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  • #841
  • Jan 16, 2013 4:43am Jan 16, 2013 4:43am
Quoting hanover
Hi Diogo,

Many thanks for your suggestion.

The permissions is one possible problem, and it can be solved in the manner that you described. This link also provides similar suggestions.

However, there also seems to be a problem with the data transfer between the VO scripts and VOConsole. It occurs on some Win7 computers, and some VPSs, but not others. It may have something to do with other applications that may be running, e.g. Java, virus checkers, firewalls,...
VM are usable on 32 machines and 64 machines.
Free solution virtual-box and others;

Best regards
Diogo
  • #842
  • Edited 6:16am Feb 5, 2013 6:15am | Edited 6:16am
I can't successfully place pending orders using VO-Pro 3.0.5. It does work with v3.0.3, though

When I attempt to execute one, I see an error in the logs:

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VO Create New Order: cannot delete file C:\<path>\experts\files\LINES
VO-Pro has worked fine for me with this broker (FxPro, demo), but possibly not with this version (Build 451, 21 Dec 2012), and I'm not sure v3.0.5 has ever worked with pending orders (not tried them in my current strategy).

Market orders work fine in 3.0.5.

I tried creating a file LINES for it to delete. It did delete it, but still complained that it couldn't. And didn't place the order.

My platform is Windows 7. I also copied the MT4 instance to an XP VM, and got exactly the same error.

Possible regression? Can you please look into this? I am happy to help test and debug more.
  • #843
  • Feb 5, 2013 9:50am Feb 5, 2013 9:50am
Quoting idempotent
I can't successfully place pending orders using VO-Pro 3.0.5. It does work with v3.0.3, though

When I attempt to execute one, I see an error in the logs:

VO-Pro has worked fine for me with this broker (FxPro, demo), but possibly not with this version (Build 451, 21 Dec 2012), and I'm not sure v3.0.5 has ever worked with pending orders (not tried them in my current strategy).

Market orders work fine in 3.0.5.

I tried creating a file LINES for it to delete. It did delete it, but still complained that it couldn't. And didn't place the order.

My...
Oh hell. I don't have any answers. VO v3.05 works fine on Win XP SP2/Pepperstone MT4 build 427, which is what I'm running. I just placed a buy limit order now without any problems.

v3.05 has been around since last Sept. I don't understand why it's worked OK for 4 months, but you're suddenly starting to experience problems now, or why nobody else (there have been around 115 buyers, and I assume at least some of these are still using it) has reported your problem during the 4 months.

I've attached the zip installer file for v3.03, v3.04 and v3.05, if you want to try them, but I don't think running an earlier version is likely to solve your problem.

There are three files that VO uses for inter-communication between VOConsole.EXE and 'VO Create New Order' script. They are:

1. File "LINES". This file is created by the script, and tells VOConsole that the lines are currently showing on the screen, i.e. that the script is currently running. Thus VOConsole grays out all of the settings that may not be changed while the Create New Order function is in progress. After either the EXECUTE (green tickmark) or CANCEL (red X) button is clicked, VOConsole deletes the LINES file.

2. File "PROCEED". This file is created by VOConsole, and tells the script that the EXECUTE button has been clicked, and that the script should therefore proceed with placing the order. After the order has been placed, the script deletes the file, and then it ends.

3. File "CANCEL". This file is created by VOConsole, and tells the script that the CANCEL button has been clicked, and that the script should therefore end without placing the order. Just before it ends, the script deletes the file.

Hence NONE of these files should exist after either EXECUTE or CANCEL has been clicked. Please delete ALL of these files manually, if necessary, to ensure that the next time you run 'VO Create New Order', it starts with a clean slate. Alas, Win7 can sometimes tell you that a file exists (it appears in Windows Explorer) when in reality it doesn't exist, and possibly vice versa; it is massively confusing and frustrating. Then exit and restart VOConsole. That's all I can suggest trying at this point. Fingers crossed for a miracle.

Anyway, let's start with that, and go one step at a time. But I'm afraid that I will quickly run out of ideas, short of reinstalling MT4 on your XP VM, and then reinstalling VO, i.e. starting completely from scratch.

