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  • #2,281
  • Jul 7, 2013 4:55pm Jul 7, 2013 4:55pm
The more I hear about Java the more I am thinking it is bad news.
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  • #2,282
  • Jul 7, 2013 6:09pm Jul 7, 2013 6:09pm
Quoting Exodus
The more I hear about Java the more I am thinking it is bad news.
You are just hearing about Java? Java is used everywhere. It is one of the most popular programming languages. It has been around since 1995 and billions of applications use it (yes billions, that is not an exaggeration)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(...ming_language)

Like any software you should keep it up to date

You don't have to access Dukascopy via Java. They have Web, Andriod and Apple IOS clients as well. Also if you don't trust your local Java you can upload your strategies to run on their servers so you can turn off your computer and your strategy continues working fine and you can access it from anywhere.

but, feel free not to use it. I am doing very well with my Java strategies running on Dukascopy.
They allow you to download all Java strategies that the monthly contest winners used. So you don't even have to be a good programmer. You can just use other peoples winning strategies
  • #2,283
  • Jul 7, 2013 6:13pm Jul 7, 2013 6:13pm
Quoting Chubbly
{quote} You are just hearing about Java? Java is used everywhere. It is one of the most popular programming languages. It has been around since 1995 and billions of applications use it (yes billions, that is not an exaggeration) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_(...ming_language) Like any software you should keep it up to date You don't have to access Dukascopy via Java. They have Web, Andriod and Apple IOS clients as well. Also if you don't trust your local Java you can upload your strategies to run on their servers so you can...
Right! Obviously I have been sucking my eggs from the wrong end... :nerd:
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  • #2,284
  • Jul 7, 2013 6:26pm Jul 7, 2013 6:26pm
Java is that thing that tries to install the Ask-toolbar during every update. Borderline-malware in my book.
  • #2,285
  • Jul 8, 2013 6:58am Jul 8, 2013 6:58am
Quoting shrike
Java is that thing that tries to install the Ask-toolbar during every update. Borderline-malware in my book.
The funny part is you likely don't realize how much software uses Java. You use it unknowingly all the time. It is the most embedded software out there.

Suit yourself if you think manual trading will get you rich. I have changed over an automated Java strategy. The main reasons are it trades 24 hours a day and it has no emotions
  • #2,286
  • Jul 8, 2013 12:52pm Jul 8, 2013 12:52pm
Quoting Chubbly
{quote} The funny part is you likely don't realize how much software uses Java. You use it unknowingly all the time. It is the most embedded software out there. Suit yourself if you think manual trading will get you rich. I have changed over an automated Java strategy. The main reasons are it trades 24 hours a day and it has no emotions
Actually I was using Java for the three (?) years that I had a Duka account, I closed due to withdrawing my funds to below $5K.
Now I am with OandA using FXtrade, which uses Java.
Before that anyone wanting a sneaky peek might have used the DailyFX free charts, for which you need Java installed.....

My comment about Java was based upon the public warning in the press a few months ago about the general weakness of the interpreted language making it open to exploitation by hackers, and the fact that OandA made their trading platform cease to function until Java was upgraded to the most recent release.

All in all it is a bit MicroSoft Internet Explorer-ish, IE version 6 for instance.....
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  • #2,287
  • Jul 17, 2013 1:10pm Jul 17, 2013 1:10pm
1.Can I use my MT4 EA with Ducascopy ?
2.What is the max spread on EURUSD ( news time ) ?

Thank you
  • #2,288
  • Jul 17, 2013 1:35pm Jul 17, 2013 1:35pm
Quoting zola320
1.Can I use my MT4 EA with Ducascopy ? 2.What is the max spread on EURUSD ( news time ) ? Thank you
1) I believe there is a converter for MT4 -> JForex
2) pretty tight, it probably goes out to 3 or 4 pips but that is irrelevant when price is jumping around so quickly that numbers become meaningless.
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  • #2,289
  • Jul 17, 2013 1:45pm Jul 17, 2013 1:45pm
Quoting Exodus
{quote} 1) I believe there is a converter for MT4 -> JForex 2) pretty tight, it probably goes out to 3 or 4 pips but that is irrelevant when price is jumping around so quickly that numbers become meaningless.
thank you

I just dont want that my SL is hit because of high spread, but under 5 is ok
  • #2,290
  • Jul 17, 2013 1:52pm Jul 17, 2013 1:52pm
Quoting zola320
{quote} thank you I just dont want that my SL is hit because of high spread, but under 5 is ok
You are welcome. Sunday night at market-open the spreads get quite wide, can't remember now how wide but seem to think about 15 depending upon things... S'pose you could watch the live prices on their website.
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  • #2,291
  • Aug 4, 2013 11:51am Aug 4, 2013 11:51am
This may have more to do with the Dukascopy execution time. In my experience the average execution time on the Dukascopy server side (measured from when the order is received to when the order is filled) is about 500 to 600ms. Add an average internet round trip latency of about 100ms to that time and you can see when the large slippage is occuring around news time. The above figures are recorded using Market Orders.

