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  • #41
  • Nov 25, 2013 9:41am Nov 25, 2013 9:41am
I'll dare to make a modest but biased statement:

It is too early for you to declare it is a holy grail (indestructable) system.

I can rougly estimate how your method works:

Across all trading vehicles (stock,index,commodity,forex), keep entering those moving strong, until overall you are in profit. Then you exit your basket. Your trading is very frequent, so profit rises quickly!

Now there's a problem. I'd expect you offer a clear-cut answer instead of circumventing it:

There will always be a scenario, during which everytime you enter a position, the market will go against you; and then you have to look for next market to enter. And finally you find that after entering say, 20 positions across 10 markets, most of them are against you NOW. and your margin is almost used up, what can you do at this point?

This is the fundamental challenge facing the basket system like yours. It doesn't come in initial weeks, but it surely come in several months unless, well, yours is real holy grail. If really holy grail, can you introduce (of coz not to reveal your secret) what your consideration is to this scenario?
  • #42
  • Nov 25, 2013 12:18pm Nov 25, 2013 12:18pm
Quoting OneMoreFloor
I'll dare to make a modest but biased statement: It is too early for you to declare it is a holy grail (indestructable) system. I can rougly estimate how your method works: Across all trading vehicles (stock,index,commodity,forex), keep entering those moving strong, until overall you are in profit. Then you exit your basket. Your trading is very frequent, so profit rises quickly! Now there's a problem. I'd expect you offer a clear-cut answer instead of circumventing it: There will always be a scenario, during which everytime you enter a position,...
The basket strategy has SL, TP and TS, I don't know what "fundamental challenges" your on about? In the scenario of the market going against us we use SL don't we?

FYI, the edge or secret of my strategy is not the money management accept...

Currently I'm working on to fully understand how deep the rabbit whole goes. Going beyond the comfort level of the system.

For example: timing, I know what the best and most profitable time to trade this strategy but, I also want to know the worst and least profitable time to trade this strategy. That is why I'm making frequent trades even in absolute worst times to enter into the market. The same goes with the hedging, finding out some more information about the relationship of the inter-market...

The strategy is not entirely new knew concept, but it is arguably easiest, least complicated, safest and fastest way to amass wealth trading Forex you will likely ever find.

There are some more addition FAQ that i get privately about my strategy that I need to address in here. So stick around for those.
  • #43
  • Nov 25, 2013 2:30pm Nov 25, 2013 2:30pm
Thanks for the transparent reply. Would you please tell what is, for a basket, your SL vs TP ratio? Return Risk, that is.

As a potential buyer, I need to know that to gain a little confidence at least. Return/Risk is an essential factor in trading, and releasing that won't reveal your holy grail.

Quoting Negus
{quote} The basket strategy has SL, TP and TS, I don't know what "fundamental challenges" your on about? In the scenario of the market going against us we use SL don't we?
  • #44
  • Nov 25, 2013 3:44pm Nov 25, 2013 3:44pm
Quoting OneMoreFloor
Thanks for the transparent reply. Would you please tell what is, for a basket, your SL vs TP ratio? Return Risk, that is. As a potential buyer, I need to know that to gain a little confidence at least. Return/Risk is an essential factor in trading, and releasing that won't reveal your holy grail. {quote}
For live account it would be 1 on 1 ratio. If TP = 50pip/$ then SL = 50pip/$

At the moment I'm experimenting with this demo account, and Monday is perfect day to test out new diminution of strategy as the market generally ranges up and down moving side ways. There are many statics we can use to enhance our strategies to gain more advantage in the market. For example: statistics show us that on Mondays the market be it forex, comodity or stocks generally moves side was ranging up and down. With live account I would be extremely weary to trade on Mondays specially the London and NYC session.
  • #45
  • Nov 25, 2013 8:20pm Nov 25, 2013 8:20pm
Hi Negus...!
pls for humanity sake.... have some decency in scamming. U dont know.... nothing about forex trading, which is visible in your words... if someone carefullly reads ur posts. U have an explorer which has made more than 4000 pips in losses, and U r claiming... more than 100 pips day in day out. Funny... it seems u keep ur profit trades, secret in a locker.. and only expose the loss trades? plsssss.... some newbies might fall in your trap, but pls think.... it's their hard earned money. Have mercy..... to those innocent souls! May god bless you....!
  • #46
  • Nov 25, 2013 11:33pm Nov 25, 2013 11:33pm
Negus does have various leverage types out there in the basket. It is possible to be down 4,000 pips and still be up, but those pips would need to be positions that had a smaller holding and lower leverage.

