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  • #27,301
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:44pm Feb 7, 2013 10:44pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
Both plants and traders have hormones. Both try to do things as efficient as possible. However, the fib sequence can be seen as things trying to get as far away from each other as possible. Even water droplets dropping one at a time into a dish will move as far away from each other in sequence.
Gnarly, you are one cool guy. I dig your style and all but holy cow that is a big stretch. Human hormones are responsible for today's price of gold, oil, etc?! Haha.

I hear you on the nature stuff. That makes sense. Just don't think it applies to the markets.
  • #27,302
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:49pm Feb 7, 2013 10:49pm
Quoting roro53
you are cool in my book, D. thanks for letting me post

just trying to make a point about prechter.......not a real good record when someone looks under the waves
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  • #27,303
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:50pm Feb 7, 2013 10:50pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nsLjw3zv5ys
  • #27,304
  • Feb 7, 2013 10:55pm Feb 7, 2013 10:55pm
Quoting DaddyBear
IMO, GP tried to use an analogy to describe a natural order.

In the meantime, the chaos in the market would end up in a form of the human herd mentality expressed in waves, which was the cornerstone of EWP that R.N. Elliot discovered long time ago. The EWP and Fibonacci are two facets of the same natural phenomena.
Ok I see where you are going with it. This makes more sense than comparing the markets to leaves on a plant. However, I still don't see how it can be exploited in trading. Not without knowing exactly which wave, sub-wave, etc one is on. Also, the rules of EWP as I have read them are very vague. Not sure RN Elliot even knows what he meant.
  • #27,305
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:04pm Feb 7, 2013 11:04pm
You know what time it is?...

Booby time!

http://2.cdn.tapcdn.com/images/thumb...34-animate.gif
  • #27,306
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:08pm Feb 7, 2013 11:08pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Ok I see where you are going with it. This makes more sense than comparing the markets to leaves on a plant. However, I still don't see how it can be exploited in trading. Not without knowing exactly which wave, sub-wave, etc one is on. Also, the rules of EWP as I have read them are very vague. Not sure RN Elliot even knows what he meant.
The market behaviors are the footprints of human herd mentality. Like light and sound, these footprints are in the form of waves but more complicated.

R.N. Elliot was a genius like Fibonacci. IMO he realized the order within the chaos of the markets. I am sure he knew what he meant. He saw something invisible in the markets that most people still don't see it so many years after his discovery.
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  • #27,307
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:09pm Feb 7, 2013 11:09pm
Quoting GnarlyPips
I guess you can call it an original quote, if you want, or you can just quote me! Ha. However, thanks!



Both plants and traders have hormones. Both try to do things as efficient as possible. However, the fib sequence can be seen as things trying to get as far away from each other as possible. Even water droplets dropping one at a time into a dish will move as far away from each other in sequence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14-NdQwKz9w
Love those nature videos. Nature is interesting. Billions (I think) of years of evolution.
  • #27,308
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:10pm Feb 7, 2013 11:10pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
You know what time it is?...

Booby time!

Look Sharp/Trade Tight
  • #27,309
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:12pm Feb 7, 2013 11:12pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
You know what time it is?...

Booby time!

http://2.cdn.tapcdn.com/images/thumb...34-animate.gif
I love that girl.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #27,310
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:13pm Feb 7, 2013 11:13pm
I think Davit's painting is more eye pleasing than your woman....

http://www.forexfactory.com/attachme...1&d=1351462383

Quoting 2+2=4ex
You know what time it is?...

Booby time!

http://2.cdn.tapcdn.com/images/thumb...34-animate.gif
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  • #27,311
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:21pm Feb 7, 2013 11:21pm
oh my god..

that is 1,1,1,1,1,1,1

one one one one

want want want want

i want i want i want

fib me..


Quoting 2+2=4ex
You know what time it is?...

Booby time!

http://2.cdn.tapcdn.com/images/thumb...34-animate.gif
  • #27,312
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:26pm Feb 7, 2013 11:26pm
Quoting DaddyBear
The market behaviors are the footprints of human herd mentality. Like light and sound, these footprints are in the form of waves but more complicated.

R.N. Elliot was a genius like Fibonacci. IMO he realized the order within the chaos of the markets. I am sure he knew what he meant. He saw something invisible in the markets that most people still don't see it so many years after his discovery.
Yea but did he see those boobies I just posted in the gif image? Hehe

Ok on a serious note... I do think Elliot's principle is noteworthy and it's discovery is great. I just think it only makes sense in hindsight. When studying historical price on a chart it looks magnificent. You can see where to put all the big numbers and little letters. Now try doing it into the future. Different story.
  • #27,313
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:28pm Feb 7, 2013 11:28pm
Quoting DaddyBear
I think Davit's painting is more eye pleasing than your woman....
You're only saying that cause I won't agree with your EWP thing.

BTW, Davit's drawing, although nice, is of a fat lady. Mines is an actual photo of a young fit woman. (and in motion)
  • #27,314
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:31pm Feb 7, 2013 11:31pm
Quoting 2+2=4ex
You're only saying that cause I won't agree with your EWP thing.

BTW, Davit's drawing, although nice, is of a fat lady. Mines is an actual photo of a young fit woman. (and in motion)
but davit's painting is one which you can proudly hang in your living room,

yours.. stays in my bathroom..
  • #27,315
  • Feb 7, 2013 11:37pm Feb 7, 2013 11:37pm
Quoting HelloOz
but davit's painting is one which you can proudly hang in your living room,

yours.. stays in my bathroom..
That is true. LOL
  • #27,316
  • Feb 8, 2013 12:18am Feb 8, 2013 12:18am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
Ok I see where you are going with it. This makes more sense than comparing the markets to leaves on a plant. However, I still don't see how it can be exploited in trading. Not without knowing exactly which wave, sub-wave, etc one is on. Also, the rules of EWP as I have read them are very vague. Not sure RN Elliot even knows what he meant.

One thing I have thought of is if each participant in the markets. ie: central bank, interbanks, importers and exporters..., could be represented as a plant specie. Not all leaves will grow a phi amount away from each other, like mentioned in the video from the previous page, some grow directly across the stem at once at 90 degree angles. Identifying the type of plant and it's growth patterns may be possible to transfer the idea to the markets.

Also, you have to think of it as an ecosystem, as well, where the fittest eat the weakest. Lions go hungry after a certain amount of time after eating a carcass. They don't go hunting again right afterwards, but they will die if they don't eat in a timely manner. A lion, I don't think, would pass up the chance to be opportunistic. (steal a kill) Managers are hungry for profit. I don't think traders trade position after position immediately, though, maybe the automated systems can.

I've been trying to quantify these thoughts, but it's hard.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #27,317
  • Feb 8, 2013 1:41am Feb 8, 2013 1:41am
Quoting 2+2=4ex
You're only saying that cause I won't agree with your EWP thing.

BTW, Davit's drawing, although nice, is of a fat lady. Mines is an actual photo of a young fit woman. (and in motion)
In the Da Vinci era, fat is considered more sexy than the thin one.
  • #27,318
  • Feb 8, 2013 2:33am Feb 8, 2013 2:33am
London buying it up.
Play the players, not the cards.
  • #27,319
  • Feb 8, 2013 4:17am Feb 8, 2013 4:17am
Wow...its 80 pips up in a slow but sure motion..
  • #27,320
  • Feb 8, 2013 5:32am Feb 8, 2013 5:32am
latest upmove mainly USD-driven.
If bears want to continue 1.0350 would be a nice spot to do so

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