The Really Useless Thread

HI,

Sorry to hear this, mate



Whatever you decide, it is your decision, ..

finally comes down to the TIME as rarest human commodity , - how much TIME you invest and what is THE return on time invested in your trading, scalping, speculating.. ect..
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however a few things I want to tell you..


first: It's only a money, mate,, don't be stressed too much

and

second: DON'T you ever let this setback HUNT you down in your life..

You are stronger then this..

Cheers..

P

Once bitten, Twice Shy.

I feel your pain brother, been here a few times before, just too fucking stubborn to pack it in.

A great friend and mentor told me that scared money doesn't trade and he is absolutely correct. After taking a hit, a good one, every time you step back into the pool, it feels a little colder.

Nobody can tell you how to or if you should get back into the game, that is only something you can decide. Take the time, a few steps back, keep the cash where it is safe for now and if you decide to throw down the gauntlet and giver one more whirl, take this journey in baby steps.

I have wiped out several accounts and it's only with persistence and perseverance enough to piss a hole in a rock, that has allowed me to keep on keeping on.

Where ever you land, keep doing what you need to do until you can do what you want to do.

This end begs for a new beginning.

Best of the season to you and yours.

M

you will be missed hatch and your sense of humour i enjoyed your posts basically
because you never minced your words but whatever you do its obvious you will do it well !

although the way you worded your post '' amen '' may suggest trading became more of a burden

now the weight has been lifted giving some time and space to reflect you might return, whatever
you decide we all know your'll compete with the v best

just watched this short clip - guinness time laters

good luck Mr. Hatch..

its brutal out there.

darimik

wow, some pretty cool stuff in the ds order flow forum, but where to start?

jawn, rolland, some advice please...

Might find this interesting

Sep 14, 2012 post QE3, E/U printed 1.3172 and USD Index was 78.60.
Dec 14, 2012 post QE4, E/U printed 1.3172 and USD Index was 79.50.

Different brokers/services might print 1 or 2 pips off

Yes Ken A, i noticed it, Japan buying both currencies prob causing this

Probably GBP, SEK, CHF and CAD too Less on the CAD due to S&P Downgrade the banks on Friday.

you WILL be missed bro, do try to pop in sometime if you get time
agree with alot of others but Magix's magical words have a lot of weight like always
best of luck

by which i mean, market micro-structure, reading order-flow, reading sentiment, etc...

I'd say if you're going to go that route his suggestion is to write out your interpretation of sentiment and expectations every day, along with the outcome. Also draw out levels of liquidity and watch them being used, and make observations that you can form into a repeatable system.

return of the jedi

me went to the emirates stadium a few weeks back. it was good. you mentioned it a while back

Nice one I'm not going tomorrow night but I'll be down the pub screaming and shouting the next five games are vital to getting some kind of a result this season

use your seatbelt.. for safety reasons..

good evening,

closed UJ longs @ 84.20, waiting for some retrace
UJ D1:

when did we last see that kinda gap on gj your'll be looking for blood ya bustard

Hutchinson,

Truly gutted to see the news. However, in bowing out where you are (hopefully temporarily), my respect for you grows. A lot of people go too far and leave completely empty handed. Once the account goes (say...) sub $1000...they start believing the spreadsheets we've all seen years ago: "Well...I had 5k. Now I have 0.75k...BUT...at x%/trade/day/week... ... I can still be up to 100k and on a motherfucking boat in < 6 months! I'm good...keep going!"

What I hope for you: I hope an immense weight has been lifted from your shoulders. Enjoy it...let it fill every fiber of your body and soul. Its a perfect time of year for it, and I hope you have some family nearby (almost certain you do...other than the good lady wife, of course) that you can just sit back and enjoy some good times with.

There is no failure here. You put your heart, soul and MIND into this...and what I find so upsetting about it is...you're there! You have it! Aside from essential capital...AND...the one thing we're ALL one step away from at any moment (more in a second).


What I hope for everyone else (particularly people with little experience a.k.a: Noobs..."Green Skins" (<--that's a term I (coined, but is catching on...not very "politically correct" though, it seems. ) use in another industry I've worked in for a long time): I hope to jaysus you know how clever a man Mr. Hatch is. A sharper brain...I do not believe you will find. That does not mean that if he can't make it (on this leg of the journey), no one can. It does mean you better be prepared for one hell of a fight, though. Hours upon hours. Be prepared to "un-learn" things that may be in your natural instincts...which is SOoooooooo much harder than "learning" something.

Look...I'm probably going to ramble all night in relation to this (Preview Post button absence really not helping- definitely contacting Twee about that...tomorrow at the latest). Point is...GREAT man down. I feel like I've been in the "trenches" with Mr Hatch. Fighting the bastards. Trying to come up with our own (individual...which it will always be) way of pulling a few out. I'm bummed, because maybe I didn't share enough with him of what is working for me??? ??? Two points on this post, then I'm pressing send..........actually three points...

1. My only advice to anyone: You CANNOT be under capitalized in this game. (<FULL fakking stop! Period!) There is no 10^3 --> 10^6 (<--unless it's your pension money, and you're talking years of growth.). 25k and up...USD...$$$...or the equivalent. If this is all you want to do, and where you want to pull your income from: Bare minimum...25k! BARE!!!!!!!! Anything less and you're already killing yourself through expectations.


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2. On a personal note...and it breaks my REAL heart to say...if Hatch never comes around again...I lost a friend...that I NEVER met....but also never even knew his actual name! A lot of you bastards on here...I do. We speak. I want everyone to know what a calming and balanced affect, Hatch had on this thread. When it ran away from being REALLY Useless (tongue-in cheek), and became GENUINELY Useless (dangerous)...he was always a voice of balance/reason in the thread to bring it back in line. If it went to far...often while I was "away"...he would be there is my PM's...in the most loving way...for everyone involved.

If I were ever able to turn this thread over to someone to have the "original thread-starters permissions"...hands down...it would have been Hatch. Actually think we had a few conversations in the background along those lines. Hatch...you're a beaut...and I'm going to try and contact you in private, but...

You did more for this thread than many will ever know. I already miss you...but think I did the first time I realized the sort of man I was talking to from the start. Please keep in touch...for everyone's sake!

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"Its better to burn out than to fade away." Neil Young- Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)...Rust Never Sleeps, 1979

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3. Not even going to proofread/edit. Preview button FF, or rambling BS posts you shall have.

COCK!!!!

I meant to put this one first!

Ah well....

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Physical family and friends gone...check.

Digital/on-line family/friend heading out...check.