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  • #61
  • Edited 6:16pm Nov 2, 2013 2:37pm | Edited 6:16pm
I couldn't stand by and let people trash a man who has become my mentor and also a friend. If you guys don't like the way he trades, or the way he teaches, you are more than welcome to walk the other way. But, the fact that you would take the time out of your life to try to trash a man who you don't even know, says a lot more about you than it does about him.

I've been a paying member of his site for about 6 months, and it is without a doubt, the most helpful group of traders that I could ever hope to be associated with. Does Strat have a system that makes you a million dollars on every trade? No. But, he shares his 20+ years of trading experience with us and most importantly he is ALWAYS there to evaluate your trades and to mentor you. You are right about a few things: he's arrogant, sarcastic, and sometimes grumpy, but so was my grandfather and he taught me everything I know today as a man. Plus, he's also funny, kind, and most importantly to me, he's always active in helping out new and old traders.

So, if you guys want to say you don't like him, fine, go for it. But, don't trash a man's reputation on here when he's spent countless hours trying to help bozo traders like you. I'm sure you're going to trash me now, or say that I'm really Strat, or say that he put me up to this. Trust me, the only reason I'm wasting my Saturday afternoon addressing this crap, is because I think Strat is a really good dude. And there are a bunch of other good guys on the site who have his back.
  • #62
  • Nov 3, 2013 4:54am Nov 3, 2013 4:54am
Quoting GabeConverse
I couldn't stand by and let people trash a man who has become my mentor and also a friend. If you guys don't like the way he trades, or the way he teaches, you are more than welcome to walk the other way. But, the fact that you would take the time out of your life to try to trash a man who you don't even know, says a lot more about you than it does about him. I've been a paying member of his site for about 6 months, and it is without a doubt, the most helpful group of traders that I could ever hope to be associated with. Does Strat have a system...
Some of us have been around FF for long enough to know a scammer bcos there have been quite a few.

Having said that, I actually don't think Strat is a scammer. But he is a totally unpleasant git and the only reason he posts on FF at all is to direct the gullible newbies to his paid for site.

If you are happy paying for a re-hash of all the stuff on here that you can get free that's up to you.

Is he any good - only you can tell - come back in 12 mths and tell us if you are still paying him.
  • #63
  • Nov 3, 2013 5:26am Nov 3, 2013 5:26am
You should also ask yourself why he does it.

And I would posit that he sells his signals bcos he makes more money from that than he ever could trading.
  • #64
  • Nov 3, 2013 4:01pm Nov 3, 2013 4:01pm
Quoting GabeConverse
I couldn't stand by and let people trash a man who has become my mentor and also a friend. If you guys don't like the way he trades, or the way he teaches, you are more than welcome to walk the other way. But, the fact that you would take the time out of your life to try to trash a man who you don't even know, says a lot more about you than it does about him. I've been a paying member of his site for about 6 months, and it is without a doubt, the most helpful group of traders that I could ever hope to be associated with. Does Strat have a system...
I second all the things you have written here Gabe, thanks for taking your time to post it.

I started to learn from Strat 3 years ago and since January 2013 I am active member of his forum. I can say from my EXPERIENCE that it is the best place to learn trading I have found in my career and I began my journey with FOREX in 2007.

Stewrigh, dude, If you are able to make money from the threads on PA, which were written here on FF and you don't need coaching to be profitable then cool and respect for you BUT please do not discourage other people to join really good forum where they can learn profitable trading and where they can find bunch of good guys to help them in this very dangerous journey.

As you probably know already, trading is not piece of cake. Most of people will fail but they can increase their odds of winning if they decide to learn under professional guidance. PLEASE DO NOT discourage them so recklessly.

Apart from Gabe, Yick, first_major and me, many more guys from our forum could write the same good things. THINK ABOUT IT.
Trade what you see, not what you expect. BE LIKE WATER MY FRIEND.
  • #65
  • Nov 4, 2013 9:15am Nov 4, 2013 9:15am
I am not trashing Strat - merely pointing out that he is is only here to promote his paid for signal service.

And his trading is a re-hash of stuff freely available on FF.

If you wanna pay for that GL.

Ask yourself why he does it - it ain't altruism I'll tell you that.

You think about that
  • #66
  • Nov 4, 2013 3:20pm Nov 4, 2013 3:20pm
Why is it that criticism is so frowned upon?Both Banui and GabeConverse are taking the exposure of "strat" far too personally.Can both of you guys say that your are making money from "strat',I bet not.Do either of you actually know strat's name,I bet not.You need to open your eyes and see the trees.
  • #67
  • Nov 6, 2013 1:37pm Nov 6, 2013 1:37pm

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  2. strat | Commercial Member | Joined Feb 2009


PASR TREND TRADING

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How many newbies does this crap suck in each time good old strat/trogger posts?Now what is his name again...."strat",no his real name?How much money are the groupies making?

