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Quoting Jayf19
It's over, it only took this monster 7 trades to get there. Rare occurrence, but price never stays stuck within a range forever.
The same chart that gave you 1 very large CZ and a black swan trade set gave me 2 very manageable CZ's, each with 1+1 trade sets.
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To improve is to change. To perfect, is to change often.
as i promised:
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Listen to the Moneytalks
Quoting forexhard
{quote} The same chart that gave you 1 very large CZ and a black swan trade set gave me 2 very manageable CZ's, each with 1+1 trade sets. {image}
Yup; I was simply illustrating that that all CZ's will eventually resolve into a decisive breakout one way or the other. That and the settings that you are using do not match with my personal MM plan.
Now you've lost me. Our MM settings are identical. It's our entry filters that are different: You're using Candle Close, and I'm using EMA3. What am I missing then?...
To improve is to change. To perfect, is to change often.
check out the daily for cable you will see its in the middle of the last range

in other news eurusd paid out nicely....
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Quoting forexhard
Now you've lost me. Our MM settings are identical. It's our entry filters that are different: You're using Candle Close, and I'm using EMA3. What am I missing then?...
Our equity/risk leverage are different. I am not currently able to sustain up to a 4th recovery trade using MGale x2.
Quoting forexhard
{quote} The same chart that gave you 1 very large CZ and a black swan trade set gave me 2 very manageable CZ's, each with 1+1 trade sets. {image}

first loss in 6 months
live alapri uk

no last indicator
prior to the last indicator my indicator its different
i cant find the superlast indicator with autoptimize

i ubderstand its only for captain

so want to be rewarded the autoptimize indicator.....


loss U$286

today i m in profit

FHard I am very happy with the indicator and very grateful to Fhard

sorry if my English is not very clear
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excuseme, may i in forum ??
i have more time to try lesson forex, i started from 2008 but just third time i have beentry with live trader but no one i got profit but just get bankrut...and now i just try with demo trader... i afraid if i try with live i will bankrut...so i need your all master in this forum, you'r have many experience..socan you'r help me ??
Hi Hektor,

in short: Read the thread. The first posts contain nearly 90% of what you need to know. Draw your CZ boxes manually. Get the feel for them for some weeks. Than you can use the indi to ease the drawing but read carefully on how to set the parameters within and don't focus on the gained pip value...

Take your time and be patient....
just look at those trades !!!! OMG !

thats is exactly what I am talking about, no one should try to "chase" the market, you should wait for it to come to you !!!
(and they say novice to me lol!) 6 recovery trades ? Jesus save me !

coz market can chop you much more you can stand or take anytime.... and martingale it is gambling strategy, for me just setups with BO +80-90 ar OK (with good MM-RR) and is far best without use of gambling strategy, coz martingale can take you in deepest hole you never imagine it exist !!!!
maximum recovery should be 1 and if that is > 80, your setup is still OK ! and if it lost, just take it and go on !

cheers
argon
Quoting hektor
i have more time to try lesson forex, i started from 2008 but just third time i have beentry with live trader but no one i got profit but just get bankrut...and now i just try with demo trader... i afraid if i try with live i will bankrut...so i need your all master in this forum, you'r have many experience..socan you'r help me ??


commercial member ???? are you broker or you are working for ????
Quoting argon
just look at those trades !!!! OMG ! thats is exactly what I am talking about, no one should try to "chase" the market, you should wait for it to come to you !!! (and they say novice to me lol!) 6 recovery trades ? Jesus save me ! coz market can chop you much more you can stand or take anytime.... and martingale it is gambling strategy, for me just setups with BO +80-90 ar OK (with good MM-RR) and is far best without use of gambling strategy, coz martingale can take you in deepest hole you never imagine it exist !!!! maximum recovery should be...
Argon, thank God this thread is in the recycle bin now, the amount of bullshit you write without contributing anything useful to the system is unbelievable.

Keep chasing those Masons you hate, and keep the tin foil hat on.
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Argon, thank God this thread is in the recycle bin now, the amount of bullshit you write without contributing anything useful to the system is unbelievable. Keep chasing those Masons you hate, and keep the tin foil hat on.


read about martingale strategy you novice, shallow moron! where was invented and when n why ! so we have here re-invented the hot water ?
do you know who is the owner of federal reserve, fort knox, world bank, IMF etc, and that all world market trading in dollars is just a coincidence ?

you are so shallow guy !

ps/better to have 2-3 trades /weekly and +30-40 pips then 7 recovery trades in 1 trade (madness), that's gambling not trading (coz next time you might need maybe 8-9 recovery trades ..lol), you shallow moron!
Argon if I may, I think ( if I understood it right ) :

FH showed you how to find trading opportunities. The hard part in most strategies is dealing with ranging/consolidating markets, with SSBO we LOVE them. They are easy to spot, but difficult for a trend trader to forecast !

