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  • #861
  • Jan 30, 2013 2:08am Jan 30, 2013 2:08am
Quoting Alpari UK
Hi 4Xfactor,

There seems to be some confusion here. Re-quotes have been around ever since markets were allowed to float and are a natural consequence of that. If you are trading with the momentum of the market, and therefore by definition in the direction of least liquidity, then re-quotes are an inescapable fact of life that everyone has to deal with, from the busiest InterBank desks to the smallest retail trader. The only current alternatives are Direct Market Access Accounts (MT4 Pro...
Well I must admit Alex, I am confused. Thanks again for the information. Do you as an organisation keep statistics related to this phenomenon, requotes, with respect to each of the platforms you offer?


Regards,
  • #862
  • Jan 30, 2013 2:37am Jan 30, 2013 2:37am
Hi there,

I would like to clarify little bit of re-quoting issue. Have been told already to many users who had the same problems.

So, i attached to screens of two brokers, one is Alpari_UK. You will see difference between, when Alpari_UK offer you to set up max slip of price when others just gives you actual price and you even dont know that you got price 2-3 pips away from where you press the button to buy/sell.
There for i think that Alpari_UK gives you good option to chose what will be your max price you are ready to pay in a case of high volatility.
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  • #863
  • Jan 30, 2013 2:46am Jan 30, 2013 2:46am
Hi 4Xfactor,

Quoting 4Xfactor
Well I must admit Alex, I am confused. Thanks again for the information. Do you as an organisation keep statistics related to this phenomenon, requotes, with respect to each of the platforms you offer?
I'm not aware of any.

Having said that, re-quotes are dependent on your trading style. If you are buying in a rising market, that is buying when everyone else is trying to buy, or selling in a falling market, you will regrettably get re-quotes.

Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #864
  • Jan 30, 2013 2:46am Jan 30, 2013 2:46am
Quoting dzero
Hi there,

I would like to clarify little bit of re-quoting issue. Have been told already to many users who had the same problems.

So, i attached to screens of two brokers, one is Alpari_UK. You will see difference between, when Alpari_UK offer you to set up max slip of price when others just gives you actual price and you even dont know that you got price 2-3 pips away from where you press the button to buy/sell.
There for i think that Alpari_UK gives you good option to chose what will be your max price you are ready to pay in a case of...
Thanks dzero!

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #865
  • Jan 30, 2013 2:52am Jan 30, 2013 2:52am
Quoting Alpari UK
Hi 4Xfactor,

I'm not aware of any.

Having said that, re-quotes are dependent on your trading style. If you are buying in a rising market, that is buying when everyone else is trying to buy, or selling in a falling market, you will regrettably get more re-quotes.

Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
Alex,


It would be a very simple process for your organisation to extract the requote information, whatever the traders trading style - perhaps you should make an inquiry or two.

For example you say your ECN offering does not suffer from such behavior, so this must be important to you.

Perhaps this will become a metric against which brokers will be evaluated in the future, if it has any real meaning or value

It would sure put this confusing argument to bed

Regards
  • #866
  • Edited 3:46am Jan 30, 2013 3:27am | Edited 3:46am
Hi 4Xfactor,

Thank you for your thoughts.

Quoting 4Xfactor
you say your ECN offering does not suffer from such behavior, so this must be important to you.
This is important to traders. The reason why there are no re-quotes on a Direct Market Access account is because the execution policy is different.

There is no way to factor out human influence on a market that's run by humans. If you trade in the direction of least liquidity, for example sell when everyone else is trying to sell, re-quotes are inevitable.

Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #867
  • Jan 30, 2013 6:31am Jan 30, 2013 6:31am
You offer ECN on MT5 platform only?

Can I run MT5 and MT4, not necessarily concurrently, on the same computer without any problems?

I will also be honest with you here Alex, now that I've read the whole thread, and several others, this requote business seems to be a major, long standing problem with Alpari. Other very reputable brokers do not seem to have as many, and some brokers have almost zero requotes over lengthy periods. There can be no smoke with out fire, and when long standing members of FF, highly gifted traders at that, start ringing alarm bells, it raises my curiosity.

Anyway, I will continue my due diligence for now

Without wishing to flog a dead cat ... that is.


Regards,





Quoting Alpari UK
Hi 4Xfactor,

Thank you for your thoughts.



This is important to traders. The reason why there are no re-quotes on a Direct Market Access account is because the execution policy is different.

There is no way to factor out human influence on a market that's run by humans. If you trade in the direction of least liquidity, for example sell when everyone else is trying to sell, re-quotes are inevitable.

Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
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  • #868
  • Edited 10:44am Jan 30, 2013 10:20am | Edited 10:44am
Alex,

Kindly clarify something for me (and forgive me if this is a naive question).

