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  • #941
  • Jul 2, 2013 8:08pm Jul 2, 2013 8:08pm
Any idea what to expect tomorow open ?
  • #942
  • Jul 2, 2013 8:43pm Jul 2, 2013 8:43pm
Quoting successlife
Any idea what to expect tomorow open ?
event driven scenarios. Overnight news out of Cairo. Tanks in the streets there will make traders nervous. Heavy US jobs data, ADP and unemployment claims, comes in just before the open. Good news on US employment? Will that bring the fear of QE pullback? I started leaning short when I heard more & more about Egypt, bought the SDS calls today when I saw the stock indices slipping. So I see a down day in the making, but hell anything can happen....
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  • #943
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:36am Jul 3, 2013 7:36am
Well, red flags in Europe and Asia with good reports in USA.
I still had open vertical spread in RUT and wants to close early today.
Only wait for lower open today.
will see..........
  • #944
  • Jul 3, 2013 8:07am Jul 3, 2013 8:07am
http://news.yahoo.com/egypts-mursi-d...010721364.html

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/03/news...sis/index.html

Egypt doesn't produce much oil, but controls the Suez canal, where much of Europe's oil supply travels every day. Watching events in Egypt and oil, will try to catch USO short on a pullback if/when things appear to cool down.
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  • #945
  • Edited 1:49pm Jul 3, 2013 9:43am | Edited 1:49pm
I close my short with +1.1 , I keep my Long looking for good report Friday or expire without value.

upgrade: call RUT 1000 - duplicate value, but I stay outside home and canīt close.
I need big move friday because big theta.-
  • #946
  • Jul 3, 2013 10:25am Jul 3, 2013 10:25am
Quoting The Fool
{quote} ...want to get in this spread, watching UNG, looks a little weak, might dip some more ... got in Oct UNG $21 call for $0.65 with UNG @ $18.82, will get the put sell done later
WEEKLY injection numbers out shortly, watching for a further dip in UNG, if the number is high. If no dip, will sell the put
leg of the spread. Looking at the Sep $17 for $0.41...
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  • #947
  • Jul 3, 2013 6:55pm Jul 3, 2013 6:55pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} Goldman finished lower today at $150.92, if the opportunity presents itself tomorrow i would like to purchase the $145 put for 7c or lower for fridays expiration. The option closed for 14c today GS Jul 2013 145.000 put (GS130705P00145000) -OPR 0.14 {image} 0.03(17.65%) 3:59PM EDT The Goldman Sachs Group, Inc. (GS) -NYSE 150.92 {image} 0.83(0.55%) 4:01PM EDT|After Hours : 151.04 {image} 0.12 (0.08%) 7:39PM EDT - Nasdaq Real Time Price
didn't bother with good ADP results
  • #948
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:02pm Jul 3, 2013 7:02pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} did not get a chance to get in as GDX $24 put as it opened for 20c, GDX opened today at 24.79 and closed at 23.75 increasing the $24 put quite a bit from yesterdays 14c close to a high of 71c closing today at 50c, as I couldn't get in I took the $22.50 put on GDX FOR 6C and it closed for 8c, i'm maintaing that position. I see further downside for GOLD GDX Jul 2013 22.500 put (GDX130705P00022500) -OPR 0.08 {image} 0.06(300.00%) 3:52PM EDT
GDX closed higher today at $24.18, my option is now worth 50% less at 3c so i decided to roll up to buy the $23.50 put strike for 11c just before the early close

GDX Jul 2013 23.500 put (GDX130705P00023500)
-OPR
0.11 http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/fi/03rd/down_r.gif 0.16(59.26%) 12:58PM EDT
  • #949
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:04pm Jul 3, 2013 7:04pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
STILL watching TLT below $110 its puts, higher tham 110.78 its calls
well TLT closed at $110.01 and i hesitated taking a put trade and missed the opportunity
  • #950
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:32pm Jul 3, 2013 7:32pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} WEEKLY injection numbers out shortly, watching for a further dip in UNG, if the number is high. If no dip, will sell the put leg of the spread. Looking at the Sep $17 for $0.41...
didn't get filled, will look for further UNG weakness to complete the spread.

