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  • #4,381
  • Jun 20, 2013 12:48pm Jun 20, 2013 12:48pm
Quoting vqtrader
BUYORSELL: Keep at man it will take some time but you will get there. You got bull price action and it closed a HL and the next expectation is NSH. So when you see this type of PA you should say is this meeting my expectation yes or no? If not get out that shit. ALL PATTERNS ARENOT TRADABLE!! Look at PA to guide your eyes Keep it up {image}
Hey someone who gets the expectation part! Awesome. Thanks for the helpful post. Cheers.
Finally out of the shadows.
  • #4,382
  • Edited 1:45pm Jun 22, 2013 9:25am | Edited 1:45pm
Quoting gaf
{quote} I give up. Believe what you want to believe. Best of luck. Cheers.
Thank you for admitting that Mr Pip has only shared his knowledge of 50% of his trading plan with a select few (actual explanations and implementation of projection, depth, and order flow in a trading plan). Therefore, I give up on his method. and no, i am not aiming this at you, its just general frustration.

Its deceptive, its wrong, its BS.. Just like many of the trading methods shared on this forum... good bye ...

My suggestion to anyone beginning: prepare to delve beyond what Mr. Pip has said in order to be profitable. But his method and his teachings are still excellent, even if they aren't totally revealed!!!

good luck everyone. this is my last post here ....

edit: heres all the posts i have collected, hopefully it will reduce the time needed to go through all the posts. mostly focused on mr pip, and includes all his trading sessions he posted (except i might have missed 2 in the very very beginning, idk, but its still good! study very well over and over again and you will begin to 'get' his trading method, at least some parts). Ive also included the onenote document in the zip file for those who are interested. enjoy!

edit 2: Sorry guys, missed out two important things in the below pdf. I think thats about it... The dcastfx youtube vids that mr pip has uploaded, definitely recommended! And the tick chart historical data post, for 2007 + tick data, from yours truly Re-uploaded to include that material....

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  • #4,383
  • Jun 24, 2013 5:12am Jun 24, 2013 5:12am
Hi Mr Pip,

We have Bat, butterfly, gartley, ABCD, Crab pattern references guide from you.
Could you please give us the pattern references guide for Cypher too?
  • #4,384
  • Jun 24, 2013 5:19am Jun 24, 2013 5:19am
Quoting gristar
Hi Mr Pip, We have Bat, butterfly, gartley, ABCD, Crab pattern references guide from you. Could you please give us the pattern references guide for Cypher too?
hi, go to page 51 post 1005 Mr Pips Cypher is there
  • #4,385
  • Jun 25, 2013 12:28am Jun 25, 2013 12:28am
Quoting gaf
{quote} Ahh sorry, I misunderstood. Try posts 159 onward particularly 163 and 165 as this is where Mr. Pip explains how we create a conditional thought process for the patterns as they are forming. I'm sure you can tweak it for whatever patterns you want to add. Hope this helps. Cheers.
Hi Gaf,

tnxs
choose a job you love and you will never have to work a day in your life
  • #4,386
  • Jun 25, 2013 1:28am Jun 25, 2013 1:28am
Quoting buyorsell
{quote} hi, go to page 51 post 1005 Mr Pips Cypher is there
Thank you. I have gone through all the post but missed that..
  • #4,387
  • Jun 30, 2013 7:07pm Jun 30, 2013 7:07pm
I haven't seen Mr. Pip post for weeks now. It appears he has other things on his mind beyond teaching freely as he talked about in the beginning of this thread. He has certainly left the thread for others to offer their opinions, indicators and styles on their variations of Harmonics. My question is, Is he gone for good or just watching and going to show up again in the future?
  • #4,388
  • Jul 1, 2013 7:47am Jul 1, 2013 7:47am
Sossos,
Life got in the way just as life does. He had to prioritize. I am sure as things settle he should return. Things did take turn from his teachings but you have everything you need right here. Please read and internalize it as it could change how you view trading. EVERYTHING you need is right here. Even if he does not return this will change how you view trading. Peace.
Empower Your Mind
  • #4,389
  • Jul 2, 2013 8:48am Jul 2, 2013 8:48am
Quoting Sossos
I haven't seen Mr. Pip post for weeks now. It appears he has other things on his mind beyond teaching freely as he talked about in the beginning of this thread. He has certainly left the thread for others to offer their opinions, indicators and styles on their variations of Harmonics. My question is, Is he gone for good or just watching and going to show up again in the future?
As vqtrader mentioned above, everything is here to make you a great trader. Forget patterns, focus on the PA aspects that have been mentioned throughout the thread. They are: Structure, S/R, Projection, Depth, Momentum, PA, and lastly Patterns. Study the charts to find out what each of these mean and what we can expect when they happen.