David
Attached File(s)
File Type: zip VOsetup v3-03 beta, trial version (MT4 build 427).zip   1.5 MB | 461 downloads
File Type: zip VOsetup v3-04 beta, trial version (MT4 build 427).zip   1.5 MB | 398 downloads
File Type: zip VOsetup v3-05 beta, trial version (MT4 build 427).zip   1.5 MB | 522 downloads
  • #844
  • Feb 6, 2013 3:54am Feb 6, 2013 3:54am
OK, it's now working. I re-installed 3.0.5 after downgrading to 3.0.3.

For purely academic and anally retentive reasons, some replies:

 

  1. it wasn't just Win 7 - same symptoms when I transferred the whole MT4 instance to Win XP VM
  2. I had already downgraded to 3.0.3 and that worked (see my post). I should have thought of re-upgrading
  3. thanks for completing my collection of VO-Pro versions. I was missing 3.0.4 :-)

  • #845
  • Feb 6, 2013 4:11am Feb 6, 2013 4:11am
Quoting idempotent
OK, it's now working. I re-installed 3.0.5 after downgrading to 3.0.3.

For purely academic and anally retentive reasons, some replies:

 

  1. it wasn't just Win 7 - same symptoms when I transferred the whole MT4 instance to Win XP VM
  2. I had already downgraded to 3.0.3 and that worked (see my post). I should have thought of re-upgrading
  3. thanks for completing my collection of VO-Pro versions. I was missing 3.0.4 :-)

I'm very relieved to hear that it's working once again.
  • #846
  • Feb 6, 2013 8:13am Feb 6, 2013 8:13am
By that, I really meant to say, my apologies for the false alarm. There certainly was a fault there, but the reinstall of 3.0.5 did fix it, and I just didn't think of doing that, after reinstalling 3.0.3.
  • #847
  • Feb 7, 2013 5:24am Feb 7, 2013 5:24am
So it did it again. However, I restarted both MT4 and VO-Pro, and the problem went away. To be honest, I was copying a few files into and out of the experts\files directory, so that probably triggered it.

So, for future reference, a restart of one or both of MT4 and VO-Pro may help others.
  • #848
  • Feb 7, 2013 9:46am Feb 7, 2013 9:46am
Quoting idempotent
So it did it again. However, I restarted both MT4 and VO-Pro, and the problem went away. To be honest, I was copying a few files into and out of the expertsfiles directory, so that probably triggered it.

So, for future reference, a restart of one or both of MT4 and VO-Pro may help others.
Many thanks for the info.
  • #849
  • Feb 20, 2013 12:23pm Feb 20, 2013 12:23pm
Hi,
I'm sorry to heard the VO-PRO is no longer available.
I am a client and using it for 18 month for now, on Win7 with GoMarkets without any kind of problems.
I hope, if I need I'll be able to buy a second license.
  • #850
  • Feb 21, 2013 3:36am Feb 21, 2013 3:36am
Quoting cristi01
Hi,
I'm sorry to heard the VO-PRO is no longer available.
I am a client and using it for 18 month for now, on Win7 with GoMarkets without any kind of problems.
I hope, if I need I'll be able to buy a second license.
Hi,

Subsequent licenses are FREE to all existing users. The idea is that you pay for VO only once, after which it's valid for a lifetime (or until MT4 is no longer available). If you want to register new accounts or computers, just send me an e-mail.

I'm no longer seeking any new clients, however. There have been too many technical problems, that I don't have the resources to troubleshoot.

David
  • #851
  • Mar 5, 2013 10:14pm Mar 5, 2013 10:14pm
I'm looking for broker that I can run VO pro on without problems with either the broker or the software interface between the two.
I have been with Pepperstone and have been 'upgraded' to there 'edge' mt4 which is what all accounts with Pepperstone are going to have to use. The upshot is that VO pro and edge don't play well together and as I want to keep VO Pro I need to fine another home.
I need a good ECN Mt4 broker that allows trades going in both directions. (I believe thats all US brokers out of the question).
Any recommendations
  • #852
  • Mar 7, 2013 2:33am Mar 7, 2013 2:33am
Hi David, sorry to see that VO Pro didn't go as well as I thought it would...I can't live without it now. I run Vista 32 bit on MB Trading's version of MT4 and have never had any problems...for what it's worth.

I have a question for you or anyone else with better coding skills than me: Is it possible, using TM, to simulate "Stop Limit" orders in MT4? MT4 is limited to Stop orders (technically "Stop Market" orders) and Limit orders, but no "Stop Limit"...and I've been unable to find an EA that does this either.

