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  • #101
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:27am Jun 19, 2013 3:27am
Hi Erebus,
I'm testing the EA since the beginning of last week and I got nice returns.
Today I looked at the log and found this recurring message:

00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:02 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:02 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:02 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:02 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:03 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD AUDJPY,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:03 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD AUDJPY,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:03 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD CADJPY,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:03 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD CADJPY,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array
00:00:04 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array

do you have any idea?

thanks.
  • #102
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:29am Jun 19, 2013 3:29am
Quoting DotMag
Hi Erebus, I'm testing the EA since the beginning of last week and I got nice returns. Today I looked at the log and found this recurring message: 00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray...
Not sure about that, we will have to refer any EA coding problems to TCO

But have you downloaded the latest version from Post #1?

It was only put up on Monday I believe, that will surely help you!

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #103
  • Jun 19, 2013 3:57am Jun 19, 2013 3:57am
Quoting Erebus
{quote} Not sure about that, we will have to refer any EA coding problems to TCO But have you downloaded the latest version from Post #1? It was only put up on Monday I believe, that will surely help you!
No not yet, I have the version from the 100pips thread.
I try with this one.

Thanks a lot
  • #104
  • Jun 19, 2013 4:07am Jun 19, 2013 4:07am
Quoting Erebus
{quote} Not sure about that, we will have to refer any EA coding problems to TCO But have you downloaded the latest version from Post #1? It was only put up on Monday I believe, that will surely help you!
Now it's OK!
  • #105
  • Jun 19, 2013 11:10pm Jun 19, 2013 11:10pm
Quoting Erebus
{quote} Not sure about that, we will have to refer any EA coding problems to TCO But have you downloaded the latest version from Post #1? It was only put up on Monday I believe, that will surely help you!
Hi Erebus, I went thru the 1st post in this forum here (not 20-50ema, 3ss forum just so both of us, or at least me, is on the right space). I found a lot of your self-made or TCO self-made indicators, but no EA? (Am I confused again)?

BTW: I noticed that nobody mentioned testing either 3ss or 20-50ema on chf crosses, such as audchf, cadchf, etc. Any info would be much appreciated

PS: Got beaten to almost pancake with a lost of 481pips and $252 profits by a few 3ss trades that went to sl, the usual call of suspects were the jpy pairs, such was audjpy, ej, and uj. 20-50ema is up entire acct abt 2000pips whilst 3ss is in the do-dums, INTERESTING!

Although 100pips caution me against using 20-50ema for live trade, so far my live trade for Gold (I only used 20-50ema on gold) was 100% hit. In my demo, this ea hit 6/6 gold trades all went tp=320 and i set a conservative 160pips for this pair, whilst this pair is typically can move like 600-900pips. Somehow this pair remains a good "dance" partner coupled with 20-50ema. In my 3ss demo, gold did not even survived, all FOUR trades went belly-up. The highest floating dd that gold went to with 20-50ema was abt 80pips, and it does take abt 2days to "develop" once it does, ka-ching ka-ching, my gold trade had just jump another 10pips by 1hr, and overnite from yesterday it went to 207, its now abt 224 as I wrote this post.

3ss can either take away like 500+pips in 1-2 days of trading or add like 500-1500pips in abt 7 days of trading, hmmmp....patience....patience....patience. I have taken off all 3ss in my live acct and let it remain on demo for stats collection and monitoring purposes. Meanwhile I am using 20-50ema to trade manually.
Pls let me know the TCO_20_50_ema links and if theres anyone with stats on chf pairs using 3ss to automate the trades.

WARNING: Those of u interested in this 20-50ema, can go download it and use it on Gold and PLEEZEE PLEEZEEE PLEEZEE placed on demo until almost the cows come home or until u are SURE SURE SURE its performing well (even though I had started live with it).


PPS: Thanks and thanks and thanks both to Erebus, 100pips who have been very very very helpful and unselfish to devoting time, patience and eye sight to read and answer all my queries
  • #106
  • Jun 20, 2013 9:14am Jun 20, 2013 9:14am
Can someone please help me?

I installed the 3SS EA on my server last night. I put it on following 5 charts:

AUD/JPY, CAD/JPY, EUR/AUD, GBP/AUD and NZD/USD

Now this is how it works, as far as I understand:

Daily Chart
MACD must be be uptrend, bars should be blue, right?
Hourly
%W must be OS

If this is true when I installed the EA last night, it keeps buying AUD/JPY. How come?

On the daily it clearly shows downtrend, and the lines didn't really cross yet.