If you know when to open a trade, the only thing you need to do is manage it.
You can do this with martingale, without martingale, using 1 single position, using mutiple positions and take profit along the way. what ever you do you need to find a Money Management that suits you

For example for the moment I use 1 single position with 2 recovery trades ( so max 3 trades per box, after that R:R is not good enough ) and Martingale.
Most of the time I will win, but like you said there is always a moment that 2 recovery trades is not enough and than I'll lose. But that doesn't matter because I earned enough with the winners to still be in profit. I understand it can hurt when you lose a bigger portion at once, but you have to look at the whole picture, the longer term. Did I progress or not ?

Hope this helps

Happy trading
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
Quoting argon
{quote} read about martingale strategy you novice, shallow moron! where was invented and when n why ! so we have here re-invented the hot water ? do you know who is the owner of federal reserve, fort knox, world bank, IMF etc, and that all world market trading in dollars is just a coincidence ? you are so shallow guy ! ps/better to have 2-3 trades /weekly and +30-40 pips then 7 recovery trades in 1 trade (madness), that's gambling not trading (coz next time you might need maybe 8-9 recovery trades ..lol), you shallow moron!
read the whole thread, read about the use of martingale, then come back to me, dickhead. Nobody has advocated martingale on 7 trades in a row.

You keep talking about who owns the fed, the masons, etc etc you're completely missing the point of this trading system.

Sedona said Argon is an inert gas, but I feel you are a more of a noxious gas, therefore I rename you: fart - because everything you say smells of shit.
Quoting Armacom
Argon if I may, I think ( if I understood it right ) : FH showed you how to find trading opportunities. The hard part in most strategies is dealing with ranging/consolidating markets, with SSBO we LOVE them. They are easy to spot, but difficult for a trend trader to forecast ! If you know when to open a trade, the only thing you need to do is manage it. You can do this with martingale, without martingale, using 1 single position, using mutiple positions and take profit along the way. what ever you do you need to find a Money Management that suits...

hi Armacom

what I have said I was thinking that way precisely ,(I am doing that way) you must find setups which have first two trades >80-90 %(good MM_RR) and then trade,if it good OK if it has failed, go further, dont burn your self with martingale and dont trade at any cost, dont chase the market !!! set up a good "trap" and wait for the "fox"
dont burn your account in one trade OK ?

but you can do as you will !!!

kind regards
argon
ps/ thanks again to FH and all members of the team and good bless them again, and let them all be a millionaires !
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} read the whole thread, read about the use of martingale, then come back to me, dickhead. Nobody has advocated martingale on 7 trades in a row. You keep talking about who owns the fed, the masons, etc etc you're completely missing the point of this trading system. Sedona said Argon is an inert gas, but I feel you are a more of a noxious gas, therefore I rename you: fart - because everything you say smells of shit.

shallow guy full of shit ! and real asshole !

and wount bother to answer you any more !
The trick is finding something that suits you

Do the 100 days forward test, with the smallest live lots and you will see everything much clearer

Happy trading to all and let's not fight please !
Don’t ever let someone tell you that you can’t do something.
Quoting Armacom
The trick is finding something that suits you Do the 100 days forward test, with the smallest live lots and you will see everything much clearer Happy trading to all and let's not fight please !

I don't argue with kind people, and thanks for advice

and what I can even accept is maximum of 3 level trade,( the 3th level must be above 90_100 % too but I am trying to trade only first trade, so 1 trade setup on few instruments, they cant fail all the same day, if all setups are above 80-90%) all after that I see as a pure gambling and hope that market will move where you want, but in reality doesn't work that way, market is very controlled place my friend and price is driven intentionally 95% of the times ! so set up the "trap and wait for the fox" !
I have special software which I could do real back tests in months and years back and when the setup is good in so long time, go for it !
and I am doing forward test as well ! and I find cent accounts worthless, coz you will use to trade and think small and then when real trade comes with hundreds and thousands of dollars you will get an infarct, but if you can imagine that figures on you screen are real money (even when is "real account" the figures are the same, just in your head is not the same,)' and that is the problem , one must see forex as strategic game to make money of it! thats my point!

and right, find strategy which suits you personality (of endless possibilities this system and indi are giving) and trade, execute trade with no emotions, just as an EA !
happy trading to you as well and many green pips - $$$$

kind regards
argon
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