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  • #201
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:31am Feb 20, 2013 12:31am
Quoting nubcake
yes. just because some information will be bogus means IT'S ALL BOGUS. nothing is useful. anything that can, and does, ever fail invalidates every instance of it.
oops I forgot there was a topic here, I just saw "Trading Explorer" in the topic the other day and started rabbiting on about some stuff.

For long while now I've just assumed pretty much everything around here is pretty much a fabricated version of the truth. Works for me.

[beware lame golfing metaphor approaching fast]

You'll never learn to play golf watching someone else game, maybe they can give you some ideas but no man (or woman's) swing is ever the same.

Quoting allisonmagic
. give me another 7 years and i'll at least tell you where the trend is going
I'll give you two
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  • #202
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:36am Feb 20, 2013 12:36am
Quoting CindyXXXX


I'll give you two

thank you CindyXXXX, much appreciated
  • #203
  • Edited 12:53am Feb 20, 2013 12:38am | Edited 12:53am
Quoting Kyler
I appreciate the time people take to write a nice descriptive post on the mechanics of their latest and greatest trading system. But if its such an awesome system why don't they attach an explorer to it?

A 1200 character post isn't worth much without any proof, all you new people to forex ask yourself this question every time you see that new and improved system, If its so good why isn't the Author backing it up!


I am in no way trying to say that there is not money to be made in Forex, I do pretty good myself,[b] I just want to know if there...
Few of the CRYSTAL-CLEAR reasons:
Bcoz:
1) Most of those thread owners never made good %profits trading such systems
2) Out of those "most" above, majority actually lost money trading such systems
3) Out of those "most" above, some actually were not able to follow their "probably"-profitable-system bcoz either it was not fully mechanical or EA malfunctioned or rules were ambiguous to reproduce into manual "proper" trades to assess system's profitability
4) Many don't feel the need to and neither duty bound to post proofs for you given the fact that they have/are already spent/spending their time helping you out with the "Probably"-profitable-system
Though IMO such people if they start a thread indirectly saying "this works for me" & " this is a profitable system" they should indeed consider posting a T.explorer(trading that system) to add reliability to their "system thread" & help the newbies & allied interested in their system & may be, the inputs/feedback he/she gets, can help the system OP better the edge in that system.
5) Some (which actually made profits based on those systems) are privacy loving and infer the pros of posting an explorer outweigh cons of the same. (There are pro's and cons of course; many issues; long story some other time)

There are some more i can think of.
Hope this helps.
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  • #204
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:39am Feb 20, 2013 12:39am
Quoting CindyXXXX

You'll never learn to play golf watching someone else game, maybe they can give you some ideas but no man (or woman's) swing is ever the same.
But who would you prefer to help you to learn to play Golf?
1. Someone you have never seen play and only have his word that he is an excellent golfer
2. Someone that you have seen play and know from his results that he is an excellent golfer
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  • #205
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:46am Feb 20, 2013 12:46am
Quoting Gumrai
But who would you prefer to help you to learn to play Golf?
1. Someone you have never seen play and only have his word that he is an excellent golfer
2. Someone that you have seen play and know from his results that he is an excellent golfer

Ohhhh is that a trick question ??
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  • #206
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:48am Feb 20, 2013 12:48am
Quoting Gumrai
But who would you prefer to help you to learn to play Golf?
1. Someone you have never seen play and only have his word that he is an excellent golfer
2. Someone that you have seen play and know from his results that he is an excellent golfer
I taught myself to play Golf

Quoting allisonmagic
thank you CindyXXXX, much appreciated
Yeah no worries. I see we have a lot in common, we were both silly enough to signup here with chicks names. You're gonna be regretting that in 2 years as well
That's shits for life dude

London a commin', I'm out

GL
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  • #207
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:53am Feb 20, 2013 12:53am
to cook it down in few words.

If you are a guru and claim you just want to teach/give something back ,,and you claim to be succesfull.

But you dont want to back it up with real proff ,,,because of al kind of stupid excuses..