As an example, say I want to sell AUDUSD below the market after it breaks the previous low (see chart attached)...BUT, I don't want to just sell the break, I want a bit of "confirmation", so I want it to break out by "X" pips (Trigger line), then place a Sell Limit order back at the previous low (Entry line). I also don't want to sit around staring at my computer waiting for the break to happen so I can manually place a Limit order. Is it possible to use a "Trigger Line" on the chart that, once touched, will send a Limit order at a specified price?

Can this be done with Trade Manager? Or for that matter, does anyone know of an EA that can do this?

Thanks,
Jack
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  • #853
  • Mar 7, 2013 10:25am Mar 7, 2013 10:25am
Quoting jdwbryan
Hi David, sorry to see that VO Pro didn't go as well as I thought it would...I can't live without it now. I run Vista 32 bit on MB Trading's version of MT4 and have never had any problems...for what it's worth.

I have a question for you or anyone else with better coding skills than me: Is it possible, using TM, to simulate "Stop Limit" orders in MT4? MT4 is limited to Stop orders (technically "Stop Market" orders) and Limit orders, but no "Stop Limit"...and I've been unable to find an EA that does this either.

As an example, say I want...
Hi Jack,

I'm sorry, nut it's not possible for TM to create new orders. I'd planned to include this capability (along with many others) in a future release of TM, but I got feedback saying that TM was already too complex to use; and then I ran into the problems I described in recent posts (starting with #832).

Regards,
David
  • #854
  • Edited 6:15pm Mar 7, 2013 10:43am | Edited 6:15pm
Quoting fence
I'm looking for broker that I can run VO pro on without problems with either the broker or the software interface between the two.
I have been with Pepperstone and have been 'upgraded' to there 'edge' mt4 which is what all accounts with Pepperstone are going to have to use. The upshot is that VO pro and edge don't play well together and as I want to keep VO Pro I need to fine another home.
I need a good ECN Mt4 broker that allows trades going in both directions. (I believe thats all US brokers out of the question).
Any recommendations
Hi,

Thanks for the heads-up. I've replied to your e-mails.

David
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@everybody:
VERY IMPORTANT NOTE

I've attempted to run VO-Pro on MT4 build 479 (br0ker Pepperstone), and the results are completely erratic. For example, I attempted to place a pending order, and it created a market (sell) order at the current price. I believe that MT4's new one-click ordering facilities (see screenshot) conflict with VO-Pro's operation (and possibly other EAs also).

If you upgrade MT4 to the latest build(s), then I would advise testing VO-Pro thoroughly on a demo account, and satisfy yourself that it behaves exactly as you would expect it to, before attempting to place any real money trades.

VO-Pro is a complex piece of software. I have no way of anticipating modifications that MetaQuotes will make to MT4, or any br0ker-specific add-ons; or how these will conflict with VO-Pro's operation. I am very sorry, but there is nothing that I can do about it. I am no longer promoting or selling VO-Pro. However, I will continue to support existing users as best as I can.

David
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[EDIT]
Here are some other products you might like to try. I can't personally recommend any, as I haven't tested or purchased them.

1. Sangmane's MT4 order plugin
Cost: FREE
Sangmane is an excellent programmer who has made a huge and generous contribution to Forex Factory over the years.

2. Luktom visual order editor
Cost: FREE

3. Stealth TradeManager EA for MT4 by fxtr51
Cost: FREE
fxtr51 has also made a big contribution to Forex Factory. See the link for a feature list

4. Chart Ninja by Trading Software Solutions
Cost: 199 euros; 30 day money back offer
Judging by the product feature list, this probably comes close to the functionality of the order entry module offered by VO-Pro.

5. FX Synergy by Pecunia Systems
Cost: $329 one time purchase or $29 monthly; 30 day money back offer
This looks like a comprehensive trade manager (as opposed to offering visual order entry)

6. MYFX
Cost: $85 quarterly or $249 annually; free trial version for demo MT4 accounts
Offers trade management and one-click order entry; has been around for more than 3 years and has a good reputation

7. Visual Trading Console (Multi Terminal) & Trade Manager for Metatrader
Cost: 75 USD for 1 PC; 99 USD for 2 PCs
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  • #855
  • Mar 13, 2013 9:27am Mar 13, 2013 9:27am
David,

Thanks for the reply...I suspected as much, but thought I'd ask. I still can't fathom why so many people complain that VO Pro is too complex...for 98% of the things traders should need to do, VO Pro does them easy as pie.

