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  • #821
  • Nov 18, 2012 4:48am Nov 18, 2012 4:48am
Quoting Ryan.fx
Targeting the limited MT4 windows clients is unlikely to be profitable. It is not a common apps such as Whatsapp that even a 10years old know how to use. I suggest you do not waste time on this VO-Pro anymore. The sale will never pick up. Develop an Android/Windows 8 Tablet/Iphone version, where the potential is on mobile platform. People are replacing their PC/Laptops with tablets and smart phone.
Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't have the tools needed to create apps for Android or iPhone, unless a Windows-based OS (and MT4) is available for these platforms. VO-Pro will run on any platform whose OS is 100% compatible with Windows XP.

If VO-Pro dies, then so be it. Sales have been disappointing, forcing me to look elsewhere for income. However, it goes without saying that I'll continue to support existing clients, if they want to register new accounts or computers. But there will be no new versions, and no more functions or features added. And no MT5 version.

David
  • #822
  • Nov 21, 2012 4:53pm Nov 21, 2012 4:53pm
Quoting hanover
Thanks for your suggestion, but I don't have the tools needed to create apps for Android or iPhone, unless a Windows-based OS (and MT4) is available for these platforms. VO-Pro will run on any platform whose OS is 100% compatible with Windows XP.

If VO-Pro dies, then so be it. Sales have been disappointing, forcing me to look elsewhere for income. However, it goes without saying that I'll continue to support existing clients, if they want to register new accounts or computers. But there will be no new versions, and no more functions or features...
Sorry to hear that David. I'd like to thank you for making an excellent product, even though it didn't achieve what you wanted.

Best wishes,

Alex
  • #823
  • Nov 26, 2012 9:42am Nov 26, 2012 9:42am
David,

i know it is just a simple thing but I just placed a Pending Order and then created 3 rules for Trade management.

Then I wrote another rule that said if Price reaches a certain point then Delete the PO and delete all the rules I wrote. Worked wonderfully.

Usually I have to go and clean up POs once I decide that they are no longer valid. But with TM I can let the rules take care of that for me as well.

Once again..great work.
  • #824
  • Nov 26, 2012 11:15am Nov 26, 2012 11:15am
@idempotent, @kosai, @flyer415: many thanks for your recent comments.
  • #825
  • Dec 13, 2012 1:30pm Dec 13, 2012 1:30pm
This is in reply to a question I received about creating your own presets for buy and sell pending orders, where the TP and SL are N pips above/below the entry.

Here's how you do it, for a pending BUY order (with a 10 pip SL, and a 10 pip TP):

1. In VOConsole, click the RESET button (orange circular arrow).

2. Set the entries in the 'Create New Order' panel as shown in the attached screenshot.
These have been set to SL = 10 pips below entry; TP = 10 pips above entry; Entry = mouse cursor drop point **
You can use the wizards ('?' buttons) to create each of these entries. Select from the menu of options as shown in the window at the right of the screenshot. The wizard will paste the correct 'hieroglyphics' back into the entry field in VOConsole's main window. [NOTE: the entry+N and entry–N options were added in VO-Pro v3.05].

3. Set any other parameters (e.g. Trade Risk; line colors; Trade comment etc) however you wish. You may need to expand to VOConsole's full window to access some of these settings.

4. Click in any unused (empty) slot in the 'Preset buttons' area, and type a suitable name for your preset (I named it 'my pending buy', as highlighted in the screenshot). Then click the Save button to save the preset, and respond Yes to the 'Are you sure?' popup.

Then, whenever you want to instantly recall your preset, either select it from the dropdown window, or click its assigned button (button #7 in the screenshot example). For more info on presets, see pages 66-71 of the VO-Pro user guide.

Creating the pending sell works in the same way, except (obviously) the SL is 10 pips above entry, and the TP 10 pips below entry.

[**NOTE: The FIX option can NOT be used to set the polarity (buy or sell) of the order. See here, or pages 39-41 of the VO-Pro user guide, for more info.]

David
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  • #826
  • Dec 25, 2012 6:00pm Dec 25, 2012 6:00pm
Hi David,

i've read many posts in this thread but haven't found what i was looking for.
Is it possible to create time based rules? Say that a rule is only active for a specified time? Ex. from 01:00 o'clock till 05:00 o'clock?

thx in advance
hila
  • #827
  • Dec 25, 2012 8:39pm Dec 25, 2012 8:39pm
Quoting hilavoku
Hi David,

i've read many posts in this thread but haven't found what i was looking for.
Is it possible to create time based rules? Say that a rule is only active for a specified time? Ex. from 01:00 o'clock till 05:00 o'clock?

thx in advance
hila
Hila,

Thanks for taking the time to evaluate VO-Pro.

I am sorry, but time based rules are not possible.