10yr yield up on good US econ news, a good NFP will keep that ball rolling. I am not in TLT or TBT though. There's still time to play those for the Fall...
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  • #951
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:43pm Jul 3, 2013 7:43pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} GDX closed higher today at $24.18, my option is now worth 50% less at 3c so i decided to roll up to buy the $23.50 put strike for 11c just before the early close
weeklies out of the question now, never saw anything I liked. I'm on the other side of your miner puts, w/ Jul 20 NUGT $6 calls - should have sold them yesterday when NUGT hit $6.43, maybe I'll still get out with something. After all the end-of-quarter repositioning in gold/miner etf's I'm waiting to get a clue re: gold.
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  • #952
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:47pm Jul 3, 2013 7:47pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} didn't get filled, will look for further UNG weakness to complete the spread. 10yr yield up on good US econ news, a good NFP will keep that ball rolling. I am not in TLT or TBT though. There's still time to play those for the Fall...
with the holiday and NFP out a hour before reopening of markets on friday it looks ideal to catch people unaware, hence why i stayed in GDX and added
  • #953
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:56pm Jul 3, 2013 7:56pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} with the holiday and NFP out a hour before reopening of markets on friday it looks ideal to catch people unaware, hence why i stayed in GDX and added
yup volume is gonna be thin, a really deranged NFP number could really shake things up. I'm leaning good number - market slide
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  • #954
  • Jul 3, 2013 7:57pm Jul 3, 2013 7:57pm
T.F. IN THE MOST ACTIVE options someone has taking a big position on FXE $116 september puts, is the euro heading below 118 by september?
  • #955
  • Jul 3, 2013 8:06pm Jul 3, 2013 8:06pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
T.F. IN THE MOST ACTIVE options someone has taking a big position on FXE $116 september puts, is the euro heading below 118 by september?
That's a 12-1300 pip drop, tall order for a little over 2 months. FXE is going down though. If I had to guess I'd say somebody sold those on the bottom leg of a bear spread, but I don't see any other volume like that above it in near months.

Well, that is a bear spread worth looking at, though. E/U is gonna lose the battle at 1.30, really seems to me...
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  • #956
  • Jul 3, 2013 8:16pm Jul 3, 2013 8:16pm
Quoting The Fool
{quote} That's a 12-1300 pip drop, tall order for a little over 2 months. FXE is going down though. If I had to guess I'd say somebody sold those on the bottom leg of a bear spread, but I don't see any other volume like that above it in near months. Well, that is a bear spread worth looking at, though. E/U is gonna lose the battle at 1.30, really seems to me...
they may never hold to expiration and simply close once a closer target is hit
  • #957
  • Jul 3, 2013 8:39pm Jul 3, 2013 8:39pm
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} they may never hold to expiration and simply close once a closer target is hit
yep, could be, lots of possibilities. just was scratching around on FXE bear spreads, could sell the Aug 123 puts for $0.28 and buy Sep 121 for $0.38 for a $0.10 net debit. My accounts are too small though, so I'm very margin limited re: selling puts, not worth looking at when its a high priced item.

More news of sovereign debt trouble out of the EU may hasten E/U drop but I had thought there might be a Jackson Hole effect, too, so would maybe look at Dec '13 puts. (odd jump there Sep to Dec no Oct, Nov expiries - wtf?)
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  • #958
  • Jul 4, 2013 1:16am Jul 4, 2013 1:16am
HEY FOOL

and neighbor. Just found your thread. Will be following along. I used to trade options quite a bit on futures. Been thinking about getting back with it.
Illegitimi non carborundum - Noli pati a scelestis opprimi.
  • #959
  • Jul 4, 2013 1:53am Jul 4, 2013 1:53am
Quoting The Fool
{quote} yep, could be, lots of possibilities. just was scratching around on FXE bear spreads, could sell the Aug 123 puts for $0.28 and buy Sep 121 for $0.38 for a $0.10 net debit. My accounts are too small though, so I'm very margin limited re: selling puts, not worth looking at when its a high priced item. More news of sovereign debt trouble out of the EU may hasten E/U drop but I had thought there might be a Jackson Hole effect, too, so would maybe look at Dec '13 puts. (odd jump there Sep to Dec no Oct, Nov expiries - wtf?)...
they should be on your preferred brokers platform, yahoo is just a free sevice and reference point
  • #960
  • Jul 4, 2013 2:10am Jul 4, 2013 2:10am
Quoting Cecil Gee
{quote} they should be on your preferred brokers platform, yahoo is just a free sevice and reference point
nope not on the brokers' chains - you see Oct & Nov expiries on yours?
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