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  • #6,861
  • May 11, 2013 3:31am May 11, 2013 3:31am
Quoting forexhard
{quote} The market is crazy every day. That's why I created SSBO, it filters 90% of the craziness. The "crazy" market you were afraid to enter this week gave me 153p on just this 1 M15 chart....: {image}
Why does this thread have to be in the recycle bin if you are posting to it still? It's like you threw a hissy fit when changed to a commercial member. People have repeatedly said they have found the thread useful. Can the thread just be closed (no new posting) but left for its own value?

Fxhard as creator you have spent a lot of time on this thread, others have also devoted a lot of time devoted to studying it, and this is just a bullshit way to finish it.

This thread should be kept on ff for those fortunate enough to find it.
  • #6,862
  • May 11, 2013 3:59am May 11, 2013 3:59am
If people still want to post here then why posting here should be banned? It reads in the first post when the thread was moved to recycle bin so it doesn't disturb any new readers who will find this thread. Especially if forexhard still wants to post here from time to time I can't see any reason to lock this thread.
  • #6,863
  • May 11, 2013 4:15am May 11, 2013 4:15am
Quoting profitpips
If people still want to post here then why posting here should be banned? It reads in the first post when the thread was moved to recycle bin so it doesn't disturb any new readers who will find this thread. Especially if forexhard still wants to post here from time to time I can't see any reason to lock this thread.

Yes Im sure lots of new people will find this in the recycle bin. My point is not so much locking the thread, but keeping it where it is accessible.
  • #6,864
  • May 11, 2013 4:21am May 11, 2013 4:21am
Ok I missed your point, but yes I agree that maybe it should be somewhere else than in recycle bin.
  • #6,865
  • May 11, 2013 5:47am May 11, 2013 5:47am
can anyone tell me at least on what page I can find the latest indicator, what most of traders use (with EMA and so ) ?

thanks very much and kind regards
argon
  • #6,866
  • May 11, 2013 6:27am May 11, 2013 6:27am
Quoting argon
can anyone tell me at least on what page I can find the latest indicator, what most of traders use (with EMA and so ) ? thanks very much and kind regards argon
On page 371 if i'm not mistaken Argon

EDIT : Used to be page 371, a lot of pages have disapeared .. look at the picture I uploaded, you can find it there, it's the last upload of FH
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  • #6,867
  • May 11, 2013 6:42am May 11, 2013 6:42am
Quoting Armacom
{quote} On page 371 if i'm not mistaken Argon EDIT : Used to be page 371, a lot of pages have disapeared .. look at the picture I uploaded, you can find it there, it's the last upload of FH {image}
hi armacom !
thanks my friend, now it is on page 252!!! why pages are vanishing ? maybe because this is only and truly profitably system on FF and around ?
maybe the BIG guys (as federal reserve -rothshilds and rockafelers, goldman sachs etc who are real owners of forex ) don't like this thread ?

kind regards my friend and thanks again
argon
  • #6,868
  • May 11, 2013 10:12am May 11, 2013 10:12am
Quoting argon
{quote} hi armacom ! thanks my friend, now it is on page 252!!! why pages are vanishing ? maybe because this is only and truly profitably system on FF and around ? maybe the BIG guys (as federal reserve -rothshilds and rockafelers, goldman sachs etc who are real owners of forex ) don't like this thread ? kind regards my friend and thanks again argon
Argon, my friend, please take my advice and actually read the thread. The fact that Armacom had to tell you how to find the latest indicator shows that you haven't done everything asked of you in post #1. If you got excited after jumping to the end, seeing fancy pictures and Net Pips on the indicator display you'll be sorely disappointed. You'll be back in here asking basic questions that were asked over and over and over again; many people will not be inclined to help you.
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  • #6,869
  • Edited 10:42am May 11, 2013 10:19am | Edited 10:42am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Yes Im sure lots of new people will find this in the recycle bin. My point is not so much locking the thread, but keeping it where it is accessible.
Hi Ben,

I wish the fate of this thread was different as well. However, what do you think would happen to this thread without ForexHard at the helm? It would become a haven for noobs and spammers. Every other post would be about the release of the EA or where they can find the latest indicator; re-hashing of questions and ideas that were covered several times since no one is inclined to read the whole thread anymore. I also think at some point a new lagging indicator would be introduced for "better" entries. This thread would eventually derail like every other thread on FF.