  • #68
  • Edited 9:39am Nov 7, 2013 6:17am | Edited 9:39am
Quoting stewrigh
I am not trashing Strat - merely pointing out that he is is only here to promote his paid for signal service. And his trading is a re-hash of stuff freely available on FF. If you wanna pay for that GL. Ask yourself why he does it - it ain't altruism I'll tell you that. You think about that

First of all, it is not signal service thing. FAR FROM THAT. It is designed to TEACH people how to fish instead of giving them fish.

You will be successful ONLY if you put A LOT of your precious time into this. No shortcuts here, trading is like learning any other profession (perhaps it is the most difficult profession to learn).

Secondly, yes I wanna pay for that (in fact in December I will make my last payment and then I will have lifetime access to the forum for free) becausethere is HUGE difference between reading material for free on FF and implementing this material in my personal journal under the guidance of proffesionals. Do you feel the difference? If you can't grasp this difference and it doesn't matter for you if you have good coach and mentor then you are not serious about your learning.
Again, gaining proficiency in any walk of life requires TEACHER. If you are able to trade full-time and you have never had a teacher id est you are forex genius then fine but don't neglect the fact that most people need one. If you want to cut your learning curve and you want to be successful in this bussines find good a teacher.

Thirdly, I don't spend my time thinking if Strat has good or bad intentions or if he is doing it out of altruism or not. What I know and have already experienced is that when I have doubt or question I will receive an answer from him the same day and sometimes this is a really long answer. This is suffice for me to conclude that STRAT IS CREDIBLE AND HE DOES SPEND A LOT OF HIS TIME TO LEARN PEOPLE HOW TO TRADE.

If 99 USD per month (for 12 months) for professional coaching and learning with other people is a big deal for you then you are not serious about trading.
Although, It's good that this amount of money is enough to separate people who really want to learn from people who jump from method to method and treat trading as painful hobby.
And really I don't know what is this fuss all about. In life you have to pay for everything. Even your primary school was paid by your parents in taxes.
It's simple exchange, you buy someone's time.

To sum it up, guys, think twice before you write something and do not judge people so easily (examine first yourself and your intentions).
Spend your time on learning trading rather than accusing someone recklessly.

All the best on your path to success,
Chris
Trade what you see, not what you expect. BE LIKE WATER MY FRIEND.
  • #69
  • Nov 7, 2013 3:13pm Nov 7, 2013 3:13pm
http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1383850864

How does good old strat/trogger get those lovely multi colored MA's on his charts,is there any significance in the color scheme?Does it improve profitability?Do any of the groupies make money?What is strat's real name?Why does he choose anonymity?These questions are perfectly reasonable so let's have some reasonable answers.
  • #70
  • Nov 7, 2013 5:57pm Nov 7, 2013 5:57pm
Quoting Baniu
{quote} First of all, it is not signal service thing. FAR FROM THAT. It is designed to TEACH people how to fish instead of giving them fish. You will be successful ONLY if you put A LOT of your precious time into this. No shortcuts here, trading is like learning any other profession (perhaps it is the most difficult profession to learn). Secondly, yes I wanna pay for that (in fact in December I will make my last payment and then I will have lifetime access to the forum for free) becausethere is HUGE difference between reading material for free on...

Ok I'll ask you again - why do you think Strat does what he does.

Bcos he makes money by charging suckers for something that he has stolen from someone else/

Strat is a leech and a plagiarist and if he was a good trader he would just trade - There is an old adage that goes.... 'those who can do - those who can't teach'.

I have only had a cursory glance at his thread but the plagiarism is obvious and it was mostly stolen from traders on FF.
Ppl like fti, J16 Jankone and others.

That is what I really object to - he has taken someone elses material and passes it off as his own - to me that is, if not outright criminal, unforgivable.
  • #71
  • Nov 8, 2013 5:29am Nov 8, 2013 5:29am
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Ok I'll ask you again - why do you think Strat does what he does. Bcos he makes money by charging suckers for something that he has stolen from someone else/ Strat is a leech and a plagiarist and if he was a good trader he would just trade - There is an old adage that goes.... 'those who can do - those who can't teach'. I have only had a cursory glance at his thread but the plagiarism is obvious and it was mostly stolen from traders on FF. Ppl like fti, J16 Jankone and others. That is what I really object to - he has taken someone elses...

Ok, I see that any normal, substantial dialogue is impossible with you. In fact you are just being rude calling me a sucker (already reported for clean up)and all the other forum members plus you acusse other FF member for stealing something (what? from whom?). Sorry but I think that you might have some obsessive thoughts that someone HAS STOLEN! something from someone. Hmmm, when I look at you ignore list it becomes more and more clear to me that thrasing others just for the sake of thrasing is your hobby.

Amount of 99USD is charged for TUTORING not some non-existent magic formula. You know, when you would like to learn my mother tongue - Polish, you would go to a good teacher - native speaker rather learn with a book for 5 years just to discover that after this long time you can't say one sentence right.

Ok, this is my last post here, as any substantial discussion here is impossible.

