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  • #4,301
  • Jul 23, 2013 4:18pm Jul 23, 2013 4:18pm
Quoting Forex Lion
hmm, does your 15M chart looks like this? strange ZZ, or? {image}

Try using ZigZag from post #3162 (http://www.forexfactory.com/showthread.php?p=6832396#post6832396)
Settings for your zz-look: 0 / 50 / 2.0
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Don't try to buy at the bottom or sell at the top Bernard Baruch
  • #4,302
  • Edited 10:46pm Jul 23, 2013 4:26pm | Edited 10:46pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} The issue of what designates a proper piercing of Bollinger Bands rears its ugly head. Does it include price Close or not? Would you rather leave it up to an indicator or work it out yourself? The 1H poses some interesting questions, at least for me. The 15M shows that the fake Top didn't couldn't have been a ZZTop because there was no prior ZZBottom... I posted yesterday that I found that weird and I didn't take the trade.... well that has cost me. By interpreting the price being out of BB as a legitimate Top... the analysis then made the...
Re-Read Eurusdd concept again.


The CI keep hang the system, like high cpu utilization. had to take out .
The zones also look difficult to use for me, also take out.
Now clearer.

Note:
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Interesting, I kanna banned by the owner without warning.
Very amusing.

But I had to thank him for all these wonderful stuff.
I am not a spy or destructor, I know he is talented, so i joining.
This last chart, i got the understanding of Sim-Desim from the mistake other people make.
And understand very well by participating instead of sitting quietly reading material.

Thank you very much.
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  • #4,303
  • Jul 23, 2013 5:09pm Jul 23, 2013 5:09pm
Quoting Me3w
{quote} Re-Read Eurusdd concept again. The CI keep hang the system, like high cpu utilization. had to take out . The zones also look difficult to use for me, also take out. Now clearer. {image}
err.. which one? there are 200+ pages to look through. please be specific.
I understand BBZZ. I Understand Zones but done rank them higher than BBZZ. I don't care about CI just yet and i'm aware of the high level fractal geometry that is going on.... which concept are you referring to?
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,304
  • Jul 23, 2013 5:12pm Jul 23, 2013 5:12pm
Testing something out on a Daily basis.
Short at market
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A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,305
  • Edited 10:33pm Jul 23, 2013 5:19pm | Edited 10:33pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} err.. which one? there are 200+ pages to look through. please be specific. I understand BBZZ. I Understand Zones but done rank them higher than BBZZ. I don't care about CI just yet and i'm aware of the high level fractal geometry that is going on.... which concept are you referring to?
Sim-Desim.

Mostly your stoch no BB, cannot see it.

My Final work
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  • #4,306
  • Jul 23, 2013 5:19pm Jul 23, 2013 5:19pm
Calling on MadMoney and other CI experts:

Can I please enlist your help in getting the BEST settings for the Top/Bottom picker format that can be best aligned with the 1H and/or 4H (1H preferred) ZigZag or Semafor values. Don't need the Confirmation format.

If I can use your CI with what I am testing I will report back after 5 trading days to test my theory... unless Eurusdd reveals all or more and invalidates my theory.

Many thanks
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,307
  • Jul 23, 2013 5:23pm Jul 23, 2013 5:23pm
Quoting Me3w
{quote} Sim-Desim. Mostly your stoch no BB, cannot see it.
Yes I know.
It was a problem with not having MT4 at work. I have solved that tonight.
That doesn't answer the question of what I have to re-read. I understand Sim-Desim, its executing it that is challenging.
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,308
  • Edited 5:57pm Jul 23, 2013 5:40pm | Edited 5:57pm
Quoting vlady1974
{quote} Yes I know. It was a problem with not having MT4 at work. I have solved that tonight. That doesn't answer the question of what I
have to re-read. I understand Sim-Desim, its executing it that is challenging.
Just joking. emulate other people.
don't be serious.
if you feel offended. then sorry for that.

You are very well verse in these concepts. I admire you.
When i do my homework, i will keep record of your chart & answers to other people.
Sometimes no clear what eurusdd talking, i had to search your reference and other successful people.

CI don't not concern you.
Just hope that someone see it, can give some help
Kind of like 1 stone 2 bird. maybe not a good idea. should put in another posting.
  • #4,309
  • Jul 23, 2013 6:49pm Jul 23, 2013 6:49pm
It would seem Eurusdd's black hole is starting...