I'm beginning to consider changing to another broker solely because of this issue, I cannot understand why (and nobody from Dukas can explain to me) why execution time is so long. I'm currently not a scalper trader, but if I was the execution latency would destroy a lot of the profit.
  • #2,292
  • Aug 5, 2013 4:57pm Aug 5, 2013 4:57pm
How is their MT4 bridge working ?

Cannot decide between Alpari UK or Duka...
  • #2,293
  • Edited 7:07pm Aug 5, 2013 6:07pm | Edited 7:07pm
Quoting 64f
This may have more to do with the Dukascopy execution time. In my experience the average execution time on the Dukascopy server side (measured from when the order is received to when the order is filled) is about 500 to 600ms. Add an average internet round trip latency of about 100ms to that time and you can see when the large slippage is occuring around news time. The above figures are recorded using Market Orders. I'm beginning to consider changing to another broker solely because of this issue, I cannot understand why (and nobody from Dukas can...
Why in hell should someone scalp with Dukas over a MT4 bridge ??
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  • #2,294
  • Aug 6, 2013 4:07am Aug 6, 2013 4:07am
Quoting dragongold
{quote} Yes you can !! After you open Dukascopy Europe account if you want to transfer to Dukascopy Bank, then all you have to do is just refill out the application form on dukascopy bank website. It's an easier process, because dukascopy would already have all your other documents. For more details you could ask your account manager.
I have asked this from my account manager and his response it was: because the swiss and the eu is 2 diff company I have to take the registration procedure from 0.


The only one good news is/was: I can ask in registration form to be my account manager at swiss who is at eu, if I want.

I was lazy to make again those papers...
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  • #2,295
  • Aug 6, 2013 4:13am Aug 6, 2013 4:13am
Quoting Toranaga
{quote} Why in hell should someone scalp with Dukas over a MT4 bridge ??
because he believes must be an ecn for scalp and most be mt4 because that preffered by him.
the spread+comission is higher than oandas spread....
at news time oanda has 6-10 pip spread ducas has delay. but he don't know how much and is hoping in less. he believes the less is the cheaper )
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  • #2,296
  • Aug 8, 2013 1:24am Aug 8, 2013 1:24am
i hope them to setup their MT4
not just a bridge with FTT :s
  • #2,297
  • Aug 8, 2013 4:23am Aug 8, 2013 4:23am
Quoting matheszabi
{quote} because he believes must be an ecn for scalp and most be mt4 because that preffered by him.

Quoting matheszabi
the spread+comission is higher than oandas spread....
true
Quoting matheszabi
at news time oanda has 6-10 pip spread ducas has delay. but he don't know how much and is hoping in less. he believes the less is the cheaper )
Currently running an Oanda account and at news times I wish I still had my Dukas account. Also there are other things you can do on Dukas which you cannot do on Oanda, like hedge in the same currency for instance. I wonder if they will let me re-open my account without all the paperwork.......
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  • #2,298
  • Aug 12, 2013 4:53pm Aug 12, 2013 4:53pm
Quoting Exodus
Also there are other things you can do on Dukas which you cannot do on Oanda, like hedge in the same currency for instance. I wonder if they will let me re-open my account without all the paperwork.......
If you have 10k than I would suggest LMAX instead of Dukas, because less paperwork at opening! All eu / uk based brokers allows hedge, not sure why Oanda UK not!
At LMAX they will send you letter in paper format! - I have closed account with they I am lazy to go and receive all they spamming letters in recommended mode. When will they change they policy or it will be an option to unsubscribe from those paper spams I will open an account with they.

I think only 1:100 leverage is allowed at LMAX only, and at Dukas I has 1:30 to 1:300 too (eu for 300). I am fine with max 1:20 , 1:50 not needed more, unless hedge.
Dukas force me hedge position for weekend above 1:30, blah... hard to get out in profit from froced hedge
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  • #2,299
  • Aug 12, 2013 5:04pm Aug 12, 2013 5:04pm
swiss are not what they used to be. they toilet-joined Europe and face same dangers.

I would be careful going with swiss broker.
  • #2,300
  • Aug 12, 2013 5:41pm Aug 12, 2013 5:41pm
I accidentally had a chat with the OandA rep today. Seems I can hedge the same instrument if I open sub-accounts and run longs from one sub- and shorts from the other !!

Quoting matheszabi
If you have 10k than I would suggest LMAX instead of Dukas, because less paperwork at opening! All eu / uk based brokers allows hedge, not sure why Oanda UK not!
My trading did less well last year so I moved all my cash into stocks where it has been making a satisfying return.
Running a small account with OandA until I want to go back to serious money.
I will check LMAX, I have a bin just under the letter box.....
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