Order Flow Trading

You're totally right Neo.. MyFXBook is nice, but I don't trade with a public platform that provides that option. Send me an email I'll send you an invite.

Sure thing. I need your email address though.

Best Regards,
Neo

Either http://depthofbook.com or http://orderbookfx.com has support contacts that will get to me.

Hi guys

Enrolled on the Black Box Course and have been trading with it for a while now. Just wanted to say it's completely changed the way I look at markets. What I've learned here I haven't seen anywhere else and I no longer enter trades and hope. I'd say 8/10 times as soon as I enter a trade I'm in a profitable zone within seconds. More than that, when I enter a trade I've never been so confident that I'll be in the money.

We trade alongside the big boys and I now know that's what's needed to be in the top 5%.

Cheers to Echelon!

For those that want transparency and want to see what this is all about.

Go to Echelon Research (http://depthofbook.com) and select the EchelonTV Link. Select a daily subscription, use promo code fxfact and it will give a day's pass.

The predicted trendline provides the transparency while order flow confirms the direction of the trend. Trade with both in combination and confirm on price action. Its that easy.

There's latency in the video feed but you'd get a good sense of what our students and clients enjoy.

If you want to see a video clip of it running... YouTube
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8ege6sPCA4)

Tried to open an account twice but no luck so far.

Didn't you teach your own unique system? Which is the better course? Yours or Black Box Course?

Hi, yes I do have my own system which works as shown. However, I am always looking to further my forex knowledge and the Black Box course has taught me things that I have not seen anywhere before and has greatly increased my profitability.

Has anyone been able to get a trial of OrderFlowFX lately?

How is it different to the DoM data that futures traders can get? As far as I'm aware they don't have an 80+% success rate in predicting price movements.

Are the traders here who commented on how good it is still using it?

Does the predictive ability of the data deteriorate on higher time frames?

Trials are rare these days. It takes time to get them.. and patience. As far as predictive movements.. Futures DOM is junk... as it includes the uninformed traders. As far as OrderFLOWFX.. not sure what you're referring to... OrderBookFX... ahh yes. Just takes patience. Prediction of movements with dynamic cycle identification is simple. We do it 24 hours a day. Products lines are changing at OrderBookFX so have patience.

May I ask why trials are rare, i.e. the 7 day trial?

Is it expensive to learn dynamic cycle identification?

Because giving them means freebie surfers always come back for more for free. Give them the world and they ask for bonuses!

So we are selective. We can be. The prediction model is dynamically automatic for identifying cycles. We keep it transparent.

You said product lines are changing so be patient. Is the paid OrderBookFX currently available?

An Independent Review

I have recently completed the course with OrderBookFX and here's my review of the two months of training received. Obviously I cannot go into the specifics of what is taught as that is proprietary - though Nick has shared much of it here.

Prior to joining the course I had looked at the material which was at the time housed on the Udemy site. Judging the material I envisaged there would be a fair bit of theory before I got into the trading arena. Not so. From day one I was thrust into the front line trading environment (albeit in demo). I'm not the brightest bulb in the box so for about the first, maybe 5 days my head was a little scrambled. I was coming across concepts I had not encountered before. No lagging indicators, no "usual" broker dependences - just real-time in the moment indications of potential prive moves. I think what took the time was looking at a range of factors simultaneously to coincide and correlate for the right entry / exit conditions. The concepts are clear enough but Without a doubt there is some brain-retraining required - and this will ONLY yield results with screen time. You will have to put in the time for the approach to become intuitive. My fear was that the methodology and Nick's experise would be purely coincidental. Not so. There were/are days when I've had 80 - 90% winning trades. Of course there have been (and sometimes still are) days when I've wondered if I picked up anything at all. Thankfully, these are rare and my winning days outweigh my losing days.

I have completed the course and armed with the OrderBookFx feed now trade the methodology at home. Am I an expert? No, not at all. Am I still learning?Absolutely. But I do now have the confidence to trade this within a live environment. It will take continued effort for the approach to become purely second nature. There are planned software enhancements ahead and I shall be keeping in touch with OrderbookFX and Echelon.

But make no mistake. This is different and is the way I shall continue my trading career.

Cheers

Hutch

It is, but that level of service will be changing this week. Allowing those who want the market depth numbers to maintain the numbers while allowing those who want low latency indicator numbers to have that alone.

Thanks for your informative review Hutch. I'm still not sure about the training available. This is what I think there could be:

Training from Echelon that costs thousands
A trading room that may not be running anymore, and probably only during US hours if it is
The prediction cycle identification becomes obvious with the use of OrderBookFX

Thousands no.. cheap?.. No. Useful... it all depends on someones commitment. Fruitful. Like nothing you've ever seen. Prediction Model.. no not tied to order flow. Unfortunately most don't have the mindset for trading. Hence their constant losing. They stick with the hopes and dreams of trading for a living, but that's about it. Speaking of order flow.. this isn't quasi order flow trading. There are others here in FF that suggest Order Flow. But.. its all bs they aren't following any flow of any sort only theoretical s/r zones. If I can help the average trader gain on 8/10 in a few short weeks... find another that hits a ratio 1/2 that good!

The Trading Room.. it's there. But more for a community environment. Regulations have restricted usefulness of yesterday to trading rooms.

It looks probable that people can't trade with OrderBookFX in 7 days without training, so I'm not sure whether any commitment to paying for training would be built in the 7 days.... Is there currently any training provided during the 7 day trial?

There are orientation sessions of training, on Mondays that are free.

*** During these Monday sessions, many have said the information I give away about the markets is more than they've ever seen even during paid books/lectures/seminars.

I've tried many order flow programs with their overpriced data feeds.. Now like the prodigal son, I'm back to where
I came to two years ago!
Thanks for a great product.