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  • Nov 6, 2013 10:35am Nov 6, 2013 10:35am
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Hi Fui Yong,

How are you? The EUR is facinating ya
Just hit the news:

"The euro hit session highs against the dollar and yen on Wednesday, with traders citing a Market News report saying a rate cut by the European Central Bank was unlikely despite a drop in inflation."

I have not taken the trade. Taking the GU instead after looking at the USDindex chart LoL
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Hi Fui Yong, How are you? The EUR is facinating ya Just hit the news: "The euro hit session highs against the dollar and yen on Wednesday, with traders citing a Market News report saying a rate cut by the European Central Bank was unlikely despite a drop in inflation." I have not taken the trade. Taking the GU instead after looking at the USDindex chart LoL {image}
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I cannot find your chart on my MT4... what is the name?


All aboard the Bullish EU express coming soon....

Is this a massive Head and Shoulders on the macd on the EU.

I can find P.Nells original documents but cannot find much written or later examples of the macd and its patterns.

Can anyone help with more information about macd patterns with examples?
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{quote} I cannot find your chart on my MT4... what is the name? All aboard the Bullish EU express coming soon.... Is this a massive Head and Shoulders on the macd on the EU. I can find P.Nells original documents but cannot find much written or later examples of the macd and its patterns. Can anyone help with more information about macd patterns with examples? {image}
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Hi,

just go on page one, at the bottom of that page: " 4 Hour MACD Forex Strategy.pdf 635 KB | 213,394 downloads | Uploaded Aug 6, 2007 11:07am"

go on page 6.

Have a nice reading,
edit::: ON THE FIRST IMAGE: 1 is the Head, 3 is the pull back to HS, big move followed...

Yvon
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Here is an example of what I like the most.
TC in this case makes a big move at the pull back to HS,

Yvon

EDIT:
There is a possibility that the move down is not over yet.- technically the HS projection is about 450 pips from the neck line(1.3600). There is also a channel which the pair has reached already that could be a support. So maybe a small pull back before breaking that channel, making a TC then back down again to cover the HS projection, just maybe!
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this is image no 2 from post above post 26263)

image 2: see the up trend channel. As you can see the HS in within it.
Since it didn't break down the neck line, price moved back up to the upper trend line.---But important to understand is when price break down the neck line, it does break also the up channel. While breaking down the channel,the pull back to it is a TC that confirm the price is quitting that channel and is quite possible that the range covered in the channel that price just left would be repeated below; which imply usely a big move…that I like the most!
any comment welcome,


Yvon
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this is image no 2 from post above post 26263) image 2: see the up trend channel. As you can see the HS in within it. Since it didn't break down the neck line, price moved back up to the upper trend line.---But important to understand is when price break down the neck line, it does break also the up channel. While breaking down the channel,the pull back to it is a TC that confirm the price is quitting that channel and is quite possible that the range covered in the channel that price just left would be repeated below; which imply usely a big move…that...
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Perfect thankyou..

I have the Macd patterns from the original documents and I am reading again and again and again..

You have provided the information i was asking for.

It's good to see the patterns on real charts..

I am posting a lot on here to get the thread moving along so more people can share their experiences and we can learn together and faster from those in the know like yourself..

many thanks
Richard
 
 
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  • Nov 8, 2013 2:37am Nov 8, 2013 2:37am
  •  yaakruay
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NZD USD h4.

Is this a H&S pattern?

As i can make the Pattern Height from the neckline support the same distance down to the 365..

Macd is below zero
price is hovering around spaghetti 4 ma bunched togehter...so a break out is imminent (maybe)
Price is between 2 BRN

If price is too fall...could this be a valid set up?

But what is the trigger signal the lower high 6 bars previously?
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NZD USD h4. Is this a H&S pattern? As i can make the Pattern Height from the neckline support the same distance down to the 365.. Macd is below zero price is hovering around spaghetti 4 ma bunched togehter...so a break out is imminent (maybe) Price is between 2 BRN If price is too fall...could this be a valid set up? But what is the trigger signal the lower high 6 bars previously? {image}
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4hrs: evidence that the range has been covered already. That being said., my view: there is a HS under construction now. The direction not clear, traders put the shifter to neutral because news to come concerning USD, price is standing right in the middle of the channel! The market is quiet before the storm: NFP

EDIT: now, price just made a choice to go down ( I'm short), first target Is obvious!