The strategy based on the basket of currencies looks like an attempted arb approach where you are hedging commodity/equity holdings against a few currency pairs based on their correlations. Your hope is that there is a mispricing eventually that comes your way after hedging the risk by taking both sides.

Holy grail it is not. If this were that brilliant and such a big winning idea you could at least demo the concept and provide an independently verified proof of a track record of results for a trading firm (if you were flat broke).

There is no holy grail. The best method is to trade your own way and figure out what works best for your trading schedule and risk tolerance and manage your trades accordingly. Traders are not doomed to losing every single time and the current statistics reflect a level of greed and ignorance that is rather sad, but yet plagues the industry.
  • #47
  • Nov 26, 2013 2:04am Nov 26, 2013 2:04am
Quoting vinforex7
Hi Negus...! pls for humanity sake.... have some decency in scamming. U dont know.... nothing about forex trading, which is visible in your words... if someone carefullly reads ur posts. U have an explorer which has made more than 4000 pips in losses, and U r claiming... more than 100 pips day in day out. Funny... it seems u keep ur profit trades, secret in a locker.. and only expose the loss trades? plsssss.... some newbies might fall in your trap, but pls think.... it's their hard earned money. Have mercy..... to those innocent souls! May god...
I'm all for bashing scammers but this post just displays your total lack of understanding of what is going on. The explorer shows a loss in pips but if you look there are several non forex instruments being traded for which there are no pips being recorded so the pips +/- figure in this account is meaningless.
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  • #48
  • Nov 26, 2013 5:41am Nov 26, 2013 5:41am
Quoting vinforex7
Hi Negus...! pls for humanity sake.... have some decency in scamming. U dont know.... nothing about forex trading, which is visible in your words... if someone carefullly reads ur posts. U have an explorer which has made more than 4000 pips in losses, and U r claiming... more than 100 pips day in day out. Funny... it seems u keep ur profit trades, secret in a locker.. and only expose the loss trades? plsssss.... some newbies might fall in your trap, but pls think.... it's their hard earned money. Have mercy..... to those innocent souls! May god...
It is not that I know nothing about forex but its you who can not read.

1) The demo that I'm using currently was on previously used for testing an EA which it was rubbish and lost many pips. (I said this in the binning)
2) If you know about explorers, there are many instruments that are not being recorded.
3) I have already shared my secret with three luck buyers. And they are overwhelmingly happy with what they got.

On this demo account I'm going to experiment care free to enhance the system. But very soon will open another live explorer with real money.

So take care for now.
  • #49
  • Nov 26, 2013 5:51am Nov 26, 2013 5:51am
Quoting Freevestor
Negus does have various leverage types out there in the basket. It is possible to be down 4,000 pips and still be up, but those pips would need to be positions that had a smaller holding and lower leverage. The strategy based on the basket of currencies looks like an attempted arb approach where you are hedging commodity/equity holdings against a few currency pairs based on their correlations. Your hope is that there is a mispricing eventually that comes your way after hedging the risk by taking both sides. Holy grail it is not. If this were that...
Theoretically It is possible to be down 4000 pips and still be up. But if your talking about my explorer then the demo account was in use for testing and EA that lost over 4000 pips and equal equities.

If you want to know what the system is all about then buy it and I will teach you least complicated, safest and fastest way to amass wealth trading Forex.
  • #50
  • Nov 26, 2013 6:09am Nov 26, 2013 6:09am
Quoting dannyrose
{quote} I'm all for bashing scammers but this post just displays your total lack of understanding of what is going on. The explorer shows a loss in pips but if you look there are several non forex instruments being traded for which there are no pips being recorded so the pips +/- figure in this account is meaningless.
The guys is banned from making any further stupid comments.
  • #51
  • Nov 26, 2013 8:50am Nov 26, 2013 8:50am
Negus, could you please make another demo for promotion purpose? by that I mean a demo showing promising run, straight to sky equity curve.

it is not quite effective to promote commercially using your experiment demo since you are trying to 'torture' its performance. do i make sense? i actually feel hesitant when i see yesterday's DD.......