You are just a fraud.. simple as that...
StopLoss is for none belivers... Trust the Gurus..
  • #208
  • Feb 20, 2013 1:10am Feb 20, 2013 1:10am
Quoting CindyXXXX
I taught myself to play Golf



Yeah no worries. I see we have a lot in common, we were both silly enough to signup here with chicks names. You're gonna be regretting that in 2 years as well
That's shits for life dude

London a commin', I'm out

GL

allison is my last name lol
  • #209
  • Feb 20, 2013 1:11am Feb 20, 2013 1:11am
Quoting allisonmagic
allison is my last name lol
Yea and Cindy was my uncle haha jokes
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  • #210
  • Feb 20, 2013 2:25am Feb 20, 2013 2:25am
Quoting allisonmagic
allison is my last name lol
Hi Allison,

While you say you are not successful yet, the equity curve shown on your TE looks very good. How is it possible?

kk007
  • #211
  • Feb 20, 2013 2:35am Feb 20, 2013 2:35am
A lot of these posts are getting off topic. The Trade Explorer was primarily designed so that traders could analyse their performance. It has many more facilities than the average broker platform offers and I find it useful for that reason. It is possible to hide a trade explorer completely to just use it privately and it's obvious from a lot of your posts that you did not know this.

So back to the topic. I am at the moment forward testing a strategy which is very simple. Trade Explorer gives me an easy way to see expectancy and to view data. Out of courtesy, if I were to post the strategy for others to use, I think I might post the Explorer to show that at least someone can trade profitably with it. I doubt I will, though, as these threads are mostly populated with lazy people who would be unlikely to inspire.
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  • #212
  • Feb 20, 2013 2:36am Feb 20, 2013 2:36am
Quoting kk007
Hi Allison,

While you say you are not successful yet, the equity curve shown on your TE looks very good. How is it possible?

kk007

busted... lol
  • #213
  • Feb 20, 2013 2:50am Feb 20, 2013 2:50am
It's very simple why people don't share their real live account on FF or TE. Like what smikester, these analytics are meant in my opinion as well, just to test and analyze stuff.

whether or not is it making money is secondary, as the account to each of their own, demo or real, in the end, one should just learn how to trade better and improve, instead of comparing or trying to learn something which might not work well for oneself.
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  • #214
  • Feb 20, 2013 2:56am Feb 20, 2013 2:56am
Quoting 5percent
It's very simple why people don't share their real live account on FF or TE. Like what smikester, these analytics are meant in my opinion as well, just to test and analyze stuff.

whether or not is it making money is secondary, as the account to each of their own, demo or real, in the end, one should just learn how to trade better and improve, instead of comparing or trying to learn something which might not work well for oneself.

good point. i'm going live in a day or so.. so we shall see how well it works for me.. however just because i'm making green pips doesn't mean anyone else will do so well with my system.. you have to manage your own risks and trade according to your own personal preferences
  • #215
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:03am Feb 20, 2013 3:03am
Quoting nubcake
hey man, if you ever have any coughs or colds you should totally come and see me. you see, i'm a doctor. i can even cure cancer with my magic vial of orange juice and my secret ingredients bestowed upon me from a wise old mans herb-farm on a hilltop in china. don't concern yourself with the fact that i don't have a certification on display showing i'm a doctor, or any official registration anywhere that i'm a doctor, or any evidence of any of my claims of salvation...

JUST BELIEVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! only through faith and rigorous work on your...
If i get ill i will give you a call, see I know you had a talent and I knew it wasn't trading
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  • #216
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:05am Feb 20, 2013 3:05am
All those guys who are saying without a TE we're all fakers and frauds should post this months results here, or by their own admissions we shouldn't listen to a word they say....

of course they won't though...

the muppet hunter is a muppet too no doubt
tradewith60
  • #217
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:06am Feb 20, 2013 3:06am
Quoting 60minuteman
If i get ill i will give you a call, see I know you had a talent and I knew it wasn't trading

  • #218
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:09am Feb 20, 2013 3:09am
Quoting smikester
A lot of these posts are getting off topic. The Trade Explorer was primarily designed so that traders could analyse their performance. It has many more facilities than the average broker platform offers and I find it useful for that reason. It is possible to hide a trade explorer completely to just use it privately and it's obvious from a lot of your posts that you did not know this.

So back to the topic. I am at the moment forward testing a strategy which is very simple. Trade Explorer gives me an easy way to see expectancy and to view data....

People just get excited because if they see someone with a ridiculous equity curve, they want to know what system is making this happen. I don't think they care if it's demo or live because it's proving to be consistent
  • #219
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:12am Feb 20, 2013 3:12am
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  • #220
  • Feb 20, 2013 3:15am Feb 20, 2013 3:15am
the only thing is.. if i find a good system that works for me, i will post my TE.. however if i am testing like 30 systems and 1000 EA's.. i will do it without.. it mixes up my stats .. whatever is in my TE, is what i'm currently testing
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