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  • #481
  • Jul 15, 2013 11:25pm Jul 15, 2013 11:25pm
Well, the two previous posters have identified the biggest problem with moving average systems and that is when the price is not clearly trending. An inside bar defines a ranging market and an outside bar defines a dynamic break out from a range. Observing and trading these set ups, especially at pivot points (and by pivot points I mean any type of support or resistance) is key to trading in my opinion.
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  • #482
  • Jul 16, 2013 12:02am Jul 16, 2013 12:02am
Quoting smikester
Well, the two previous posters have identified the biggest problem with moving average systems and that is when the price is not clearly trending. An inside bar defines a ranging market and an outside bar defines a dynamic break out from a range. Observing and trading these set ups, especially at pivot points (and by pivot points I mean any type of support or resistance) is key to trading in my opinion.
Hi Smikester hope you are good. I agree with you only thing is I trade opening breakouts and inside bars as my main trading and in this thread they are discussing using MA . As you must of seen I am trying 2 methods of trading MA both of which are quite good and when nothing is happening I start to go off the subject and speak inside bars lol. I do think deep down that trading MA is very difficult it all gets down to the entry, be good
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #483
  • Jul 16, 2013 12:09am Jul 16, 2013 12:09am
Quoting 45drive45
{quote} i usually trade outside bars! so you probbaly get in earlier than me! Almost the same strategy, i trade ob with the trend using 10, 21,50 ema do you get many fake breaks?
Hi, I am trying 2 methods of MA one is 2/20 and the other is 9/18/30. I trade these 2 methods regardless of inside bars. as in keep it simple and trade triggers only. My main trading methods are open range breakout and inside bars but you can put all the information into one big picture. I do get false breakouts but that is part of trading and like you I do trade outside bars too, be good I am trading very soon so I will be quiet lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #484
  • Jul 16, 2013 12:58am Jul 16, 2013 12:58am
my main trade has gone in e/j and now it looks almost certain I will be shorting e/j on the 2/20 method, the 9/18/30 has already gone in
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #485
  • Jul 16, 2013 1:25am Jul 16, 2013 1:25am
so far hard work lol
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  • #486
  • Jul 16, 2013 6:05am Jul 16, 2013 6:05am
now I can speak. I traded the us open with e/j but got out first chance I had so I did not get the normal 30 pips. as for the 2/20 ema cross. I made 2 short trades and took 10 pips each trade and on a third entry I was busted. that was pure stupidity and greed. even if it had gone into profit it was still STUPID AND GREEDY,
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #487
  • Jul 16, 2013 6:06am Jul 16, 2013 6:06am
the inside bars were good though lol
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  • #488
  • Jul 17, 2013 3:22am Jul 17, 2013 3:22am
For the record e/u 2/20 ema cross earlier today I was busted, It did make about 5 green pips but then went north.
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  • #489
  • Jul 17, 2013 4:55am Jul 17, 2013 4:55am
the thing is now, I am trying to trade the 2/20 ema just like my daughter would trade it lol. I know she re enters but I am thinking would she of just re entered when e/u hit 13130 or wait until the next hour candle starts providing it is below the 20 ema. I cannot believe I am trying to copy a 9 year old girl trader lol
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #490
  • Jul 17, 2013 4:56am Jul 17, 2013 4:56am
Mr T, hope your good bud
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  • #491
  • Jul 18, 2013 1:35am Jul 18, 2013 1:35am
a strange thing happened yesterday, I told you how I was busted on the 2/20 cross . well the 20 ema I used for the entry some how mysteriously altered so in fact I should not of entered the trade AND I have copies of the trade... Thing is 6 hours later I definitely would of been busted lol
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  • #492
  • Jul 20, 2013 1:30pm Jul 20, 2013 1:30pm
Quoting shahroor
It appears people are no longer interested in this strategy therefore I won't bother sharing any more updates on our system development. Many thanks for the ones who contributed to this thread. God bless you all.
Hello Shahroor,

Pls dont do this..I personally love you thread cos i love MAs system.Can you pls come back?PLS!PLS!!PLS!!!
  • #493
  • Jul 20, 2013 4:20pm Jul 20, 2013 4:20pm
Yeah, they do...
  • #494
  • Jul 21, 2013 2:17am Jul 21, 2013 2:17am
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9/18/30ema top chart is I hour,
F = long stretch of time and the 9/18/30 ema are well spread
C= when candle is moving down to 30 ema CHECK the 10 min

lower chart is 10 minute.
A = candle closed below 30 ema and an entry was made approx. 10 pips above the 1 hour ema hour candle.
I traded this for 10 pips I am almost certain but approx. 30 could be made.
a few hours earlier it looks like we had a couple of candles to trade but these were not trigger candles.
please note on the 19th we had a big drop at 02-00 uk time but we had no 10 min trigger, just as well it would of been busted lol, ask questions, be good
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  • #495
  • Jul 21, 2013 2:18am Jul 21, 2013 2:18am
1 extra chart lol
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  • #496
  • Jul 22, 2013 3:46am Jul 22, 2013 3:46am
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trying out my girls method lol... 2/20 ema hour chart
A = hour candle closed above 20 ema
B = entry
C = time gap of several hours with 2/20 ema being apart
D = that big drop concerns me, anyway lets see.
also we have a lovely outside bar on that trigger candle
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #497
  • Jul 22, 2013 4:30am Jul 22, 2013 4:30am
I'm getting a good 2-3R/week trading the (james16) base MA system. Mostly on 4H and works on various instruments when the conditions are right.

The trick is to only take trades where there is good confluence and PA. I use the 150 EMA, 25 EMA, 6 EMA and sometimes 365 EMA
Anything can happen.
  • #498
  • Jul 22, 2013 6:53am Jul 22, 2013 6:53am
If you ask "do you believe", i will say: YES. But the problem is: how to let the MA working properly?

My opinion:

1. What kind of MA we should use? SMA? EMA?Linear?
2. What period will be used in the MA?
3. Should we use single MA or multiple MA, such as Vegas?
4. How should we identify the signal of entering or exiting, providing by the MA?
5. Should we use same MA on different currency pairs, even different timeframe?

It really takes time to do research on those questions. For me, I dont like MA too much. I only use Vegas. I have got candlestick, bollinger band and Vegas in my system. But the MA is definitely powerful. So, if you like it, do more researches and get on to it.
  • #499
  • Jul 22, 2013 7:05am Jul 22, 2013 7:05am
obviously the post 496 didn't go to plan ie we didn't make lots of pips, but the low of the outside bar was honoured
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
  • #500
  • Jul 22, 2013 7:08am Jul 22, 2013 7:08am
Quoting ddinnov
I'm getting a good 2-3R/week trading the (james16) base MA system. Mostly on 4H and works on various instruments when the conditions are right. The trick is to only take trades where there is good confluence and PA. I use the 150 EMA, 25 EMA, 6 EMA and sometimes 365 EMA

that sounds good, trade the method if it is your style, your method is too much for me lol,. I am not being derogatory. it is on a par of going out and drinking pints of bitter compared to drinking cocktails, lol be good and good trading
SEE LINE,TRADE LINE..PRICE HAS TO GO SOMEWHERE,,, PRICE WILL GO SOMEWHERE.
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