I think I am making a mistake on how to read it, can someone help me and explain? Many Thanks.
Faith ends where worry begins, and worry ends where faith begins.
  • #107
  • Jun 20, 2013 9:42am Jun 20, 2013 9:42am
Hi FOREXVEGAN, I love your tag name...!!! You are right in your description of the 3SS, well done for installing the EA too,

The EA will be looking for BUY signals in the scenario that you have described, and will enter multiple trades , the settings should, however, limit the amount to 1 every 6 hours (?) depends on your settings of course, this is worth checking out, I am sure EREBUS will give much more help than I can..

Just would like to advise you to get to know how to make a MANUAL trade, so that your skills are honed on this great and valid strategy....

now that things have settled down a bit, you should see some great results

Trade well.........my SOCCER team have made it to the World cup finals in BRAZIL..!! yippee....!!
Onwards and upwards...
  • #108
  • Jun 20, 2013 10:22am Jun 20, 2013 10:22am
Thank you soccer fan for your reply and congrats, your team will win!!! My question still remains, why did the EA open a BUY for AUD.JPY when it is clearly a SELL? Anyone know why?
Faith ends where worry begins, and worry ends where faith begins.
  • #109
  • Jun 20, 2013 1:30pm Jun 20, 2013 1:30pm
Quoting forexvegan
Thank you soccer fan for your reply and congrats, your team will win!!! My question still remains, why did the EA open a BUY for AUD.JPY when it is clearly a SELL? Anyone know why?

Ask Khaled, the programmer of the EA. Better yet : Send him a check of $100 and he will repair the bugs in the EA.
Or ask mr. 100Pips, the owner of the Thirdscreen strategy thread.

Guys, it is time to wake up. I got banned from there because I dared to ask the same question yesterday .
Mr 100Pips aroused in anger and decided that was my last day on his thread. Too much criticism will not be tolerated over there. Besides, the guy hardly knows the difference between an indicator and an EA. Too bad for you all, but who cares. Doesn't the system deliver 1000's of pips ??

Also I dared to predict that today, NZDJPY would end with a red macd. I invite you all to inspect your daily D1 MACD chart of NZDJPY and to inform mr. 100Pips of your conclusions.
  • #110
  • Jun 20, 2013 2:05pm Jun 20, 2013 2:05pm
Forex vegan, I hope you tested on demo first. I tried the ea on demo a few weeks ago and had a couple trades go different direction then expected.

I took a break but when I restart I will wait for crossover and verify weekly trend before activating ea. this method will stay demo for me until it is making profit for me.
  • #111
  • Jun 20, 2013 9:17pm Jun 20, 2013 9:17pm
Quoting forexvegan
Thank you soccer fan for your reply and congrats, your team will win!!! My question still remains, why did the EA open a BUY for AUD.JPY when it is clearly a SELL? Anyone know why?
Because the EA takes the data it uses to determine trend from the MACD3SS indicator and not from the macd_adjustable indicator. If you apply MACD3SS to the GBPNZD D1 you will see something like: MACD(12,24,9) 0.02768 0.02784. The first number represents the MACD histogram and the 2nd number represents the MACD signal line. The EA will report a down trend (triangle) if the histogram is lower than the signal line. Which in the case of GBPNZD it is. The reverse is true for up trends. Meanwhile the macd_adjustable indicator is showing a blue histogram. However the MACD histogram is not the same as the histogram on the macd_adjustable. The MACD histogram is represented (in outline) by the blue line on the macd_adjustable indicator.

In cases where there is a big gap between macd and signal line then both indicators will show the same trend sentiment. When it is very close (as it is currently with GBPNZD) then you may see a discrepancy.

It's not a bug in the EA, you are just not looking at the same data source that it is. At least that is my analysis without seeing the EA source code.
  • #112
  • Jun 21, 2013 3:47am Jun 21, 2013 3:47am
I don't understand why I was banned from the thread?

I was posting my analysis of pairs and trying to learn. I thought the thread was for learning?
  • #113
  • Jun 21, 2013 5:53am Jun 21, 2013 5:53am
I guess I'll just use this thread then?

What do you guys think of the daily candles forming on the JPY pairs?

It looks like there is a level of resistance that may cause it to reverse back into a downtrend?

I guess we'll have to see how this daily candle plays out. If it forms a spinning top or a shooting star, should we disable the EA and assume a reversal back to the downtrend? Or do you think it will just end up continuing in an uptrend?

Chart:

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  • #114
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:01am Jun 21, 2013 7:01am
Quoting Tok
I guess I'll just use this thread then? What do you guys think of the daily candles forming on the JPY pairs? It looks like there is a level of resistance that may cause it to reverse back into a downtrend? I guess we'll have to see how this daily candle plays out. If it forms a spinning top or a shooting star, should we disable the EA and assume a reversal back to the downtrend? Or do you think it will just end up continuing in an uptrend? Chart: {image}
You need to choose if you are :

Mechanical trader

Candle pattern trader

Discretionary trader

Seems like you are torn between following the rules of proven methods and what you see on the charts, and not trusting either

Believe me, there is no way of knowing, and asking us what we "think" is NOT a trading system

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #115
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:04am Jun 21, 2013 7:04am
Quoting Erebus
{quote} You need to choose if you are : Mechanical trader Candle pattern trader Discretionary trader Seems like you are torn between following the rules of proven methods and what you see on the charts, and not trusting either Believe me, there is no way of knowing, and asking us what we "think" is NOT a trading system
100pips stated that you MUST use PASR.