Oh BTW, would you call J16 plagiarist and leech as well? I think that he also teaches PA trading for cash. Didn't he steal his methods from someone? Maybe from Merlin? Or the great PA Inventor?

And the answer to you question doesn't matter to me because I get professional tutoring everyday.
Trade what you see, not what you expect. BE LIKE WATER MY FRIEND.
  • #72
  • Nov 8, 2013 6:20am Nov 8, 2013 6:20am
Quoting Baniu
{quote} Ok, I see that any normal, substantial dialogue is impossible with you. In fact you are just being rude calling me a sucker (already reported for clean up)and all the other forum members plus you acusse other FF member for stealing something (what? from whom?). Sorry but I think that you might have some obsessive thoughts that someone HAS STOLEN! something from someone. Hmmm, when I look at you ignore list it becomes more and more clear to me that thrasing others just for the sake of thrasing is your hobby. Amount of 99USD is charged for...
I didn't call you specifically a sucker, but if the cap fits.
  • #73
  • Nov 8, 2013 6:28am Nov 8, 2013 6:28am
Quoting Baniu
{quote} Ok, I see that any normal, substantial dialogue is impossible with you. In fact you are just being rude calling me a sucker (already reported for clean up)and all the other forum members plus you acusse other FF member for stealing something (what? from whom?). Sorry but I think that you might have some obsessive thoughts that someone HAS STOLEN! something from someone. Hmmm, when I look at you ignore list it becomes more and more clear to me that thrasing others just for the sake of thrasing is your hobby. Amount of 99USD is charged for...
Oh BTW, would you call J16 plagiarist yes Probably but I thought we were discussing Strat.

My ignore list should really be a lot longer bcos there are only a few ppl on FF worth reading anyway.
  • #74
  • Nov 8, 2013 6:46am Nov 8, 2013 6:46am
Quoting Baniu
{quote} Ok, I see that any normal, substantial dialogue is impossible with you. In fact you are just being rude calling me a sucker (already reported for clean up)and all the other forum members plus you acusse other FF member for stealing something (what? from whom?). Sorry but I think that you might have some obsessive thoughts that someone HAS STOLEN! something from someone. Hmmm, when I look at you ignore list it becomes more and more clear to me that thrasing others just for the sake of thrasing is your hobby. Amount of 99USD is charged for...

Have you ever been told that trading is 90% psychology - thought not.

The basics are easy to learn - it's the other 90% that's hard and no-one can teach you that.
  • #75
  • Nov 8, 2013 5:46pm Nov 8, 2013 5:46pm
Quoting stewrigh
{quote} Have you ever been told that trading is 90% psychology - thought not. The basics are easy to learn - it's the other 90% that's hard and no-one can teach you that.
You are wrong, saying no one can teach you trading psychology. Strat is doing this, day by day, one to one. It seems to me, reading your posts, you are totaly dissatisfied with your trading. Does all these negativ words about Strat help you? If so, let it be.
I was reading this thread, before I join Strat. And I`m happy, I didn`t listen you. It is the best decision, I made. All I want to say, was already said here, by GabeConverse and Baniu. Just one more thing, for the people, that are struggle with trading and are serious about it, don`t let that someone disrespect, turn you around from Strat. You will never regret.
This is my first and last post on this thread.
  • #76
  • Nov 16, 2013 7:33am Nov 16, 2013 7:33am
Just caught up with some of Strats latest posts - wish he'd make his mind up.

In the last few pages he's said he doesn't trade box breakouts - then he later posts a chart doing exactly that but says its the PASR method.

Then he posts a chart that shows how his method aligns to elliot waves - well if you have followed Strat for any time you'll know what he thinks of Elliot waves.

What is PASR anyway? - it's support and resistance - just about every thread on FF trades SR.

What a load of BS
  • #77
  • Nov 16, 2013 5:11pm Nov 16, 2013 5:11pm
I tried everything before I developed PASR.

I paid for Prechter and Frost tuition among others and bought Advanced GET software and others I can't remember but couldn't get it to work consistently so dumped it and moved on. I don't trade EW but use it for confirmation when I can SEE the count and it meets all the EW criteria.

Now good old "strat" claims he developed "price action support and resistance" trading,this is after spending 200k on every other method including Elliot Wave.The man's a genius, I'd love to see his monthly account statements....making a fortune no doubt.The groupies need to open their eyes wide because "strat" is a con man.
  • #78
  • Nov 16, 2013 9:11pm Nov 16, 2013 9:11pm
Latest words of wisdom from Strat - presumably you gotta pay if you wanna know which way tho. Bet whichever way it goes Strat will claim that PASR called it right

Can I suggest that if you read FF you already know the answer anyway so save yourself the Strat subscription fee.

EURAUD

PASR 250+ pip trade coming up
  • #79
  • Nov 16, 2013 9:17pm Nov 16, 2013 9:17pm
Just in case ur wondering......

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  • #80
  • Nov 20, 2013 2:16am Nov 20, 2013 2:16am
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What a hypocrite,he's now using Elliot Wave...Strat you are unbelievable, desperation perhaps?
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