Quoting Negus
{quote} If you want to know what the system is all about then buy it and I will teach you least complicated, safest and fastest way to amass wealth trading Forex.
  • #52
  • Nov 26, 2013 12:30pm Nov 26, 2013 12:30pm
If you could call your EA holy grail, I could call mine WHAT?. Whatever.
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  • #53
  • Nov 26, 2013 1:24pm Nov 26, 2013 1:24pm
Quoting Negus
{quote} Theoretically It is possible to be down 4000 pips and still be up. But if your talking about my explorer then the demo account was in use for testing and EA that lost over 4000 pips and equal equities. If you want to know what the system is all about then buy it and I will teach you least complicated, safest and fastest way to amass wealth trading Forex.
Don't care to. If you have the so-called Holy Grail, go find some investors that are willing to jump in on it or trade it yourself. Why ask for $350 a person for it or whatever you are charging? You can make so much more money by not going after retail folks.

Provide a business and trading plan to a VC or investment firm or even provide your documentation to a bank for a loan, if your plan is so foolproof you would take out a temporary loan to amass the wealth that you can supposedly generate every time.

If your solution was the real deal, you would go down that route rather than come on here. I'm in the business of trying to help traders become better traders without gimmicks and I'm not charging them. The industry gimmicks, signal providers, and so-called social trading providers do far more harm than good for this industry.
  • #54
  • Nov 26, 2013 1:30pm Nov 26, 2013 1:30pm
Quoting OneMoreFloor
Negus, could you please make another demo for promotion purpose? by that I mean a demo showing promising run, straight to sky equity curve. it is not quite effective to promote commercially using your experiment demo since you are trying to 'torture' its performance. do i make sense? i actually feel hesitant when i see yesterday's DD....... {quote}
Yes, I will open live account explorer soon as I finalized my plans for PAMM account. For now I have to consecrate my time on teaching and supporting those who already purchased the package. I have time only for one or two more buyers just to hit the target I set out on the first place.


For those clowns yelling scam, scam please save your breath for the real scams, the real criminals. If there are guys who feel they have been scammed by me they can come forward and will happy to return your money providing you prove you got scammed in anyway.



FYI, I've no desperate desire to put my system out there. You want the holy grail you buy it otherwise you can wait for my up coming PAMM account and if you like what you see you can invest on there or, ales you can also simply bugger off...
  • #55
  • Edited 1:51pm Nov 26, 2013 1:37pm | Edited 1:51pm
Quoting xlitang
If you could call your EA holy grail, I could call mine WHAT?. Whatever.
Your EA is a martingale system, which means sooner or later it will decimate your account. For now it is toying with you sooner or later the death run will come calling and you will be coming ruining to me for help
  • #56
  • Nov 26, 2013 1:47pm Nov 26, 2013 1:47pm
Quoting Freevestor
{quote} Don't care to. If you have the so-called Holy Grail, go find some investors that are willing to jump in on it or trade it yourself. Why ask for $350 a person for it or whatever you are charging? You can make so much more money by not going after retail folks. Provide a business and trading plan to a VC or investment firm or even provide your documentation to a bank for a loan, if your plan is so foolproof you would take out a temporary loan to amass the wealth that you can supposedly generate every time. If your solution was the real deal,...
Freevestor... That is what i did, I looked for investment and found some who saw the potential and invested. They did not bought my system the package that I offered with out due diligence, they understood what the holy grail is all about. So please do not insult their intelligence.

I wish you good luck with your business but there is no point coming in here to tell me how I should operate. You do your thing and let me do my thing.
  • #57
  • Last Post: Nov 26, 2013 4:22pm Nov 26, 2013 4:22pm
hello darkness my old friend.......

i have come to talk with you again......
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