David
  • #828
  • Dec 26, 2012 4:07pm Dec 26, 2012 4:07pm
Thats a shame
Keep up your excellent product!!!

greetz
hila
  • #829
  • Dec 31, 2012 1:38am Dec 31, 2012 1:38am
Quoting hilavoku
Thats a shame
Keep up your excellent product!!!

greetz
hila

+1

Hope it will survive.


Happy New Year !
  • #830
  • Edited 5:59pm Jan 2, 2013 12:26pm | Edited 5:59pm
@hilavoku, @tomlee

Many thanks for your kind comments.

Unfortunately, some weird problems have been reported running VO-Pro on certain Win7 configurations, and also some VPSs. Because I run Win XP only, I'm unable to troubleshoot these problems.

Hence I'm not adding any more features to an already complex product, nor am I actively promoting it any more.

Nonetheless, existing buyers may rest assured that I'll continue to provide lifetime support; and the product is still available for purchase, for anybody who wants it. However, I strongly recommend that prospective buyers test VO-Pro thoroughly on every possible Br0ker MT4/Windows/firewall combination on which they plan to run it, and satisfy themselves that it performs as they would expect it to, and also that it offers them value for their money, before they make any decision about buying it.

I won't be reducing the price (US$199), because that would be unfair to all those who purchased VO-Pro at the full price.

Best wishes for 2013 to everybody.

David
  • #831
  • Jan 3, 2013 11:35pm Jan 3, 2013 11:35pm
Hello David, I have been using VO pro manuallly for a while now and I just love it. I am now wanting to use the trade minder part of it but really want to use percentages rather than pips or $ amounts.
For example. I enter a trade with a risk of 1% SL per trade, the take profit is 2:1. Once the trade is 75% on the way to TP I want the SL to go to BE. Every trade has a different dollar and pip amount but the percentage rules stays the same.
Do you by any chance plan to add the option of using a percentage option.
  • #832
  • Jan 4, 2013 12:51am Jan 4, 2013 12:51am
Quoting fence
Hello David, I have been using VO pro manuallly for a while now and I just love it. I am now wanting to use the trade minder part of it but really want to use percentages rather than pips or $ amounts.
For example. I enter a trade with a risk of 1% SL per trade, the take profit is 2:1. Once the trade is 75% on the way to TP I want the SL to go to BE. Every trade has a different dollar and pip amount but the percentage rules stays the same.
Do you by any chance plan to add the option of using a percentage option.
Hi,

Thank you for your interest in VO-Pro, and your kind comments.

Sadly, there will be no further enhancements to the product. Some reasons:
1. Folk have complained that it's already too complex.
2. Weird problems have been reported on some Win7 configurations, that I can't reproduce or troubleshoot on my Win XP computer.
3. Interest in VO-Pro has fallen away dramatically, and I can't cost justify spending a lot of time maintaining a product that doesn't pay my day-to-day bills.

I will continue to support existing clients, as explained in post #830.

David
  • #833
  • Jan 4, 2013 5:47am Jan 4, 2013 5:47am
For God's sake man do some marketing, just a squeeze page, affiliate and you'll be rolling!
It's still a unique product!
Good luck
  • #834
  • Jan 4, 2013 12:27pm Jan 4, 2013 12:27pm
OK David, fair enough. Its a real pitty you aren't getting the traction this deserves. Getting along side brokers and chargeing a license fee etc does sound like a good way to go, but I guess you have thought of that.
All the best.
  • #835
  • Jan 4, 2013 1:43pm Jan 4, 2013 1:43pm
The biggest headache is the alleged Win7 problems that I can't troubleshoot. My aim has always been to provide a quality product, with good support. But attempting to increase the user base will merely multiply the number of problems that I get asked to fix. At $499 per sale it might be worth my time and effort, but at $199 it's not.

I'm not discouraged, as I'm currently writing a couple of EAs that I believe have every chance of being handsomely profitable. It's a case of spending time on projects that have the best potential for income, and VO-Pro no longer fits into that category. Hence I must move on.

My thanks to all those who have purchased the product, and/or supported my efforts. I hope that you continue to find it useful.
  • #836
  • Jan 10, 2013 9:06am Jan 10, 2013 9:06am
David, I just sent you an email. I would like to purchase VO Pro.
  • #837
  • Jan 15, 2013 7:46am Jan 15, 2013 7:46am
Hi David

I have already purchased VO-Pro and I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. All I need to know is will VO-Pro work on Windows 8, if it doesn't then I may well opt for Windows 7, as I don't think I can go back to trading without it. It's real pity its not selling as well as you hoped, as it really is a MT4 add on must, as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks

Trekker
  • #838
  • Jan 15, 2013 9:05am Jan 15, 2013 9:05am
Quoting Trekker
Hi David

I have already purchased VO-Pro and I'm thinking of buying a new laptop. All I need to know is will VO-Pro work on Windows 8, if it doesn't then I may well opt for Windows 7, as I don't think I can go back to trading without it. It's real pity its not selling as well as you hoped, as it really is a MT4 add on must, as far as I'm concerned.