Why would a person who studied all this and put the work into it over the years babysit us when we whine that its incomplete? We should do our own work, stand on our own two feet and be happy that someone has revealed the truth about the market to us. It may take us a year or so to flesh out the rest but how serious are we about becoming professional traders? I'm surprised Mr. Pip stayed as long as he did. It takes an enormous amount of time to construct thoughtful correct replies and teach people what he now does intuitively. Its all here we just have to do the work. Cheers.
Finally out of the shadows.
  • #4,390
  • Jul 3, 2013 10:25am Jul 3, 2013 10:25am
Gaf,
Lets link up to decrease our learning curve. email me [email protected]
Empower Your Mind
  • #4,391
  • Jul 5, 2013 6:18pm Jul 5, 2013 6:18pm
Quoting gaf
{quote} I give up. Believe what you want to believe. Best of luck. Cheers.

Most will stay in the shadows
  • #4,392
  • Jul 6, 2013 10:21am Jul 6, 2013 10:21am
Very good this topic .. standards also deal with Harmonics! success
Sandovaljr
  • #4,393
  • Jul 9, 2013 7:54am Jul 9, 2013 7:54am
a great course! thanks mr pip
Trading in the zone
  • #4,394
  • Jul 20, 2013 1:05am Jul 20, 2013 1:05am
The cypher pattern is the biggest joke ever. It was released as a marketing tactic and something to "sell". They did a ton of marketing on it and people just accepted it because they would show you examples of it working out. But NOBODY, nobody has actual stats on it and even emailing them more than 3 times they didn't return my emails.

What a joke. People need to do their home work and if you disagree with me, show me ACTUAL numbers and statistics over a 1 year period. Heck, I'll take 6 months.
  • #4,395
  • Jul 20, 2013 1:48am Jul 20, 2013 1:48am
everyone has to do their homework before going live into the market. for me it works for you it dont. we choose individually what when and why to trade. im trading cypher on H1 since jan 2013 and have 65% accuracy so far
  • #4,396
  • Jul 20, 2013 4:22am Jul 20, 2013 4:22am
@colened65 - I agree with you. Jason is a marketer first. That is the one problem with this industry is that it is full of "claims".

@buyorsell - You just made one of these "claims" with nothing to back it up.
  • #4,397
  • Jul 20, 2013 4:34am Jul 20, 2013 4:34am
Quoting snowmantum
@colened65 - I agree with you. Jason is a marketer first. That is the one problem with this industry is that it is full of "claims". @buyorsell - You just made one of these "claims" with nothing to back it up.

I see numbers in my account i dont need to proove anything for others ;-) have a nice weekend guys
  • #4,398
  • Jul 21, 2013 8:27am Jul 21, 2013 8:27am
everyone's opinions in this subject is to learn.
appreciate!
Trading in the zone
  • #4,399
  • Jul 21, 2013 8:34am Jul 21, 2013 8:34am
Quoting colened65
The cypher pattern is the biggest joke ever. It was released as a marketing tactic and something to "sell". They did a ton of marketing on it and people just accepted it because they would show you examples of it working out. But NOBODY, nobody has actual stats on it and even emailing them more than 3 times they didn't return my emails. What a joke. People need to do their home work and if you disagree with me, show me ACTUAL numbers and statistics over a 1 year period. Heck, I'll take 6 months.
The Cypher pattern is like any other pattern. Comments like this is why trying to teach is so difficult. Why don't you do your own work and post examples of it failing? Perhaps you state failure because you do not know how to trade these patterns. Inexperienced traders are very quick to point out how this doesn't work and how you need to add this indicator or use a different this or that. This is the reason why the few that really have gained some level of trading competence and are willing to share this with you and others never stick around. It is exhausting to sit and devote unselfish time to the masses and have to work so hard to get people to just listen and practice.

There is a huge failure rate in this business but if you are unable to listen and practice you will forever remain in the shadows. If you or other are willing to get back to basics, I will come back to continue, otherwise I feel no reason to continue because my time is very valuable and I will not waste it!
If you fail to plan, you plan to fail.
  • #4,400
  • Jul 21, 2013 11:54am Jul 21, 2013 11:54am
Quoting Mr. Pip
{quote} The Cypher pattern is like any other pattern. Comments like this is why trying to teach is so difficult. Why don't you do your own work and post examples of it failing? Perhaps you state failure because you do not know how to trade these patterns. Inexperienced traders are very quick to point out how this doesn't work and how you need to add this indicator or use a different this or that. This is the reason why the few that really have gained some level of trading competence and are willing to share this with you and others never stick around....
Mr. Pip,
I have seen this happen on so many other threads. A trader has a winning strategy, starts a thread and shares their vast knowledge freely. Then a series of idiots come in and blast the trader to pieces, so they leave. Why waste your effort? I just began a hunt to learn Harmonics and was saddened to see this had happened to you as well. Seems the world is rife with mindless ding-a-lings......hope you can help me in my quest. Thank You, Sir for your selfless effort.
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