Time to short folks
  • #4,310
  • Jul 23, 2013 7:13pm Jul 23, 2013 7:13pm
Wow this thread really blows up during my working hours, just got time to look at the charts, ended up going long for the time being (ZZ bottom and M5 CI/PAF concurred):
http://charts.mql5.com/2/103/eurusd-...oration-10.png
http://charts.mql5.com/2/103/eurusd-...orporation.png
Ok, maybe a little aggressive on the zz bottom, but that's what practice is for.
  • #4,311
  • Jul 23, 2013 7:24pm Jul 23, 2013 7:24pm
Do the other major pairs influence the EURUSD? Several of them had zones taken out on the upswing. As soon as the AUDUSD was taken out, everything started reversing. USDJPY still has a zone to be taken out.
  • #4,312
  • Jul 23, 2013 7:59pm Jul 23, 2013 7:59pm
Quoting slimjim
Wow this thread really blows up during my working hours, just got time to look at the charts, ended up going long for the time being (ZZ bottom and M5 CI/PAF concurred): {image} {image} Ok, maybe a little aggressive on the zz bottom, but that's what practice is for.
anxious to know what CI setting you used for , ......would be great if people used indi with transparent setting on it, just like mine
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  • #4,313
  • Jul 23, 2013 10:51pm Jul 23, 2013 10:51pm
Quoting crodzilla
Here is another interesting read for you EURUSDD... "Scaling, self-similarity and multifractality in FX markets" {image}
Hi there

Excellent thread, many thanks! I've been watching from afar and trying to apply these concepts, but the Math aspect caught my attention.

From the paper that Crodzilla posted: -
"The non-linearity of the scaling exponent provides evidence for multifractal properties
of USD–DEM returns."

So, H is non-linear and you use a genetic algorithm to determine H and consequently periods of similarity and dis-similarity.
I guess all this is coded in a non-MT4 language to get the performance you need?

Cheers

Paul
  • #4,314
  • Jul 23, 2013 11:02pm Jul 23, 2013 11:02pm
Hi great thread.. thanks for sharing.. still trying to understand the core.. lol..

idk if this useful for all of u.. if u want to experimenting with my CI mod and BB mod.. maybe u want to set specific time/date (candle) to start your CI or BB calculations. or select different MA method or MA price.. hope it help..
Kiads.

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  • #4,315
  • Jul 23, 2013 11:42pm Jul 23, 2013 11:42pm
Quoting Me3w
{quote} Just joking. emulate other people. don't be serious. if you feel offended. then sorry for that. You are very well verse in these concepts. I admire you. When i do my homework, i will keep record of your chart & answers to other people. Sometimes no clear what eurusdd talking, i had to search your reference and other successful people. CI don't not concern you. Just hope that someone see it, can give some help Kind of like 1 stone 2 bird. maybe not a good idea. should put in another posting.
No problem. It's just that this thread is unique in that we are talking about 1 general idea broken down into 3 implementation ideas based on indicators. So people have to be specific about what they are referring to in order to just keep up. I am happy to be critiqued but I have my own notes so tell me the specific bit so I can go back and check that too.
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,316
  • Jul 23, 2013 11:45pm Jul 23, 2013 11:45pm
Quoting Stinky
Do the other major pairs influence the EURUSD? Several of them had zones taken out on the upswing. As soon as the AUDUSD was taken out, everything started reversing. USDJPY still has a zone to be taken out.
I mentioned this previously with UJ and EJ but there were no takers. There are some AUD traders as well as others who are using the CI method. MadMoney is one, another is J--- can't remember! sorry!
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,317
  • Jul 23, 2013 11:52pm Jul 23, 2013 11:52pm
Quoting vlady1974
Testing something out on a Daily basis. Short at market {image}
I am predicting this to be a DOWN day. Ie. Close < Open
Trade placed 1H after midnight. That is an offset of 9 hours from 9am GMT not Daylight Savings
A pip is only worth it if you know how much you risked to earn it
  • #4,318
  • Jul 24, 2013 12:34am Jul 24, 2013 12:34am
1.33xx real soon now.
  • #4,319
  • Jul 24, 2013 12:38am Jul 24, 2013 12:38am
Don't you guys ever sleep?

I really thought price would fall after correcting the problem at 1.32!
No zones above to correct.
Would expect down from here, so I hoping that the spike upwards now is a false breakout.

I know, I know, don't trade what you expect, trade what you see. But I might be seeing a false breakout!?
What do you guys think?
  • #4,320
  • Jul 24, 2013 12:40am Jul 24, 2013 12:40am
Hmmmm, me thinks things not going quite according to plan???

Don't think we can ignore news completely - at least not at this stage of learning the system...
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