a problem since there are many ff members(more than 80% are succesfull if you read their claims) who are trading for a living....
  • #233
  • Dec 7, 2013 2:41pm Dec 7, 2013 2:41pm
Quoting Chicky
Show me one person....just one .... Who has been making more than 10% a month consistently for a year with drawdown 20% or less.... And I will never trade. please do not misguide people. One can get lucky for a few times, but no one can remain consistently profitable with crazy returns. But if you insist, means you have no clue how this market works.
Are you serious?

Cause if yes you'll have to stop trading as you said!

I personally wouldn't trade at all had it been this way...

You wanted one guy, here's my safe bet: realjumper
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #234
  • Dec 7, 2013 2:55pm Dec 7, 2013 2:55pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Are you serious? Cause if yes you'll have to stop trading as you said! I personally wouldn't trade at all had it been this way... You wanted one guy, here's my safe bet: realjumper
Where's the beef?
5,000 people here. Show me just one
The Thief of Wall Street
  • #235
  • Dec 7, 2013 2:55pm Dec 7, 2013 2:55pm
Quoting bradu
{quote} prove the man wrong guys...it would be a first in this beautiful comunity this should not be a problem since there are many ff members(more than 80% are succesfull if you read their claims) who are trading for a living....
You wrote bullshit.
Majority of people here are not profitable [my estimation 90-99%] and I didn't see even 50% of them claiming the are.
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #236
  • Dec 7, 2013 3:01pm Dec 7, 2013 3:01pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Where's the beef? 5,000 people here. Show me just one
You mean explorer?
Go ask him about it. You'll probably be sent to hell or somewhere near that
Though, I've seen enough of his live trades to conclude he is more profitable than 10% per month... You can read Genesis Thread you'll see yourself.
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #237
  • Dec 7, 2013 3:02pm Dec 7, 2013 3:02pm
Quoting Chicky
{quote} Where's the beef? 5,000 people here. Show me just one
You wouldn't believe us if we knew 1, GDR32 is my call on this.


I'd say 90% claim to be profitable, 1% actually gets there.

Not going to get there and to wage level, unless you try, really hard.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
  • #238
  • Dec 7, 2013 3:05pm Dec 7, 2013 3:05pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} You wrote bullshit. Majority of people here are not profitable [my estimation 90-99%] and I didn't see even 50% of them claiming the are.
before you answer in that manner...read carefully what i wrote: by their claims

so it is by their claims...not what you belive, or what your calculations are..

by the way...you are a full time trade (you claim to be in your descriprion)...share with us...unless of course you are a full time trader(unemployed or student) with parents money

conclusion: read carefully before posting bullshit
  • #239
  • Dec 7, 2013 3:05pm Dec 7, 2013 3:05pm
Quoting Turveyd
{quote} You wouldn't believe us if we knew 1, GDR32 is my call on this. I'd say 90% claim to be profitable, 1% actually gets there. Not going to get there and to wage level, unless you try, really hard.
Turv, where did you find those 90%? I mean for like a year consistently...

EDIT: yes, CLAIMING
The single most important factor is having control of your own life.
  • #240
  • Dec 7, 2013 3:14pm Dec 7, 2013 3:14pm
Quoting Mikkk01
{quote} Turv, where did you find those 90%? I mean for like a year consistently... EDIT: yes, CLAIMING
Pretty much everyone on here claims there profitable, there not obviously.

Just an ego thing.
Nothing to it, but to do it!!! Stick to the plan FOOL!!!!
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