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I wish we could get CP to post in here more often. All we are left with are his older posts. I will have to read his posts for a third time now.

In order to be fully understood from the start : I want to share this with only few people. So ... the places in the group will be limited, in order to keep the secret to a small number of people.

I will NOT sell anything (signals, memberships, etc), this will be free information!

In addition to the very few people in the group, we will hopefully have some of the old members here on FF (when I say old I mean the contribution they brought along by useful threads or insights, e.g. redlion being just one of the many).

As CP decided not to publicly disclose the info, the people that will come to the group will have to say at very beginning what they understood / what is their point of view on CP's hints. You don't have to be right or close. I just want to see people thinking and not just coming to take from the others!

Also, the interested ones, please reply to me by PM so we don't cloud the thread.

Thanks and let's get on with it

I do not know what you are up to guys, but i want to say something.
there is no secret.
the thing(s) that you are refering to as a "secret" is something you already know about but never paid attention to.

and what is it??

everyone will find it out by himself. it can not be passed from person to person, otherwise the whole meaning will be lost and it does not work this way.
that is my understanding.

as many areas in life, you do not know until you live it. maybe it's something that is constantly repeated, we got in front and do not see it, I wonder what could be, but also I already intuit

The secret has nothing to do with what you know or others know.

It has everything to do with what you DO with what you know.

The question is; Do you actually know what you know?

Hi Pipalicious,
do you mind giving more explanation what you are trying to say?
Thanks.

A lot of people know technical analysis, volume analysis, etc. but they dont truly know what to DO with it.

Lets face it, greatness is not achieved by following the same carved out path. People have to carve their own paths, even though it is using essentially the same tools.

Give a saw to a master carpenter and he will do wonders with it.
Give a saw to a child and watch the damage he will inflict on himself.

It is the same tool, yet one knows what to DO with it, meanwhile the other doesnt.

With this im not saying technical, volume or any type of analysis is superior to any other.

All im saying is that a lot of the info is there for people to see, but it comes down to what <<YOU DO>> with such info.

makes a LOT sense.
at the same time, this means that there is no "one" secret, system, method whatever people call it. everyone has his own "thing" which is only unique to him. and this "thing" is not unknown, it is just hidden somewhere deeper inside you, it is there. the question is can you find it? and this quest involves lots of hard work and better understanding of thyself.

Fore sure, I am in. My understanding is that CP is pointing at a ratio between money's in-flow as well as out-flow.

If any of you have any idea of what we should be using better than Skype, as we need to post pictures and stuff for everyone to see live, please give me your opinions by PM.

This is the first time I try using a group conversation so I need some help with this... technology not my strong feature

[quote=tashkent;6676974]{quote} makes a LOT sense. at the same time, this means that there is no "one" secret, system, method whatever people call it. everyone has his own "thing" which is only unique to him. and this "thing" is not unknown, it is just hidden somewhere deeper inside you, it is there. the question is can you find it? and this quest involves lots of hard work and better understanding of thyself.[/QUO

Hello Tashkent! So...there is no secret...no there isn't indeed.

Did you found out what CP is talking about? Have you seen the 'things' that we all know but do not pay attention to? What does this (Pi video in the 1st post) have to do with trading?

Peace

Maybe you are right, but untill you will find what you are not seeing, it will be very close to a secret

To get this thread moving again, I wanted to let people know my setup. As CP suggested we have two hemispheres: buy or sell.

I use a 1 minute chart with 60MA (measuring 1 HOUR average) and 240MA (measuring 4 HOUR average).

When the 60 crosses the 240 upwards, I look to buy -- preferably at pullbacks. And vice-versa for sells.

Anyone else doing something similar?

[quote=emiliand;6678874]
hi.
despite CP has stated that he is not here teach others about his method, system, way or "secret", it is obvious that he has intention of sharing something which may help other open their eyes, thinking out of the box and become a better trader. that is why all these posts are general, nothing specific. however there are clues what someone has to pay attention to. even if one day i find out that he is an average trader, i will not be disappointed, because i learned a few things from him and that suffice to be grateful. and yes, i did see "things" which I was neglecting or misunderstanding. although there is no point at all mentioning me about them since they makes sense only to ME.
about PI. let me say this: it may have direct and indirect, scientific-mathematical-physical and philosophical reference to the trading. what i was able to comprehend from Pi example is that this number is irrational and infinite, where each sequence is unique with limitless combinations.
the very definition of the Pi tells a lot about trading. each price movement presents infinite variations of where it is heading to. lets say price moved up, then you have two options - up or down (even three if to imagine price just stalled), each of them having two options more etc. the same applicable if price moved down. so in a way it is chaotic and infinite. let me remind me something from Greek mythology "in the beginning there was Chaos...". The Order appeared from this Chaos, as everything else. The question is do you see the order within this chaos, do you see the "limit" of the infinity? to what extend can you exploit the infinity of these options in trading?

"In the beginning there was Chaos,
And within this Chaos was Power,
Great Power without Form.
Yet within Chaos there was Motion,
And within Motion was Form,
And within this Motion were the Words,
Which shaped the Motion, and gave it Form.
And the Great Speakers were awakened,
And the Great Words were spoken,
And the Great Magick was wrought,
The Birth of the World.
And in the Image of the Great Speakers were we awakened,
And in the Image of the Great Words have we spoken,
And in the image of the Great Magick have we wrought our world.
As it is said, so shall it be done."

let me also put it this way: take Mandelbrot set and its geometric image, it is chaaXa=a2otic and infinite, however when you look deeper and zoom in millions of times you will see extremely ordered images and extraordinary geometrically symmetric shapes. despite all these infinite constructs each of them has a constant which repeats itself infinitely.
i can go on and on but do not want to waste the space with my bs.
also i am not sure what CP means when he talks about a elegant equation, or mathematical formula. but i assume, it is more of something like e=mc2 rather than a pure matematical formula

Ok what do we know about CP trading.

- I think he knows WHERE to trade and not WHEN to trade. He told us that he cant predict the future and that time based analyse is not ok.

- He use some matematical forumula to calulate XXXX. He use standard deviatons from this XXXX. (He told us that SD are his bread and butter)

- He has some selfmade indicators to show him money influx - is the money going in or out of currency.

- What could E=mc2 told us about; E is energy, m is mass, and c is the speed of light; could this be volume of trade and frequency of trades...

I hope Emiliand will soon begin his chat till then there is already a skype room with Magic trader as a start up moderator, his nick name daniel5678
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speed_of_light)

I think he didn't

Read carefully his posts. You will find it.

I read that specific post carefully, that's why I think he didn't