If you can provide zero requotes on the ECN platform (which is what the ECN page specification states) , why can't you do it on all platforms including Classic and Spread?

Thanks


Quoting Alpari UK
Hi 4Xfactor,

Thank you for your thoughts.



This is important to traders. The reason why there are no re-quotes on a Direct Market Access account is because the execution policy is different.

There is no way to factor out human influence on a market that's run by humans. If you trade in the direction of least liquidity, for example sell when everyone else is trying to sell, re-quotes are inevitable.

Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
[url="http://www.alpari.co.uk"]Alpari...
  • #869
  • Jan 30, 2013 11:20am Jan 30, 2013 11:20am
Alex do u have a trader copier programme that can link to any of the platforms
  • #870
  • Jan 31, 2013 1:37am Jan 31, 2013 1:37am
Hi remi05,

Quoting remi05
Alex do u have a trader copier programme that can link to any of the platforms
Great question.

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Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #871
  • Jan 31, 2013 1:56am Jan 31, 2013 1:56am
Hi 4Xfactor,
Quoting 4Xfactor
If you can provide zero requotes on the ECN platform (which is what the ECN page specification states) , why can't you do it on all platforms including Classic and Spread?
This has already been answered.
Quoting Alpari UK
As an experienced trader, I'm sure you understand that re-quotes have been around ever since markets were allowed to float and are a natural consequence of that. If you are trading with the momentum of the market, and therefore by definition in the direction of least liquidity, then re-quotes are an inescapable fact of life that everyone has to deal with, from the busiest InterBank desks to the smallest retail trader. The only current alternatives are Direct Market Access Accounts MT4 Pro/MT5 ECN) in which orders are sent on a Fill or Kill basis where although you can avoid re-quotes, the risk is not getting a trade in (or out) at your preferred price at all.
Please see above.


Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
  • #872
  • Jan 31, 2013 3:41am Jan 31, 2013 3:41am
Quoting Alpari UK
Hi 4Xfactor,


This has already been answered.


Please see above.


Alex

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Alexander Chadwick
Alpari (UK) Representative
Ok, thanks, perhaps I'll just move to Futures, where all these problems and many more associated with Spot, dissapear
  • #873
  • Feb 1, 2013 7:23am Feb 1, 2013 7:23am
Hello everyone,

Last few days i notice disconnects on my MT5 terminal, sometimes are for a few seconds sometimes more but are quite frequent...
Its not an internet problem because MT4 running alongside works perfectly. It looks like a server problem to me.Also yesterday a stop loss on a position
did not trigger but chating with support they said thats a problem with the mt5 platform and i should not worry about.
I am quite happy with the support so far.

Thanks

Giannis
  • #874
  • Feb 1, 2013 8:17am Feb 1, 2013 8:17am
The same here- SL did not trigger. My SL was at 1.36 and now i can see that they closed my position at 1.3650-wow
They have a good reputation and i am sure they will fix it.

Quoting gmavridakis
Hello everyone,

Last few days i notice disconnects on my MT5 terminal, sometimes are for a few seconds sometimes more but are quite frequent...
Its not an internet problem because MT4 running alongside works perfectly. It looks like a server problem to me.Also yesterday a stop loss on a position
did not trigger but chating with support they said thats a problem with the mt5 platform and i should not worry about.
I am quite happy with the support so far.

Thanks

Giannis
  • #875
  • Feb 1, 2013 11:50am Feb 1, 2013 11:50am
Problem solved.I got my money back. I am really happy with Alpari. Excellent support, low spreads and no problems with withdraws.
Keep up the good work!
  • #876
  • Feb 1, 2013 11:51am Feb 1, 2013 11:51am
Me too , great service at alpari.uk
thanks guys!

Giannis
  • #877
  • Feb 1, 2013 12:13pm Feb 1, 2013 12:13pm
Yes, Alpari are the bestest in the whole wide world!

And I don't even work for them
  • #878
  • Edited Feb 3, 2013 4:16am Feb 2, 2013 10:57am | Edited Feb 3, 2013 4:16am
Can anyone tell me why my indicators give different readings on different brokers. As far as I can see, the only obvious difference is the broker time.

I'm using the FXI Pivots and Symphonie trader indicators.

I tested using Alpari UK and ThinkForex MT4.
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  • #879
  • Feb 3, 2013 9:07am Feb 3, 2013 9:07am
different spreads, give different close prices sometimes, so different indicator data
  • #880
  • Feb 4, 2013 8:12am Feb 4, 2013 8:12am
Hi,
I have a question.
Does the micro account have bigger spreads than the stnadard... or what is the disadvantage over the normal.

I want to deposit 1000$, and be able to trade 0.01 lots, but not sure of spreads.

Thanks.
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