Also, just FYI...I updated my version of MT4 (MB Trading) and have since used VO Pro to enter around a dozen pending orders (both limits and stops) without noticing any strange behavior...works fine as it always has for me.

Jack
  • #856
  • Mar 14, 2013 2:25am Mar 14, 2013 2:25am
Quoting jdwbryan
David,

Thanks for the reply...I suspected as much, but thought I'd ask. I still can't fathom why so many people complain that VO Pro is too complex...for 98% of the things traders should need to do, VO Pro does them easy as pie.

Also, just FYI...I updated my version of MT4 (MB Trading) and have since used VO Pro to enter around a dozen pending orders (both limits and stops) without noticing any strange behavior...works fine as it always has for me.

Jack
Jack,

Many thanks for your kind comments. I guess everybody thinks differently; when I see some of the questions asked on the forums about MT4, it seems that some folk find MT4 too complex. As a programmer, most computer related things seem logical to me, and perhaps I take that for granted.

Anyway, I'm very glad to hear that VO continues to work well for you.

Best wishes, and good trading!
David
  • #857
  • Mar 17, 2013 11:27am Mar 17, 2013 11:27am
I haven't personally experienced any of the Windows Vista/7 problems and I'm not exactly sure what the problems are. Honestly since I haven't had any of the problems I haven't payed close attention to those posts. I hope this post isn't a repeat of another post.

I came across this article and thought it might be helpful. "How to run Metatrader on Windows 7 or Vista"

http://4xtrader.net/how-to-run-metat...ws-7-or-vista/

I found it by googling "user account control and metatrader 4". It lists some of the problems UAC can cause and some options to correct the problem.

 

  1. Metatrader does not update to the latest version
  2. Charts / indicators / experts will not save when Metatrader restarts.
  3. It can’t save history to run back testing.
  4. Expert advisors won’t run.
  5. It can’t open a demo account.
  6. Username and password doesn’t get saved on restart.
  7. User can’t save files on Expert folder.

Hope this is useful and not a repeat. VO-Pro is to valuable to fade away.

  • #858
  • Mar 17, 2013 1:36pm Mar 17, 2013 1:36pm
Quoting Pablo55
I haven't personally experienced any of the Windows Vista/7 problems and I'm not exactly sure what the problems are. Honestly since I haven't had any of the problems I haven't payed close attention to those posts. I hope this post isn't a repeat of another post.

I came across this article and thought it might be helpful. "How to run Metatrader on Windows 7 or Vista"

http://4xtrader.net/how-to-run-metat...ws-7-or-vista/

I found it by googling "user account control and metatrader 4". It lists some of the problems UAC...
Hi Pablo,

Many thanks for posting, and your kind words.

The link you posted is the same one that I send out in all of my "How to install VO-Pro" and "How to install your registration file" e-mails.

Sadly, the problems that have been reported appear to be worse than UAC issues. Things like: the entry/SL/TP lines disappearing without an order being placed; the lines flashing on and off; the lines remaining on the screen even after the green tickmark button has been clicked; buy orders mysteriously becoming sell orders; MT4 freezing; VO-Pro's modify function apparently deleting the stoplosses of existing orders; and others. These are occurring even if MT4/VO-Pro are installed somewhere other than under the Program Files folder. I haven't been able to reproduce these problems on my Win XP computer, hence I can't attempt to troubleshoot them. Hence I'm effectively helpless when it comes to supporting my own product.

Now it seems that MT4 br0kers are bundling other functions like one-click ordering as part of MT4, whose presence (even if they're not being used) further conflicts with VO-Pro.

So yes, I'm afraid VO-Pro will fade away. I'm no longer promoting or selling it.

David
  • #859
  • Mar 17, 2013 4:38pm Mar 17, 2013 4:38pm
I prefer to download metatrader from the www.metatrader4.com website because I don't use all the add-ons brokers include in their proprietary versions of metatrader. Is anyone out there running the generic version of metatrader on Windows Vista/7 and still having any of the above issues?
  • #860
  • Mar 17, 2013 5:48pm Mar 17, 2013 5:48pm
Hi Pablo,
But how can be set the "generic" metatrader, downloaded from metatrader4.com, to work with specific broker ?
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