On the other hand, locking it defines a definite end to something we've come to love. By allowing users to post it keeps it alive for those who have already discovered it. Doji still posts. You still post. ForexHard still posts. Wouldn't you rather see this then the thread completely locked?

We have to come to a realization. The regulars are long gone. Xux is long gone. It is only us now.
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  • #6,870
  • May 11, 2013 10:24am May 11, 2013 10:24am
Quoting ForexFury
{quote} Argon, my friend, please take my advice and actually read the thread. The fact that Armacom had to tell you how to find the latest indicator shows that you haven't done everything asked of you in post #1. If you got excited after jumping to the end, seeing fancy pictures and Net Pips on the indicator display you'll be sorely disappointed. You'll be back in here asking basic questions that were asked over and over and over again; many people will not be inclined to help you.

thanks for advice ForexFury, but I had read 1st page and did all what was advised there, beside I am not novice trader so I know what is real gold when I find it! and I am making already pips with older version, as the swing trading or breakout/CZ zones etc. I understand very well! why do you say I will be disappointed?
I have run hundredths of back tests as well, and all looks just great (with twciking here and there, coz each pair has his own settings), as well as time frames! but I would appreciate if you tell me something maybe what I dont know!?

thanks for reply and have agreat weekend my friend
kind regards
argon
  • #6,871
  • May 11, 2013 10:35am May 11, 2013 10:35am
Quoting oztrader79
{quote} Why does this thread have to be in the recycle bin if you are posting to it still? It's like you threw a hissy fit when changed to a commercial member. People have repeatedly said they have found the thread useful. Can the thread just be closed (no new posting) but left for its own value? Fxhard as creator you have spent a lot of time on this thread, others have also devoted a lot of time devoted to studying it, and this is just a bullshit way to finish it. This thread should be kept on ff for those fortunate enough to find it.
Once my status was changed I lost the ability to block troublemakers, earn vouchers, or give vouchers. I also lost the ability to send or receive PM's. In short, I lost the use every tool I used to have for maintaining order in the thread. And since as OP I can no longer regulate the thread or it's contents, the Recycle Bin is maybe the best place for it.
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  • #6,872
  • May 11, 2013 10:48am May 11, 2013 10:48am
Quoting forexhard
{quote} Once my status was changed I lost the ability to block troublemakers, earn vouchers, or give vouchers. I also lost the ability to send or receive PM's. In short, I lost the use every tool I used to have for maintaining order in the thread. And since as OP I can no longer regulate the thread or it's contents, the Recycle Bin is maybe the best place for it.
hi forexhard
I am so sorry for this great thread (I am sorry I found it so late too), but my compliments to you, squalou, xux and all regular members here!
I have done lots of testings and it is solid(forexhard) gold (god bless you), and now I am reading thread from beginning.
I am also so sorry the moderators mined you here (dont believe that FF is founded/run or financed by good fiery) !
I dont want to bother you much , so if you dont answer its fine as well!
have just one question really if you dont mind, is there any real reason why someone should not use the indi from 1st page ?
do the new and old indi shows the same truth or not ?

thanks again and have a great weekend
argon

ps/ anyone else can also answer my question if they dont mind...thanks guys
  • #6,873
  • May 11, 2013 12:17pm May 11, 2013 12:17pm
To answer your question - There is no reason to not use the indi on the 1st page. The actual first indicator is the box's drawn in the first series of posts by FH. The one you are talking about is a good indicator to use as well. There is no truth to look for. SSBO is based on a very simple concept - covered as well on the first page - the market goes into periods of consolidation and from these periods price moves out in one direction or the other. FH's teaching was more about money management and trade mangement than the concept. The indicator is a crutch that needed to be developed before an ea could have been developed. The best next step for you is to stop reading looking for the truth and just trade cz's to the best of your ability and learn from your journal how to improve your results.