2 possibilities: price doesn't cross the neckline and bounce back to reach the upper line of the range. if not, price keep going down to the HS projection, breaking the neckline as well as the lower part of the channel and possibly going down to the other limit of the channel, maybe, just maybe, will see!

there is a smaller HS having a lower target as projection: .8190
-take a look at his right shoulder...lower than the right shoulder.
- the market is fast and I don't have the timre towrite the anticipation from the small HS: BELOW THE 365.

took the trade late in NZDUSD but still doing good.
just closed trade at neckline +54 pips

Yvon
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EURCAD : I just close the trade for about 167 pips.- two shots at it!- same as nzdusd: price hit the lower trend line, will wait for next move on it.
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I'm staying in the EURUSD short and long in the USDCHF, for now
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EURCAD : I just close the trade for about 167 pips.- two shots at it!- same as nzdusd: price hit the lower trend line, will wait for next move on it. {image}
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Hi,

Help me out a little please...... okay then help me out a lot........ cheers.....

Can you hold my hand and walk me through your trade...

"PULL BACK TC what you like most"

1) This is the pullback to the 21 ma
2) spinner/doji candle
3) break below zero line on macd

This was your entry position?

I know it's more complicated than this and your eyes and brain tell you a lot more than we are talking about but i just want to clear the picture in my mind.

I want to eat your forex brain i hope this reads okay and not like some crazy internet weirdo....

Pull back TC this is your favourite set up....?

Best Regards
Richard
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In hindsight everyone is a winner..

But can we use the macd to stop trading losers?

Look for a fresh signal then we get a second hand one then a stale one...

Sure i usually trade the 2nd hand one or definitely the stale one...

Look at Trademin charts those TC's are the fresh or 2nd hand signals NEVER the stale signal...

Along with trading the macd patterns, we need to use it to stop ourselves trading too.....

right or wrong???? opinions?
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{quote} I cannot find your chart on my MT4... what is the name? All aboard the Bullish EU express coming soon.... Is this a massive Head and Shoulders on the macd on the EU. I can find P.Nells original documents but cannot find much written or later examples of the macd and its patterns. Can anyone help with more information about macd patterns with examples? {image}
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Dear Richard,

It is a USD index chart. I don't know if the MT4 provide it.
I am using reuters.

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The USD continue to strengthen against major currencies.
EUR and GBP facing downward pressure don't you think?
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{quote} Hi, Help me out a little please...... okay then help me out a lot........ cheers..... Can you hold my hand and walk me through your trade... "PULL BACK TC what you like most" 1) This is the pullback to the 21 ma 2) spinner/doji candle 3) break below zero line on macd This was your entry position? I know it's more complicated than this and your eyes and brain tell you a lot more than we are talking about but i just want to clear the picture in my mind. I want to eat your forex brain i hope this reads okay and not like some crazy internet...
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Hi Richard, it reads okay!
Here is my view on your questions,

have a nice reading,
Edit: a picture worth a thousand words: what I like the most
Yvon
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{quote} Hi Richard, it reads okay! Here is my view on your questions, have a nice reading, Edit: a picture worth a thousand words: what I like the most Yvon {image} {image}
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That's a really good explanation and thank you for taking the time to put the PDF document together.

I was shocked when I saw the effort and work you had put into it.

I can't thank you enough....

I will read and work through it over the next couple of days.

Enjoy the last of the weekend.

Regards
Richard...

PS...will search for HS on charts this week and post any findings for a discussion...
 
 
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Basic charts for Eur/USD.

Yellow trendline is the neck of the inverted head and shoulders.

Orange boxes are the shoulders.

Price far away from 8, 21

Macd making a RB.

BRN above PA

Previous candle is hammer like.

Again i think a retracement up is coming after the recent fall...i will be looking for selling opportunities later in the week.

Buy for now but it is counter trend so careful..

Basic analysis.... anyone else like to comment or ideas?

happy trading..
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can anyone tell where is the macd for this system
 
 
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can anyone tell where is the macd for this system
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Welcome..

The MACD for this system is available on MT4 indicator tab. You just need to
set it up by using the guidance in 4hour macd strategy .pdf file provided in the first page of this thread.

If you mean the colored MACD (red and green), just go and google "colored macd mql4". You may also find it in this thread.
All the information is already indexed by mr Philip Nel on the first page.

Meanwhile, my view on GU ^^

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Basic charts for Eur/USD. Yellow trendline is the neck of the inverted head and shoulders. Orange boxes are the shoulders. Price far away from 8, 21 Macd making a RB. BRN above PA Previous candle is hammer like. Again i think a retracement up is coming after the recent fall...i will be looking for selling opportunities later in the week. Buy for now but it is counter trend so careful.. Basic analysis.... anyone else like to comment or ideas? happy trading.. {image}
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I will stay out of the EU right now. Waiting the confirmation whether it will break the neckline
or indeed continue the trend.
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can anyone tell where is the macd for this system
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I think its the top on macdcoloured......

I just uploaded all macd in my expert/indicator folder..

anything else just ask..
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