Thanks

Trekker
Trekker,

I am really sorry. The answer is that I don't know whether it will run on either Win7 or Win8. All I know is that it runs correctly on Win XP, and (from the feedback I've received) on some Win7 computers. I don't know what is causing the problem on other Win7s. There are also problems with some VPSs.

If I'd known that there would be a problem with future Windows versions, I would never have attempted to sell the product. I assumed that any software application that ran on Win XP would run on other Windows versions, but apparently this isn't the case. I have stopped promoting VO-Pro for this reason (see my comments in posts #830, #832, #835).

Do you have a friend who is running Win7 or Win8? You could try running installing and running the VO trial version. It might give you an idea. But there are no guarantees, as it seems to run OK on some computers but not others, and I don't know why.

Open question: Can anybody else help us out here? Is anybody running VO successfully on Win8?

Thanks,
David
  • #839
  • Jan 15, 2013 9:09am Jan 15, 2013 9:09am
Quoting hanover
Trekker,

I am really sorry. The answer is that I don't know whether it will run on either Win7 or Win8. All I know is that it runs correctly on Win XP, and (from the feedback I've received) on some Win7 computers. I don't know what is causing the problem on other Win7s. There are also problems with some VPSs.

If I'd known that there would be a problem with future Windows versions, I would never have attempted to sell the product. I assumed that any software application that ran on Win XP would run on other Windows versions, but apparently...
Just my 2 cents.

May the problem be with permissions ?
I think normally terminals may be installed with Administrative user, but are run with a normal user.
VO-Pro is an EA that is running in the context of that normal user and may be refused to write to experts/files directories.

To overcome this situations I installed my MT's in c:\bin.... and changed ownership for that directory to me "Normal User" and to all subdirectories.

Just a thought..

Diogo
  • #840
  • Jan 16, 2013 4:20am Jan 16, 2013 4:20am
Quoting diogo
Just my 2 cents.

May the problem be with permissions ?
I think normally terminals may be installed with Administrative user, but are run with a normal user.
VO-Pro is an EA that is running in the context of that normal user and may be refused to write to experts/files directories.

To overcome this situations I installed my MT's in c:bin.... and changed ownership for that directory to me "Normal User" and to all subdirectories.

Just a thought..

Diogo
Hi Diogo,

Many thanks for your suggestion.

The permissions is one possible problem, and it can be solved in the manner that you described. This link also provides similar suggestions.

However, there also seems to be a problem with the data transfer between the VO scripts and VOConsole. It occurs on some Win7 computers, and some VPSs, but not others. It may have something to do with other applications that may be running, e.g. Java, virus checkers, firewalls, other items running (that show in the systray). Or, even more likely, it may be something like this:

MT4 EAs can operate on a price tick basis, i.e. whenever a new price quote is received, the program logic gets executed. Or the program logic can be executed by creating a loop that simply cycles continuously until the script is shut down. In order to get the lines/text to move smoothly on the price chart in the order placement scripts, I had to use the latter method, because frequently several seconds elapse between price ticks. This incessant looping causes a high CPU overhead, and I included a user-selectable option to create a delay during the loop, to reduce the load on CPU. Nonetheless, MT4 seems to somehow get lost during this looping process; on some Win7 computers it apparently runs too fast and the script gets completely lost, or out of control, and locks MT4 up. For some reason, this doesn't seem to happen with Win XP.

Anyway, I am getting back into trading this year. I need a second income, as the recession has depleted my investment portfolio. I had high hopes for VO-Pro but I don't know how to solve these problems without a major overhaul of what has grown into a complex, feature-rich application. When the sales plummeted, I decided it wasn't worth my time and effort to perform this overhaul. And in any case, I like the way the lines and text scroll smoothly, and I'm reluctant to compromise on this feature.

I am no longer actively promoting VO-Pro, but it is still available for sale. If I may be permitted a small boast, I believe that conceptually, it is (still) a great product. However, I strongly recommend that any prospective buyer runs the trial version, and ensures that it runs without problems, before deciding to buy. I want all buyers to be happy with their purchase.

Somebody told me that it's possible to run Win XP as a virtual machine within Win7 (maybe it's possible only with 64-bit Win7, but I'm not sure). To anybody who's experiencing problems, this may be worth a try. But please don't ask me how to set up a VM; I'm an ex-mainframe/mini programmer who finds Windows thoroughly user-unfriendly. Bring back the good old DOS command line, I say. LOL.

Best wishes for 2013, and thanks again for your help.

David
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