I am amazed at all the vitrial thrown at FH. He taught a way to be profitable and people would rather beat him up for decisions he has made for his personal well being than thank him for his tireless effort to change peoples lives for the better. I, for one, am very grateful for FH and his contribution to my life.
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  • #6,874
  • May 11, 2013 12:45pm May 11, 2013 12:45pm
Quoting SedonaPipper
To answer your question - There is no reason to not use the indi on the 1st page. The actual first indicator is the box's drawn in the first series of posts by FH. The one you are talking about is a good indicator to use as well. There is no truth to look for. SSBO is based on a very simple concept - covered as well on the first page - the market goes into periods of consolidation and from these periods price moves out in one direction or the other. FH's teaching was more about money management and trade mangement than the concept. The indicator...

thanks for answer SP
when I was talking abouth truth, I meant the figures that is all, I know that the base of this great system is CZ and trading from there!
and the newer indi is a bit better coz it has EMA filter which does good job most of the time and other things as well!
yes thanks again to FH for great effort and endless altruism ! and SSBO is truth it self no guessing where market will go, which is great ! according to me find the best settings for the pairs (few, not to much though) you want to trade (above 75-8o% 1st breakout ) and then just execute the trade, if you start considering what might happen and what not, you will miss so many good trades, and you don't have to use martingale at all, but even if you use, when your first trade ratio is above 75-80% you have great chance to recover in next one the lost!

cheers
argon
  • #6,875
  • May 11, 2013 1:04pm May 11, 2013 1:04pm
Quoting argon
{quote} thanks for answer SP when I was talking abouth truth, I meant the figures that is all, I know that the base of this great system is CZ and trading from there! and the newer indi is a bit better coz it has EMA filter which does good job most of the time and other things as well! yes thanks again to FH for great effort and endless altruism ! and SSBO is truth it self no guessing where market will go, which is great ! according to me find the best settings for the pairs (few, not to much though) you want to trade (above 75-8o% 1st breakout...
Based on this response you already had the answer to the question you asked so I am guessing you were looking for something else - what is it?
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  • #6,876
  • May 11, 2013 1:42pm May 11, 2013 1:42pm
Quoting SedonaPipper
{quote} Based on this response you already had the answer to the question you asked so I am guessing you were looking for something else - what is it?

thanks for answer my friend trader SP!
yes i have asked my question a bit to fast, didnt check first the work of new indi, which is amassing one !in total looks that SSBO is great system!
what are your experiences with SSBO? do you have any advice, as I have just started using it ? thanks again.

cheers
argon
  • #6,877
  • May 11, 2013 2:10pm May 11, 2013 2:10pm
Quoting argon
{quote} thanks for answer my friend trader SP! yes i have asked my question a bit to fast, didnt check first the work of new indi, which is amassing one !in total looks that SSBO is great system! what are your experiences with SSBO? do you have any advice, as I have just started using it ? thanks again. cheers argon
My advice - and this will be redundent - take 4 currencies - find settings that you like based on the time you can trade - don't touch them for 100 days and trade each cz to the best of your ability and keep a journal. As I said nothing new to add to what you already have been exposed to reading the thread. In truth, 344 pages could be consolidated down to the first 10. SSBO is really about trade management and money management and that is a very personal experience. What I do is different than what FH does which is different that what OZtrader which is different that what other people do etc... The purpose of the 100 day challenge is to find your way. No one has the answer because the answer can only come from you. You can make it hard or easy its your choice. Hard is to trying to figure out how to maximize results, get in before a cz break, micro manage a trade, ask lots of questions that have already been answered, and become frustrated with the whole learning process. Easy is to just trade a cz as it shows up. Good Luck.
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  • #6,878
  • May 11, 2013 2:34pm May 11, 2013 2:34pm
Quoting SedonaPipper
{quote} My advice - and this will be redundent - take 4 currencies - find settings that you like based on the time you can trade - don't touch them for 100 days and trade each cz to the best of your ability and keep a journal. As I said nothing new to add to what you already have been exposed to reading the thread. In truth, 344 pages could be consolidated down to the first 10. SSBO is really about trade management and money management and that is a very personal experience. What I do is different than what FH does which is different that what OZtrader...