And as I've learned, and as he has obviously, if you do not use PASR with the third screen strategy, you're going to have HUGE drawdowns and will ruin profits.

PASR will tell us what is going to happen before MACD shows us.

Make no mistake, this is part of the strategy and it is a necessary one.
  • #116
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:27am Jun 21, 2013 7:27am
Quoting manicminer
{quote} Because the EA takes the data it uses to determine trend from the MACD3SS indicator and not from the macd_adjustable indicator. If you apply MACD3SS to the GBPNZD D1 you will see something like: MACD(12,24,9) 0.02768 0.02784. The first number represents the MACD histogram and the 2nd number represents the MACD signal line. The EA will report a down trend (triangle) if the histogram is lower than the signal line. Which in the case of GBPNZD it is. The reverse is true for up trends. Meanwhile the macd_adjustable indicator is showing a blue...

It is not a bug in the sense that the EA would not be functioning anymore.
It is a bug in the category : "Garbage in, Garbage out". In other words : If you feed the EA with rubbish, it will produce rubbish and that is exactly what is happening.

I had a useless discussion about this with 100Pips, but he stubbornly refused to improve the indicator under the adagio: It works and I made profits, so why should I change something ? His choice of course !
The problem is however recurring all the time and you see people come up on the forum, asking the same questions over and over why the EA is not working correctly and inconsistent.

It reminds me of a guy I once met on the road. Pointing to his car I remarked he had a flat tyre. Angrily he responded : This is a fine car and it has brought me from San Fransisco to Sacramento already a hundred times in this condition !
What else could I say to convince him that there was actually something wrong ?
  • #117
  • Jun 21, 2013 7:57am Jun 21, 2013 7:57am
Quoting Tok
{quote} 100pips stated that you MUST use PASR. And as I've learned, and as he has obviously, if you do not use PASR with the third screen strategy, you're going to have HUGE drawdowns and will ruin profits. PASR will tell us what is going to happen before MACD shows us. Make no mistake, this is part of the strategy and it is a necessary one.
OK, fair enough, but primarily it is a mechanical method using 2 simple parameters to trigger a trade: on Daily chart, MACD is red or blue, on 1 Hour chart, W%R is either -20 or -80, agree?

So, first look to the EA - is there a signal to enter a trade? Your example is USD-JPY, and MACD is still red, so when W%R is above -20, there is sell signal.

Now you ask about PASR, is there resistance, will down trend continue, should we disable the EA ???

Why disable the EA when the signal will be to sell anyway? This is in line with your resistance and candle pattern analysis, so you lost me there

If I am completely off track, please explain, make it real clear, because I can't figure out how you want to trade.

I mean, if it is that ambiguous, move on to another pair that has the trend, has the pullback, has the clear signal; it has worked for him so far.

I don't think 100_pips means to use PASR for every trade, only when there are clear topping or bottoming conditions happening is my take on it.

It takes a lot for me to IGNORE you, but you can try.
  • #118
  • Jun 21, 2013 8:08am Jun 21, 2013 8:08am
Quoting jasper2603
Look, Arrow is green in up right corner, but macd is red? {image}
Hello,
Ref. post#84 made by Jasper2603, I see my chart like attached image. I didn't see any red histogram of MACD for previous 10 days, and I find the EA showing arrow according the MACD histogram. I really don't know where is the wrong with jasper. Moreover I see some difference with my chart and Jasper's chart. 1st chart is mine and second one is Jasper's. Can any one help me with this issue. I am getting several PMs regarding this type of problem.

Thanks to all.

Regards.
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  • #119
  • Jun 21, 2013 8:12am Jun 21, 2013 8:12am
Quoting DotMag
Hi Erebus, I'm testing the EA since the beginning of last week and I got nice returns. Today I looked at the log and found this recurring message: 00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:00 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD GBPAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray indicator must be an array 00:00:01 Third Screen Strategy - D1 MACD EURAUD,H1: first parameter for iMAOnArray...
Hi DotMag,
You are not using correct version of the EA. I requested to all about this in the original thread.Erebus can help you to get the correct version of EA.

Thanks.
KISS - Keep It Simple Smart !!!!
  • #120
  • Jun 21, 2013 8:22am Jun 21, 2013 8:22am
Please have a look, candle pattern of both charts. I am very confused about it. Can any one please help me?
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