thanks for answer SD, yes you are absolutely right about MM,it is basic power of any good system (for poor one even best MM cant help), but as I've said too, few pairs which has above 80 % BO trades, you can step on it goooood! and you need only 1 trade /day to make good living even rich in time! I woun't let trade which is 10 pips in green to turn against me , at least BE+2 must be there! and about pairs, I was thinking the same 4-5 pairs with best settings (above 80 %) and martingale (why not?) even without is fine! from each 10 trades you have on 4 - 6 trades (depend of TP/SL or box size) 100 % profit what is JUST GREAT!you don,t need anything more to change your family's life forever 4 better!
even to help people (children and old people) and who really needs help!

cheers and thanks again for reply and tips
argon
  • #6,879
  • May 11, 2013 5:25pm May 11, 2013 5:25pm
Quoting argon
{quote} thanks for answer SD, yes you are absolutely right about MM,it is basic power of any good system (for poor one even best MM cant help), but as I've said too, few pairs which has above 80 % BO trades, you can step on it goooood! and you need only 1 trade /day to make good living even rich in time! I woun't let trade which is 10 pips in green to turn against me , at least BE+2 must be there! and about pairs, I was thinking the same 4-5 pairs with best settings (above 80 %) and martingale (why not?) even without is fine! from each 10 trades...
You seem to have spent most of your time in the FF trading ea's instead of learning how to trade. Why not forget all this stuff and learn how to trade? I gave you some advice previously, and you come back with 80% wins on a few pairs blah blah blah, I use 0% win settings. Think about that - 0% win settings and I still find cz's and trade them. I am not afraid of negative pips won on the indicator because I know how to trade a cz and I know a lot about the indicator and what the relationship between its variables mean.

The wrong part of your brain is engaged in your anaylsis, find the part of your brain that stays focused on the task at hand instead of the dreamer of glory and riches. Becoming a trader is a journey into the soul. Learning to listen to thoughts and knowing what part of your brain is engaged is one of the keys to success. Intuition, knowing, unconcious competence, have real meaning.

80% wins, 100% wins on the indicator mean nothing, that was a cleaver way for FH to quickly identify cz's for a pair but it was only his first step in the process of finding the sweet spot for a pair and then trading it. Most of his settings are going for 65% win on the breakout, he has posted many charts with negative pips won on the indicator. Why? now that is the question of the day. Answer that question and you will start to learn how to trade SSBO effectively.

Oh well, I just like to hear myself talk and pontificate. All this means nothing, its just a guy somewhere in space spreading a gospel as if its the truth.
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  • #6,880
  • May 11, 2013 5:50pm May 11, 2013 5:50pm
Quoting SedonaPipper
{quote} now that is the question of the day. Answer that question and you will start to learn how to trade SSBO effectively.
If you are courageous enough, Argon, follow what SP has told you WITHOUT the indicator. No back testing (unless you have trouble identifying CZ, or unless you want to understand what happens AFTER a CZ has appeared - but then that would mean you haven't done the 1 week homework). Forward test and you will soon see the simplicity of the strategy.

There isn't much to it, really.

CZ forms, you fix a reasonable target, price breaks out. And 2 things can happen. You win, or you get stopped out. Thing is, price won't stay in that range forever.
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